I picked SS because I honestly have no idea what I'd do. As it is, I don't let DS even touch the little dog because she gets nervous and snapped once when he came up behind her. We have a dog-free area gated off where I can put DS and go do something else, but if he is in the rest of the house, I always make sure I'm between him and the dog.
She's pretty much my dog soul mate, and I don't want to think about what I'd have to do in that situation.
I would need more information to answer this. How old was the child? Did the child do anything to the dog? How old is the dog? Does the dog have any medical conditions? Where was I at the time of the incident?
I would need more information to answer this.
How old was the child?
Did the child do anything to the dog?
How old is the dog?
Does the dog have any medical conditions?
Where was I at the time of the incident?
Well, I don't know the answers to those questions but you can check out the thread on Parenting. HOWEVER I think you should answer according to your own dog or hypothetical dog if you don't have one.
It depends on the situation I think. This has been on my mind a lot lately because of my dog's history and her increasing nervousness around the babies (posted about this last week).
If the dog was fairly young and I had adequate time to spend training, I would try to rehabilitate. However, depending on the type of aggression the dog is displaying, it can take a TON of time and resources to do this. When I addressed Bally's aggression issues in the past, I more or less spent all my free time and a few thousand dollars working with her and a trainer for many many months. It really was my sole focus for about a year, it was a tremendous amount of work. As a new, working mom with twins, there's no way I'd have the time to do this right now and the training may not be successful if done inconsistently or incompletely.
So with that in mind, i'd probably try to find a more suitable home. But with my dog, she's so old, she's probably only got a year or so left, and really has only ever bonded with me and is very distrustful of new people. I don't think she could ever adapt and be happy in a new home at this point. So if something ever happened with her, I really don't know what I'd do. This is my worst nightmare scenario and I just am very vigilant to prevent anything like it from happening.
I put euthanize but some of it would depend on the circumstances. If my child was older and perhaps did something to provoke the dog, I might try rehabilitation (of the dog and the child). With a younger baby, just being a baby, I don't know how much I could trust a rehabilitation effort and how do you really train without putting the baby at risk? Rehoming is a nice idea in theory, but who wants a dog with a bite history? A shelter isn't going to take the dog. Too much liability. They'll just put the dog down themselves. It would be less cruel for me to take him myself to be euthanized so he doesn't have to die with strangers.
I have 2 dogs. 1 is an old man and could care less about baby and avoids him at all costs by sleeping on the couch. But the pup LOVESSSS DS. He licks him all over, gives him his toy rope (to throw maybe? Sorry Baxter, DS can't throw) lays next to his pack and play when he's in it, and comes running if he cries. If he bit DS I would have to assume it was provoked.
Who are these mythical people who adopt dogs with a bite history?
Your options are essentially keep the dog/rehabilitate, or euthanize.
I volunteered at the animal control shelter for over 5 years. In that time, TWO dogs with a bite history were adopted (and that was mainly because for the first, there was a fight between two dogs, and the bite was accidental, and in the second, the family -- against the shelter's instructions -- tried to bathe a dog that had just been neutered and still had an open incision).
lol, idk. The general consensus of the OP seemed to be re-home.
Who are these mythical people who adopt dogs with a bite history?
Your options are essentially keep the dog/rehabilitate, or euthanize.
I volunteered at the animal control shelter for over 5 years. In that time, TWO dogs with a bite history were adopted (and that was mainly because for the first, there was a fight between two dogs, and the bite was accidental, and in the second, the family -- against the shelter's instructions -- tried to bathe a dog that had just been neutered and still had an open incision).
In my case, if I had to try to find a new home, I'd look to my friends first. I have a lot of single or childless friends who know Bally and love her and there are a couple people I can think of who might take her if worse came to worse.
My dog is in love with LO. She pulled the side of his face once and he just moaned for help. We are working with LO to be gentle with the dog and vice versa.
Answering with my own dogs in mind, I would rehabilitate because they are not aggressive dogs so it would be something that I would feel confident with fixing. I do see this being an issue when DS becomes mobile because I have a herding dog.
That said, my last dog was very aggressive and would bite anything that came into his space, especially once he lost his vision. I waited until he passed to TTC.
Who are these mythical people who adopt dogs with a bite history?
Your options are essentially keep the dog/rehabilitate, or euthanize.
I volunteered at the animal control shelter for over 5 years. In that time, TWO dogs with a bite history were adopted (and that was mainly because for the first, there was a fight between two dogs, and the bite was accidental, and in the second, the family -- against the shelter's instructions -- tried to bathe a dog that had just been neutered and still had an open incision).
lol, idk. The general consensus of the OP seemed to be re-home.
That's the consensus because people don't have a realistic concept of how hard it would be. Most shelters don't have the time, space, or resources to take on a dog with a bite history. Even if there are extenuating circumstances like in @RedheadBaker's examples, shelters can't afford to keep a dog around for as long as the rehab/adoption would take. And without rehab, there is just too much liability in adopting out the dog even if you can find someone who wants it. If you're thinking that you'll get a family member or friend to take the dog, I hope it's not someone you plan to visit. And honestly, how many people have family/friends who care enough about your dog to take them despite a bite history but that you don't visit at their home? It's a long shot that you could find a home for the dog.
