January 2015 Moms

Heartbeats and miscarry statistics

Someone posted on another thread a statistic on miscarrying after you've seen a heartbeat on ultrasound. I tried searching for it but couldn't find it. The point was that it drops your miscarriage percentage some after you've had an ultrasound with heartbeat. Anyone know what that was?
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Re: Heartbeats and miscarry statistics

  • There is "evidence" of this all over google if you do some searching. People assume it means any heartbeat but it's generally talking about once the heartbeat can be found with a Doppler rather than through ultrasound. So basically, closer to 8-9 weeks. I've personally had two 7 week miscarriages after seeing a strong and healthy heartbeat. That was before it could be found by Doppler. Hope that helps!
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  • GromMomGromMom member
    edited June 2014
    It's on the alpha mom pregnancy calendar but I'd take that with a grain of salt

    https://alphamom.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-calendar/week-six/
  • @heidih21‌ @jaciandseth‌ Thank you! We had our ultrasound today and were able to hear the heartbeat. DH wanted to know if that meant we were out of the woods. I told him no but didn't know if it reduced risks.
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  • GromMom said:

    It's on the alpha mom pregnancy calendar but I'd take that with a grain of salt

    https://alphamom.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-calendar/week-six/


    That's what I read!! I was just reading through those the other day. That must be what I was recalling! Thank you :)
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  • GromMom said:

    It's on the alpha mom pregnancy calendar but I'd take that with a grain of salt

    https://alphamom.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-calendar/week-six/


    That's what I read!! I was just reading through those the other day. That must be what I was recalling! Thank you :)
    Glad I could help, just read it today so it was fresh in my memory :-)
  • I don't know how accurate these "statistics" are, but this gets shared around TB often
    https://spacefem.com/pregnant/mc.php?m=08&d=10&y=12

    And congrats on hearing a heartbeat!




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  • I personally take those statistics with a grain of salt. I miscarried my first after seeing the heartbeat
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  • Ktbug613 said:

    I personally take those statistics with a grain of salt. I miscarried my first after seeing the heartbeat

    Well, they are statistics ...so it is just a probability based on and average sample. Outliers don't necessarily disprove a statistic.
  • My doctor said 15% of all clinically recognized pregnancies will miscarry. That statistic doesn't include things like blighted ovums, ectopic pregnancies, molar pregnancies, and later losses. My bet is within the next month we will see a lot of these...especially with first appointments and missed miscarriages. It sucks but it happens....I've lived through a loss. It sucks and stays with you for life.
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  • After a heartbeat was seen at my first appt. (at about 7 weeks) my doctor said my risk of miscarriage was "very low" because a heartbeat was found. She didn't offer any percentages, but acted like miscarriage wasn't something to be too worried about. Of course I know it could still happen, but it was reassuring and really helped me relax and not worry so much.
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  • I hesitate to even say this, but after my son died, I was thrust in to a world of harsh reality.  Babies die in utero at any gestational age.  It doesn't matter how far along you are.  You're never "safe".  28 week preemies have a 95% survival rate.  Mine died of an infection from his breathing tube.  Cord accidents, falls, unexplained things, pregnancy is risky.  I hope none of you are ever thrust in to world of infant loss, but it is far more common than you realize.  Is 8 weeks safe?  Somewhat.  Is 12 weeks safer?  Somewhat.  You're never going to have a 100% guarantee that everything will be fine.  BUT, most babies are!  My philosophy is to just enjoy every day I'm given with my baby.  We were blessed with 10 wonderful days with our son.  It sucks that he died.  It sucks really bad.  But the truth is I would do it all over again, which is why we're trying again.  Even knowing the risks, the time you are given with your baby (inside or outside the womb) is a true blessing.        
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  • @jaciandseth-- I am sorry to hear of your loss.
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  • Started a second post so hopefully not to detract from my condolences above...

    My BFF m/c at 13 weeks.  My mom had a m/c at 16 weeks (although, I think at that point it's maybe called something else?  She only ever refers to it as a m/c, though).  There is so much we still don't know yet about pregnancy.
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  • Roxycc55Roxycc55 member
    edited June 2014
    @Lanatir‌ it is still called a miscarriage, but after 14 weeks is known as 'late-term.'
    After 20 weeks it changes to still birth.

    After losing my baby at 15 weeks when I thought I was safe I don't really know that I'll ever feel that way again. However, it is true that it becomes less and less likely, and that can at least be of some comfort.

    ETA: @jaciandseth‌ I'm very sorry for your loss. And I really appreciate what you said.


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  • So sorry for your loss @jaciandseth‌ . Very well said.
  • I had an ultrsound at 8w4d and my doc said I had less than a 5% chance of miscarriage and I should be very comfortable telling people.

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  • My doctor told me once they hear a healthy heartbeat there is very little risk of miscarriage. I was 8 weeks and 1 day when the vaginal ultrasound was done.
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  • I hesitate to even say this, but after my son died, I was thrust in to a world of harsh reality.  Babies die in utero at any gestational age.  It doesn't matter how far along you are.  You're never "safe".  28 week preemies have a 95% survival rate.  Mine died of an infection from his breathing tube.  Cord accidents, falls, unexplained things, pregnancy is risky.  I hope none of you are ever thrust in to world of infant loss, but it is far more common than you realize.  Is 8 weeks safe?  Somewhat.  Is 12 weeks safer?  Somewhat.  You're never going to have a 100% guarantee that everything will be fine.  BUT, most babies are!  My philosophy is to just enjoy every day I'm given with my baby.  We were blessed with 10 wonderful days with our son.  It sucks that he died.  It sucks really bad.  But the truth is I would do it all over again, which is why we're trying again.  Even knowing the risks, the time you are given with your baby (inside or outside the womb) is a true blessing.        

    Working in labor and delivery I see the harsh reality of this on a regular basis. It's horrible. I am so sorry that you had to go through that. I agree that there is not necessarily a "safe" time. DH has been doing some reading and read about the high miscarry rates in early first trimester so I think that's what he's most focused on.
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