This segment is being buzzed about on other DE boards also. It sounds awful. I feel like sending Katie a photo of my huge stomach and saying, guess who the biological mom of my daughter will be?
An egg donor is just that -- an egg donor. Not the bio mom.
I have a feeling Katie is going to get some mail from DE moms.
[ETA: Just want to make clear that I think a woman using a surrogate can be a bio mom also. "Mom" is about intention. An egg donor never was and never will be the "mom" of the resulting child.]
@brooklynesque - My PIP's and I are currently negotiating contracts for our upcoming cycle. My attorney and I did a partial review yesterday. For some reason their attorney referred to me as "Surrogate Mother". I loathe that term, my attorney is changing each one to Gestational Carrier. I use the term surrogate because it's easier, people know more what I'm talking about if I tell them I'm a surrogate than if I say I'm a GC, but I hate that surrogate means "replacement".
GSx1 - 05/13/2013 GSx2 for T&B - EDD 6/21/2015 - They're having a GIRL!
Me: 30 ~ Stage IV Endo ~ AMH .38 ~ AFC 8 AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?! Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo. Stopped BCP 4/2010. Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012. FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013 ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27. Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt) Beta 4: 8503(19dpt) Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! Team Purple G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. If you're wondering about my avatar...it's a fried pickle chip shaped like a fetus!
Watching the link and getting pissed!!! Katie said searching for parents --donors are not f'ing parents!!!! Also biological mother is really frustrating me...
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46 DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!! First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
Watching the link and getting pissed!!! Katie said searching for parents --donors are not f'ing parents!!!! Also biological mother is really frustrating me...
This exactly! How hard is it to keep saying egg donor as opposed to bio mom? Both families seemed like lovely people, so I hope Katie's ignorance doesn't cause hard feelings between them.
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Me: 30 ~ Stage IV Endo ~ AMH .38 ~ AFC 8 AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?! Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo. Stopped BCP 4/2010. Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012. FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013 ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27. Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt) Beta 4: 8503(19dpt) Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! Team Purple G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. If you're wondering about my avatar...it's a fried pickle chip shaped like a fetus!
I found it frustrating that the egg donor was referred to as the biological mother. Maybe I would have been less annoyed by it if she called her the genetic mother? Perhaps I have it wrong in my head, but I DO think that DEgg mothers have a biological part in the process. It was really heart warming to see the relationship amongst the child & her parents.
First off, I agree in many way and do not want to come across as insensitive. The terms chosen were those of the family. Jim and Janet are secure enough to know I, as, their anonymous egg donor never will pose a threat. We all are a family. We communicated for a few months before we taped this segment. Our bond was instant.
I fully understand my part as an anonymous egg donor; however I chose to make myself available to be found for several reasons: normal curiosity of family and or children and medically. I will never seek out any of the families as I believe each have the right to raise their children and determine what is best for their families.
This being said, don't let the terms ruin a beautiful thing. It may not be for everyone, but it works for us.
Here are my thoughts/reactions. I don't think the term family applies here, at least not for me. I am an egg donor as well. If a child/adult conceived as a result of my donation wanted to meet me, I would be all for it. If they were looking for "family," whoa there. That's just not the relationship I have with them. I see my role as very different from, say, someone who placed a child for adoption. My role is important, but very minimal in the grand scheme of things, and I am definitely not family. I do prefer "egg donor," or "genetic mother" if you must, to biological mother.
There is no doubt @cjolana1 that you are blessed to have found each other again! It is a beautiful thing, and I think you hit it on the head: everyone is secure in the situation and there is no reason to see one another as a threat as KC suggested at the end. It just goes to show that everyone involved has the best interest of the child at heart. I can only hope that we find an egg donor who we can be proud of for our future child.