Rehoming an aggressive dog is difficult but not impossible, depending on the type of dog and severity of the aggression. I know people who have adopted dogs with minorly aggressive pasts.
Ballys acts if aggression have always been more like ankle nips and then she runs away. I still consider it a bite if her teeth touch skin, but itis different from a dog bite where the dog was really trying to hurt or kill someone, draws blood and holds on or drags the kid or something. That kind of bite history would be very hard to rehome, especially with a larger dog. But I know people who have adopted 'nippy' dogs that were known to not be good with children and who are happy with their decision.
I adopted a formerly aggressive dog with multiple bite history. I knew the former owner, and it was coming down to euthanasia or he could live with me, so I took him. With love and affection, he's the sweetest dog and I have trusted him with my newborns. He occasionally shows his teeth, but has never bit since I took him in 7 years ago.
If he ever bit my kids, it would depend on the severity, but I would either keep him separated via gate or scold him and move on. He's an old dog, rehoming is not a good option for him.
Wow, this hits home to me big time. We have two senior cocker spaniels, ages 15 (Denver) and 13 (Frankie), and a 4-year-old poodle (Caesar).
The poodle and LO are #bffsforlyfe. LO can yank his fur and Caesar will yelp, but not even flinch.
The other two do have bites in their past; the oldest, Denver, bit my nephew, who was trying to take a ball out of Denver's mouth while under a table during a family dinner while I was in Florida (recipe for disaster for a dog with separation anxiety problems and an extensive history of abuse). My stepmom wanted Denver put down; my sister said absolutely not. That was 6 years ago and the last time he was ever even remotely aggressive.
Frankie, our middle furkid, bit DH on the hand the day after we rescued him. DH tried to move his bone an Frankie nipped him right in the palm. Frankie was abandoned and was very food aggressive in the beginning. No problems since.
I can't really say what I would do if one of our dogs bit Emerson, because it would totally depend on the situation. Nip or bite, blood or scratch, provoked or not, likelihood of recurrence, other circumstances that preceded the event. Obvs, Emerson's safety is #1 but it would be my goal to continue to have our dogs part of the family for the rest of their lives.
Imagining losing Denver, for any reason, just made me cry. I love that dog more than I have loved most people in my life.
I put SS. I think my chow mix will eventually nip at her as she does most kids. For that I just tap her nose and tell her no. If she violently bit LO I would try to rehabilitate. She has been through a lot in her life(abuse/shelters) and I couldn't just send her away. My husky on the other hand, I'm not really worried about. But at this point, since LO is crawling and climbing on them, they have been doing awesome!!!
I put do nothing, but I don't think I really understood what the first option of rehabbing the dog meant. It would depend on many factors of course. I have 2 shih tzus that are great with the baby. I am always right next to them when they are by each other. I'd never take getting rid of my dogs lightly, although obv baby would come first.
Of the dogs I have grown up with and known closely it would take a lot of provocation to get them to nip or bite. That being said i would try training and take it from there. My sister and her husband hand a german shepard and a shepard/pug mix. The shepard/pug is the dumbest looking dog but he is the sweetest thing with kids and babies. He would hate it if he ever hurt someone.
Dogs don't bite without reason. DD will get in Cricket's face, which she doesn't like. She's a nervous little dog. We have had one snapping incident. I make sure to keep the dogs and kids separate when I can't supervise properly. Penelope will let you do whatever you want with her and not bat an eye. That's even scarier because DD could actually hurt her and I wouldn't even hear a peep out of her. Again, we keep them separated when I can't supervise
DS Luuuuuuurves Daisy, my #furstchild yellow lab. Daisy isn't keen on him yet, but is getting there - him giving her food lately has helped
However, when we got her as a puppy, we worked a lot with her on no biting, under any circumstances. We'd put our hands in her bowl while she was eating, grab her ears, paws, etc (not enough to hurt her - just getting her used to it), all because we knew we wanted kids someday and wanted her to be as docile as possible. Now DS crawls all over her lol
@awwwpuddin , may I ask what breed of dog you have?
A Jack Russell Terrier. Apparently in the top 3 most aggressive dogs (with dachshunds and chihuahuas) in relation to frequency not severity of bites. They have very little patience. Ours (or should I say DH's) is 10 years old and very grumpy. I've had/ been around dogs my entire life and I am considering never getting another one ever again.
What is yours? Looks kind of JRTish
My sister has a JRT and they live with us. I don't trust him around DS. He's tried nipping him before. Cranky old man.
This actually happened to us with DD1. She was just learning to crawl and startled him as he was watching me with food (apparently thinking I was going to drop something). He turned and snapped, breaking the skin just on her cheek. Luckily she was ok. Dh put our dog in the backyard and we both cried. Devastated.
My parents came and took him home with them the next day. I'm so thankful that we didn't have to make a heartbreaking decision.
