Are the chickens pets, though? My ILs grew up on a farm with pigs and they ate them but they weren't pets, they were livestock. I think eating your pets is weird but raising food to eat it is different.
This is probably more of an UO than a FFC, but I find hunting for sport odd. I'm not against it, really, but I think it's sort of strange that someone's idea of a good time is to go out and kill something.
Sorry i cant remember who all i am replying too... - yes same guy. Ugh. All i can think is that i met him during such hard part of my life and the is why i am still dealing with getting over this. I was thinking this morning that i might make an appt with my therapist just help me some how deal with this. Having you all agree with how serious this is is really helping me as well. It is confirming my feelings of how bd this really i instead of my friend telling me the it i normal and okay.
- My marriage is better but still not perfect. Dh and i have been working opposite shifts for the past 2.5 years. I was working 5 days a week then went down to 4 for the past year and now back to 5. And damn it, it is really hard! I miss him. We really need to working dating again. But we talk a lot more then we use to which is really good.
Lol I don't *think* pigeons are that uncommon to eat; I personally never have, but DH's family used to raise racing pigeons and would eat them too when he was younger. I myself wouldn't do the killing/plucking/etc, but DH would, he has no problem with that. And yea, when our chickens stop laying we will consider eating them too....why not? Yea, they're pets, but c'mon, they're chickens! H hunts too....should we not eat the deer meat? ~:>
Maybe this is a FFC...I can't wait for our chicken butchering day(s). We currently have about 140 chicks we've hatched out. We will keep about 30 hens for laying; everything else is destined for our freezer.
And DH has considered raising/collecting squab. They are living in our silo, so he figures why not take advantage of it? I have no intentions of eating squab, but don't care if DH wants to do so.
Is this where I mention my drunk friend in the last story once ha a homeless lady next to her pick a pigeon off the ground in NYC look directly in my friends face as she broke it's neck and put it in her purse.
Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally. I know i would never want to be without him.
Also, when we had chickens, they were only allowed to be named after food dishes featuring them as an entree so I wouldn't feel bad about eating them. We had Pot Pie, Marsala, Nugget, Waffle, and Chow Mein.
@SallyAnneS Working opposite shifts would be hard on even the best marriage, is this something you guys can fix so you can work the same shifts and spend time together?
@aliebno How does one go about slowly rehoming 15 pigeons? Just borrow a cat and scare them off.
Drive them into the city and kick them out of the car.
Better yet, drop them off around the corner from the guy who sold them to you.
LOL I just envision her opening the cage and letting one fly out in the morning, and one at night, for a week. No?
Lol they are actually pet pigeons, so I would feel bad just letting them go. Or technically they are "fancy" pigeons. We have a livestock auction by us, so we may try there to get rid of some of them. We're not looking to make money or anything, but yea, I would feel bad just letting them out!
@aliebno How does one go about slowly rehoming 15 pigeons? Just borrow a cat and scare them off.
Drive them into the city and kick them out of the car.
Better yet, drop them off around the corner from the guy who sold them to you.
LOL I just envision her opening the cage and letting one fly out in the morning, and one at night, for a week. No?
Lol they are actually pet pigeons, so I would feel bad just letting them go. Or technically they are "fancy" pigeons. We have a livestock auction by us, so we may try there to get rid of some of them. We're not looking to make money or anything, but yea, I would feel bad just letting them out!
Oh eeerrrr we may end up eating them...guess that's a confession too....
Wtf...are you being serious? That's really messed up.
why? because they were pets? because its a legitimate food source. I mean, I wouldn't do it because I can't bring myself to kill and pluck anything, but they were actually imported to NY as food if I remember my Good Eats history correctly.
Yeah I think it's odd to feel as she said "bad about letting them go" and then want to eat them.
**GAH stuck in the box! Yea, but letting them go means them potentially starving to death. That's not fair. Eating them involves...well...a quick end.