@cjolana1 -- thanks for posting! BTW I think it's wonderful that you were willing to meet the family and be known to them. Our donor says she's willing to do so also, and I very much want my child(ren) to meet her someday. They will be curious and she will obviously be an important part of their history. My problem with the Katie show was with the terminology. I wish they had had a fertility therapist or someone like that on to help with that part.
I think everyone has a slightly different situation. Our donor wanted to be completely anonymous, only contact through agency for dire medical reasons. She was something like a five time proven donor ( with us, it was the last cycle she could do within FDA guidelines), so there were a lot of potential kids (including triplets from what I understand) who could potentially be contacting her. My husband and I preferred anonymous donation as well.
DOR and AMA
2/12-5/12: 4 IUI cycles = all BFN;
7/12: DE IVF # 1 (with ICSI)- 20R, 16M, 14F, 5DT of 2 blasts; 6 frosties = BFN;
Lupus anticoagulant initially high, then found to be normal on hematology consult;
Follow up testing in September all clear;
Started synthroid for "high normal" TSH;
FET # 1- late October 2012- BFP on FRER; beta # 1- 21(low), beta # 2- 48 (still low), beta # 3- 132, beta # 4- 1,293; beta # 5- 5,606; last beta- over 100,000. First u/s 11/21- heard heartbeat
12/12- Officially an OB patient!
Level 2 ultrasound at 20 weeks shows vasa previa and VCI
Referral to MFM and mandatory c section for delivery
Beautiful baby girl born at 34 weeks
Finally home after 15 day NICU stay!
Trying for sibling: FET # 2- May 2014; beta 5/31, BFN
FET #3, early July 2014; beta 7/14, BFN
DE IVF # 2- August 2014; 14R, 13M, 11F, 5dt of 2 blasts (3 AA), 5 frosties = BFN
FET #4- December 2014, yet another BFN
Dr. KK work up shows borderline uterine blood flow, elevated NK cells, and MTHFR mutation (homozygous for c677t)
Added baby aspirin, prednisone, supplements, Metanx, and intralipids
Switched to large clinic for final attempt; had endometrial receptivity testing in January; FET March 2015 = yet another BFN
Here are my thoughts/reactions. I don't think the term family applies here, at least not for me. I am an egg donor as well. If a child/adult conceived as a result of my donation wanted to meet me, I would be all for it. If they were looking for "family," whoa there. That's just not the relationship I have with them. I see my role as very different from, say, someone who placed a child for adoption. My role is important, but very minimal in the grand scheme of things, and I am definitely not family. I do prefer "egg donor," or "genetic mother" if you must, to biological mother.
I agree with this and as a recipient of an ANONYMOUS donation (and I'm forever grateful to my Egg Donor), I also feel strongly about the terms that the show used and that may not be the best or most appropriate for everyone's situation, even of it works for the family that was profiled.
Me: AMA, DOR, undetectable AMH, carrier of SMA, MTHFR homozygous C677T, high cytokines, low IGg B cells, Factor XIII V34l mutation, High Anti-Phosphatidylethanolmine, borderline hypothyroid and mildly insulin resistant.
MH: No known issues, aside from MTHFR.
Recommendations from RI: LIT, Humira, IVIG, Lovenox, Baby Aspirin, Folic Acid, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.
Currently taking: Pre-Natal vitamins, Foltanx, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.
When cycling also taking: Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, Humira and IVIG.
TTC since 7/11/09..with medical intervention starting in 2010, including 4 failed IVF's and 6 failed IUI's...only "success" was a chemical pregnancy in 11/2012 (credited to use of DE).
FET #1 (11th cycle) on 8/23/13 = BFN.
FET #2 (12th cycle) Transfer of last two (day 6) donor egg blasts on 1/22/14 = BFP, EDD = 10/10/14 (please stick little BOY!)
Re: Katie Couric Egg Donor show
GSx1 - 05/13/2013
GSx2 for T&B - EDD 6/21/2015 - They're having a GIRL!