Fast forward 2 years, he started visiting often and was so good with dd. He was so much more mature and less skittish. He still lives with us, and obviously while I wouldn't leave him alone with either if the girls, he's a wonderful companion to both if them.
Tldr: Btdt. My parents are awesome. Happily ever after.
It would depend on the circumstances. But if it was an aggressive act, and unprovoked, I'd (exceedingly sadly) have to put that dog down. This is the #1 reason I am the alpha dog in my house. My dogs cringe when I catch them with a Kleenex.
Re: WWYD if your dog bit your baby?
She's pretty much my dog soul mate, and I don't want to think about what I'd have to do in that situation.
How old was the child?
Did the child do anything to the dog?
How old is the dog?
Does the dog have any medical conditions?
Where was I at the time of the incident?
If the dog was fairly young and I had adequate time to spend training, I would try to rehabilitate. However, depending on the type of aggression the dog is displaying, it can take a TON of time and resources to do this. When I addressed Bally's aggression issues in the past, I more or less spent all my free time and a few thousand dollars working with her and a trainer for many many months. It really was my sole focus for about a year, it was a tremendous amount of work. As a new, working mom with twins, there's no way I'd have the time to do this right now and the training may not be successful if done inconsistently or incompletely.
So with that in mind, i'd probably try to find a more suitable home. But with my dog, she's so old, she's probably only got a year or so left, and really has only ever bonded with me and is very distrustful of new people. I don't think she could ever adapt and be happy in a new home at this point. So if something ever happened with her, I really don't know what I'd do. This is my worst nightmare scenario and I just am very vigilant to prevent anything like it from happening.
I'm going to go hug my puppies now
That said, my last dog was very aggressive and would bite anything that came into his space, especially once he lost his vision. I waited until he passed to TTC.
That's the consensus because people don't have a realistic concept of how hard it would be. Most shelters don't have the time, space, or resources to take on a dog with a bite history. Even if there are extenuating circumstances like in @RedheadBaker's examples, shelters can't afford to keep a dog around for as long as the rehab/adoption would take. And without rehab, there is just too much liability in adopting out the dog even if you can find someone who wants it. If you're thinking that you'll get a family member or friend to take the dog, I hope it's not someone you plan to visit. And honestly, how many people have family/friends who care enough about your dog to take them despite a bite history but that you don't visit at their home? It's a long shot that you could find a home for the dog.
I wish my dog loved my kid, like some others seem too. It would make life so much easier.
ETA: didn't see you asked what kind of dog she is: part chihuahua, part schnauzer. All cute
Ballys acts if aggression have always been more like ankle nips and then she runs away. I still consider it a bite if her teeth touch skin, but itis different from a dog bite where the dog was really trying to hurt or kill someone, draws blood and holds on or drags the kid or something. That kind of bite history would be very hard to rehome, especially with a larger dog. But I know people who have adopted 'nippy' dogs that were known to not be good with children and who are happy with their decision.
I adopted a formerly aggressive dog with multiple bite history. I knew the former owner, and it was coming down to euthanasia or he could live with me, so I took him. With love and affection, he's the sweetest dog and I have trusted him with my newborns. He occasionally shows his teeth, but has never bit since I took him in 7 years ago.
If he ever bit my kids, it would depend on the severity, but I would either keep him separated via gate or scold him and move on. He's an old dog, rehoming is not a good option for him.
The poodle and LO are #bffsforlyfe. LO can yank his fur and Caesar will yelp, but not even flinch.
The other two do have bites in their past; the oldest, Denver, bit my nephew, who was trying to take a ball out of Denver's mouth while under a table during a family dinner while I was in Florida (recipe for disaster for a dog with separation anxiety problems and an extensive history of abuse). My stepmom wanted Denver put down; my sister said absolutely not. That was 6 years ago and the last time he was ever even remotely aggressive.
Frankie, our middle furkid, bit DH on the hand the day after we rescued him. DH tried to move his bone an Frankie nipped him right in the palm. Frankie was abandoned and was very food aggressive in the beginning. No problems since.
I can't really say what I would do if one of our dogs bit Emerson, because it would totally depend on the situation. Nip or bite, blood or scratch, provoked or not, likelihood of recurrence, other circumstances that preceded the event. Obvs, Emerson's safety is #1 but it would be my goal to continue to have our dogs part of the family for the rest of their lives.
Imagining losing Denver, for any reason, just made me cry. I love that dog more than I have loved most people in my life.
And because I need to AW Frankie, too:
Chance the guard doggie.
My sister has a JRT and they live with us. I don't trust him around DS. He's tried nipping him before. Cranky old man.
My parents came and took him home with them the next day. I'm so thankful that we didn't have to make a heartbreaking decision.
Fast forward 2 years, he started visiting often and was so good with dd. He was so much more mature and less skittish. He still lives with us, and obviously while I wouldn't leave him alone with either if the girls, he's a wonderful companion to both if them.
Tldr: Btdt. My parents are awesome. Happily ever after.