I am, irrationally, annoyed that MIL didn't come by last night. It was her birthday and we were going to go over there for just an hour to hang out and wish her a happy birthday. She calls and tells us how busy she is with doing things and how today wouldn't work, or Friday, or Saturday. DH asked if after dinner they could come by and just pop in to say hello so he could give her a hug and her card. They never came over or called to say they couldn't make it. While I understand that something could've come up or maybe they didn't want to stop by, I wish they would've just said no or at least called.
It's dumb and I know I shouldn't be this way, but my biggest pet peeve is when people don't call and just blow me off. I don't care what excuse you give, but FFS at least let me know.
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Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally.
I know i would never want to be without him.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally.
I know i would never want to be without him.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
This was hashed out in like pages a few months ago.
Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally.
I know i would never want to be without him.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
This was hashed out in like pages a few months ago.
I remember but, I feel like it's an attention thing. Why bring it up again, KWIM?
Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally.
I know i would never want to be without him.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
This was hashed out in like pages a few months ago.
I remember but, I feel like it's an attention thing. Why bring it up again, KWIM?
Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally.
I know i would never want to be without him.
True.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
This was hashed out in like pages a few months ago.
I remember but, I feel like it's an attention thing. Why bring it up again, KWIM?
Oh someone asked about the weight thing and attraction. He has lost almost 40lbs and looks a lot better. I have come to realize that he is never going to be drop dead handsom to me. Now that i know that i feel can move on a bit and really enjoy how attracted to him i am emotionally and mentally.
I know i would never want to be without him.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
This was hashed out in like pages a few months ago.
I remember but, I feel like it's an attention thing. Why bring it up again, KWIM?
Better she do it here and try to work through her feelings then seriously jeopardize her marriage.
Very true. Good to see it from a different view. It just rubbed me the wrong way at first.
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
How is this done "respectfully,' out of curiosity? How is it respectful to kill an animal and not even eat it? Is it something about overpopulation?
BTW, I know this sounds combative but I don't mean it that way. I just don't understand.
We were in line at Costco this morning and I was THISclose to throat punching the old guy behind us. He was commenting on my babies, saying "That poor woman with the twins!" and "Glad that never happened to us, I would've shot myself!" Really!? Shut your pie hole, ass wipe!! He was just going on and on to the woman with him. I didn't turn around because I knew I'd make a scene. Now that I'm home, I wish I had. He was being such a jerk!
DH fully expects the kids to make the choice of either going hunting when they are of age (if they want to continue to eat meat) or being vegetarians if they won't. (I was a vegetarian until a few years ago and it's fine if they choose that as well) However, he's also very strict about hunting for food vs. hunting for sport. We often fish and the kids are aware that, if allowed, we eat what we catch.
DH fully expects the kids to make the choice of either going hunting when they are of age (if they want to continue to eat meat) or being vegetarians if they won't. (I was a vegetarian until a few years ago and it's fine if they choose that as well) However, he's also very strict about hunting for food vs. hunting for sport. We often fish and the kids are aware that, if allowed, we eat what we catch.
DH fully expects the kids to make the choice of either going hunting when they are of age (if they want to continue to eat meat) or being vegetarians if they won't. (I was a vegetarian until a few years ago and it's fine if they choose that as well) However, he's also very strict about hunting for food vs. hunting for sport. We often fish and the kids are aware that, if allowed, we eat what we catch.
What does he consider "of age"?
12 which is the legal age to get their hunting license in PA.
A portion of it does. Some also comes from family/friend farm animals. I do buy meat at stores since we no longer live in the rural area that we grew up in. He doesn't expect all of the food to come from animals that our family has hunted but for the kids to realize the impact that their eating meat has. Generally, we both don't want them to be okay with eating meat just because someone else killed it.
A portion of it does. Some also comes from family/friend farm animals. I do buy meat at stores since we no longer live in the rural area that we grew up in.
He doesn't expect all of the food to come from animals that our family has hunted but for the kids to realize the impact that their eating meat has. Generally, we both don't want them to be okay with eating meat just because someone else killed it.