***signature & ticker warning***
Me: 30 ~ Stage IV Endo ~ AMH .38 ~ AFC 8
AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?!
Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers
Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo.
Stopped BCP 4/2010.
Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN
IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN
BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012.
FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled
FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013 ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27.
Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt) Beta 4: 8503(19dpt)
Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! Team Purple
G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s.
If you're wondering about my avatar...it's a fried pickle chip shaped like a fetus!
I'm glad the daughter is so happy and normal though.
Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI (TTC#1 since 2009)
IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN
Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p
DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN
DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN
DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN
FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p
DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.
FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN
Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus
New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells
FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days
SAIF/PAIF Welcome
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***signature & ticker warning***
Me: 30 ~ Stage IV Endo ~ AMH .38 ~ AFC 8
AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?!
Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers
Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo.
Stopped BCP 4/2010.
Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN
IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN
BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012.
FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled
FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013 ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27.
Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt) Beta 4: 8503(19dpt)
Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! Team Purple
G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s.
If you're wondering about my avatar...it's a fried pickle chip shaped like a fetus!
I fully understand my part as an anonymous egg donor; however I chose to make myself available to be found for several reasons: normal curiosity of family and or children and medically. I will never seek out any of the families as I believe each have the right to raise their children and determine what is best for their families.
This being said, don't let the terms ruin a beautiful thing. It may not be for everyone, but it works for us.
We are blessed beyond belief!
DOR and AMA
2/12-5/12: 4 IUI cycles = all BFN;
7/12: DE IVF # 1 (with ICSI)- 20R, 16M, 14F, 5DT of 2 blasts; 6 frosties = BFN;
Lupus anticoagulant initially high, then found to be normal on hematology consult;
Follow up testing in September all clear;
Started synthroid for "high normal" TSH;
FET # 1- late October 2012- BFP on FRER; beta # 1- 21(low), beta # 2- 48 (still low), beta # 3- 132, beta # 4- 1,293; beta # 5- 5,606; last beta- over 100,000. First u/s 11/21- heard heartbeat
12/12- Officially an OB patient!
Level 2 ultrasound at 20 weeks shows vasa previa and VCI
Referral to MFM and mandatory c section for delivery
Beautiful baby girl born at 34 weeks
Finally home after 15 day NICU stay!
Trying for sibling: FET # 2- May 2014; beta 5/31, BFN
FET #3, early July 2014; beta 7/14, BFN
DE IVF # 2- August 2014; 14R, 13M, 11F, 5dt of 2 blasts (3 AA), 5 frosties = BFN
FET #4- December 2014, yet another BFN
Dr. KK work up shows borderline uterine blood flow, elevated NK cells, and MTHFR mutation (homozygous for c677t)
Added baby aspirin, prednisone, supplements, Metanx, and intralipids
Switched to large clinic for final attempt; had endometrial receptivity testing in January; FET March 2015 = yet another BFN
Likely OAD- NBC
Me: AMA, DOR, undetectable AMH, carrier of SMA, MTHFR homozygous C677T, high cytokines, low IGg B cells, Factor XIII V34l mutation, High Anti-Phosphatidylethanolmine, borderline hypothyroid and mildly insulin resistant.
MH: No known issues, aside from MTHFR.
Recommendations from RI: LIT, Humira, IVIG, Lovenox, Baby Aspirin, Folic Acid, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.
Currently taking: Pre-Natal vitamins, Foltanx, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.
When cycling also taking: Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, Humira and IVIG.
TTC since 7/11/09..with medical intervention starting in 2010, including 4 failed IVF's and 6 failed IUI's...only "success" was a chemical pregnancy in 11/2012 (credited to use of DE).
FET #1 (11th cycle) on 8/23/13 = BFN.
FET #2 (12th cycle) Transfer of last two (day 6) donor egg blasts on 1/22/14 = BFP, EDD = 10/10/14 (please stick little BOY!)
My favorite breed:
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