While educating kids on food, where it comes from, etc. is important, I guess I just feel that is a large decision to expect a 12 year old to make. They are still just kids.
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
How is this done "respectfully,' out of curiosity? How is it respectful to kill an animal and not even eat it? Is it something about overpopulation?
BTW, I know this sounds combative but I don't mean it that way. I just don't understand.
I've seen some people do things like.. take ridiculous pictures with trophy kills and stuff like that, which is what I was thinking. But also some trophy hunting serves ecological purposes as well - for example, brown bears, which are generally not eaten, hunting the larger boars (the trophy animals) leads to a higher cub survival rate because the large boars tend to eat baby bears frequently. Stuff like that.
@amy052006- So are they. They also are aware that Uncle X's pigs give us bacon and friend Y's chickens lay our eggs until Friend Y's family eats the chicken. They'll also work on family farms as preteens/teenagers in the summer as DH and I did. Obviously it's something that we have a difference of opinion on.
I was at the zoo today. At the deer exhibit, while DD was happily pointing and exclaiming "Deer! Pretty!" there was some jackass full grown man behind her making a gun with his fingers and pretending to shoot the deer. He had the sense to stop when he saw me staring daggers at him, but seriously dude, in what part of your brain did you figure that was an appropriate action?
I see no issue with killing pigeons you received as long as it is humanely done. I understand how you wouldn't want to release them to starve if they were not wild.
Hmm... Maybe my ffc is that I always thought I would like DH to get in shape. When he did, I didn't like it. I mean, he was nowhere near overweight, and he lost about 30 pounds and started running, he was buff! But I quickly realized I didn't like him as a pretty boy lol! It was a lot of work for him to maintain. So I enjoyed the 6 pack for awhile but was happy when he went back to my huggable burly guy.
Our neighborhood is having a HUGE garage sale this year. I just got the map today and am plotting my route, will be out there at 9:00 am sharp, with the wagon sans kids, I'm pumped...yeah I'm that cool. Haha!
@Diapers&Wipes- that is the basic plan (which was the same for DH,SIL, all 16 of his cousins, and now their children). They aren't forced to provide meals and continually hunt but if they are going to choose to continue to eat meat, then they would need to go through the actual process once. We also view it as a survival skill like the various types of fishing and farming they have been taught as they are growing. We're going camping later tonight and I'm sure that we'll fish tomorrow for our dinner.
My husband is a big hunter and fisher. I can not tell you the last time we bought hamburger meat or any fish besides salmon. He catches them fresh out of the gulf.
We have already bought a lifetime hunting license for our son. He will go when he can sit still long enough. I would never make him continue to do it if he didn't like it. And would never force being a vegetarian on him. I don't like to hunt but I sure do like being a carnivor
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
How is this done "respectfully,' out of curiosity? How is it respectful to kill an animal and not even eat it? Is it something about overpopulation?
BTW, I know this sounds combative but I don't mean it that way. I just don't understand.
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
Nope. There is nothing respectful about killing something just for fun that you do not intend to eat. And I say this as that wife of a (not very successful) hunter. My dad and husband enjoy hunting. They primarily hunt duck, geese, and quail. My dad also goes on a yearly deer hunt where they camp for weeks and only use bows and arrows because it is more challenging. They always eat what they kill. They enjoy being in nature, the commraderie, and they enjoy the challenge. I am sure there is also a sense of satisfaction that they can provide food for their family if need be. @letranger - I would compare it to the sense pride and of self reliance that you feel that you can fit your whole family on your bike to escape the zombie apocalypse while the rest of us chumps are stuck on the freeway.
But shooting a bear just cause you can? Shitty.
I was downstairs sweeping and dusting with DD1 and thought, Wow, DS is being so quiet. I wonder if he fell asleep. Nope! I went upstairs and saw that his bedroom door was closed. OMFG!!! I totally forgot that I put him on a 5 minute time-out for throwing toys in the loft and being too rough with his sister... that was 35 minutes ago. MOTY? When I walked in I gave him a hug and asked how he was doing. He said, "Oh fine, just playing Lego Batman," which he was. See, he needed some time to chill, and playing on his own is good for him. If he were upset he would have cried. Right?
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
How is this done "respectfully,' out of curiosity? How is it respectful to kill an animal and not even eat it? Is it something about overpopulation?
BTW, I know this sounds combative but I don't mean it that way. I just don't understand.
I hunt and eat what I kill, but I'm also not opposed to trophy hunting when done respectfully.
DH and I had Kodiak bear tags once. We didn't end up getting a shot, but if we had we certainly wouldn't have eaten it (though I would have tried some).
Nope. There is nothing respectful about killing something just for fun that you do not intend to eat. And I say this as that wife of a (not very successful) hunter. My dad and husband enjoy hunting. They primarily hunt duck, geese, and quail. My dad also goes on a yearly deer hunt where they camp for weeks and only use bows and arrows because it is more challenging. They always eat what they kill. They enjoy being in nature, the commraderie, and they enjoy the challenge. I am sure there is also a sense of satisfaction that they can provide food for their family if need be. @letranger - I would compare it to the sense pride and of self reliance that you feel that you can fit your whole family on your bike to escape the zombie apocalypse while the rest of us chumps are stuck on the freeway.
But shooting a bear just cause you can? Shitty.
Re: FFC
- yes same guy. Ugh. All i can think is that i met him during such hard part of my life and the is why i am still dealing with getting over this. I was thinking this morning that i might make an appt with my therapist just help me some how deal with this. Having you all agree with how serious this is is really helping me as well. It is confirming my feelings of how bd this really i instead of my friend telling me the it i normal and okay.
- My marriage is better but still not perfect. Dh and i have been working opposite shifts for the past 2.5 years. I was working 5 days a week then went down to 4 for the past year and now back to 5. And damn it, it is really hard! I miss him. We really need to working dating again. But we talk a lot more then we use to which is really good.
And DH has considered raising/collecting squab. They are living in our silo, so he figures why not take advantage of it? I have no intentions of eating squab, but don't care if DH wants to do so.
Omg! Creepy!!
I know i would never want to be without him.
Cnamom - marriage is hard eh.
Eating pigeons makes me laugh.
It's dumb and I know I shouldn't be this way, but my biggest pet peeve is when people don't call and just blow me off. I don't care what excuse you give, but FFS at least let me know.
I'm incredibly sad for your H. What if the shoe was on the other foot? It would suck huh?
I remember but, I feel like it's an attention thing. Why bring it up again, KWIM?
True.
Very true. Good to see it from a different view. It just rubbed me the wrong way at first.
BTW, I know this sounds combative but I don't mean it that way. I just don't understand.
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12 which is the legal age to get their hunting license in PA.
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He doesn't expect all of the food to come from animals that our family has hunted but for the kids to realize the impact that their eating meat has. Generally, we both don't want them to be okay with eating meat just because someone else killed it.
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My husband is a big hunter and fisher. I can not tell you the last time we bought hamburger meat or any fish besides salmon. He catches them fresh out of the gulf.
We have already bought a lifetime hunting license for our son. He will go when he can sit still long enough. I would never make him continue to do it if he didn't like it. And would never force being a vegetarian on him. I don't like to hunt but I sure do like being a carnivor
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I was downstairs sweeping and dusting with DD1 and thought, Wow, DS is being so quiet. I wonder if he fell asleep. Nope! I went upstairs and saw that his bedroom door was closed. OMFG!!! I totally forgot that I put him on a 5 minute time-out for throwing toys in the loft and being too rough with his sister... that was 35 minutes ago. MOTY? When I walked in I gave him a hug and asked how he was doing. He said, "Oh fine, just playing Lego Batman," which he was. See, he needed some time to chill, and playing on his own is good for him. If he were upset he would have cried. Right?