I had my Lap today. It's confirmed, I have endo. The good news is it's only mild, and it's not on my ovaries, I cannot remember where it was located. Since it's not on my ovaries we know it is not the cause of my DOR. The bad news is DH said (in his mind), it further confirms all our failed cycles are his fault. It makes me cry that he thinks it's his fault. We will follow up in two weeks and talk about our next steps. She thanked me for emailing her about the low stim protocol for DOR and the study I attached with the email. She seems open to trying it. I will know for sure at the follow up. Thanks for all your support.
::: Married June 2003::: TTC #1 since: Aug. 2008 Me: 34, DOR, MTHFR-A1298C (heterozygous), decreased blood flow to uterus, Mild Endo DH: 38, Balanced translocation 5&10, unexplained MFI, normal SA and SCSA Tx History: IUI 1&2= BFN IVF# 1 W/ICSI= BFN IVF# 2: cancelled d/t no response IVF# 3= 1 egg retrieved=immature/not viable IVF# 4= c/p ***CCRM ODWU*** Found DHs BT and Me-decreased blood flow to uterus Recommended DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. Decided to cycle locally ***New RE*** DE IVF# 1(cycle #6) w/pgd, (freeze all): 30R, 23M, 15F, slow/poor embryo development, 4 biopsied, 1 Normal "Norm"; DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. IVF# 6: (OE/DS) cancelled IVF# 7: (OE/DS) 1R, 1M, 1F, arrested day 5 Plan-DE IVF# 2 (cycle #8): DE/DS in May 2015
Natural cycle Dec 2010 BFP M/C 6 1/2 Weeks, D&E Jan 2011 1 Clomid/Ovidrel BFN May 2011 Natural cycle Aug 2011 BFP M/C 4 Weeks 1 IUI Sept 2011 BFP M/c 7 weeks Provera Dec 2011 BFP M/C 3 Weeks
DQ ALPHA HLA MATCH, High NK Cells Diagnosed Dec 2011 IVF March 2012 BFP m/c 4weeks 5 days (IL, Prednisone) IVF#2w/DS July 2012 MEGA FAILURE BFN (IL, Dexamethasone) Diagnosed No real HLA Match, DQ Beta Triad, High TNF, Low NK Cells Oct 2012 Natural Cycle m/c 4wks (Lovenox, Prednisone) Went to Beer Center- high tnf, low lad, implantation failure
Nov/Dec 2012 LIT Treatment
Dec 12 Humira Jan 2013 BFP Humira,LIT,Prednisone, Lovenox, IVIG, Baby Aspirin Miracle Born August 2013 Premature
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46 DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!! First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA
October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos
November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues. Converted to freeze all due to lining issues. 2 blasts frozen on day 6!
January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues
Ugh, sorry! Can you do the lupron depot treatment before another transfer? I have heard it helps suppress endo and improves implantation rates. Your sentence cut off so I can't tell if the endo is not on your ovary? Is it in/on your uterus?
It's not on my ovaries. I will edit my post. I was still half high from the anesthesia when I posted, and obviously didn't read it before I hit post. :-/ I only vaguely remember what she said, and DH just said it's mild and it's not on my ovaries, which in his mind confirms our failures are his fault. I will have a more clear picture of our next steps after I meet with her (RE) in two weeks.
::: Married June 2003::: TTC #1 since: Aug. 2008 Me: 34, DOR, MTHFR-A1298C (heterozygous), decreased blood flow to uterus, Mild Endo DH: 38, Balanced translocation 5&10, unexplained MFI, normal SA and SCSA Tx History: IUI 1&2= BFN IVF# 1 W/ICSI= BFN IVF# 2: cancelled d/t no response IVF# 3= 1 egg retrieved=immature/not viable IVF# 4= c/p ***CCRM ODWU*** Found DHs BT and Me-decreased blood flow to uterus Recommended DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. Decided to cycle locally ***New RE*** DE IVF# 1(cycle #6) w/pgd, (freeze all): 30R, 23M, 15F, slow/poor embryo development, 4 biopsied, 1 Normal "Norm"; DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. IVF# 6: (OE/DS) cancelled IVF# 7: (OE/DS) 1R, 1M, 1F, arrested day 5 Plan-DE IVF# 2 (cycle #8): DE/DS in May 2015
Not to scare you but mild endo can be worse than stage 3-4 endo. Those with mild endo tend to have high nk cells and cytokines which can make the ute toxic to embryos. I have mild endo too and I met with an RI after a loss of a normal embryo and I have high cytokines and nk cells.
TTC#1 since April 2011 IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN IVF#2 Oct 2012 16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657 US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115 US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype IVF#3 Mar 2013 6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC
IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals!
I am really sorry. I hope that having this new info does somehow help you make a plan that helps you be most successful. It really sucks watching your husband hurt like that. I hurt for you both...big huge hugs.
************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************ Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1 Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant DH: Severe MFI 12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly) My ovaries are just for decoration
12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years! 2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13 3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d. 6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years! 9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts 9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14 9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d.
11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow! 11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13 Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522 Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!
Snowflake baby is a girl! Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014! My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
Not to scare you but mild endo can be worse than stage 3-4 endo. Those with mild endo tend to have high nk cells and cytokines which can make the ute toxic to embryos. I have mild endo too and I met with an RI after a loss of a normal embryo and I have high cytokines and nk cells.
I've been tested for NK cells. It's borderline and my RE will be treating me with intralipids. What is the typical treatment for high cytokines and nk cell?
::: Married June 2003::: TTC #1 since: Aug. 2008 Me: 34, DOR, MTHFR-A1298C (heterozygous), decreased blood flow to uterus, Mild Endo DH: 38, Balanced translocation 5&10, unexplained MFI, normal SA and SCSA Tx History: IUI 1&2= BFN IVF# 1 W/ICSI= BFN IVF# 2: cancelled d/t no response IVF# 3= 1 egg retrieved=immature/not viable IVF# 4= c/p ***CCRM ODWU*** Found DHs BT and Me-decreased blood flow to uterus Recommended DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. Decided to cycle locally ***New RE*** DE IVF# 1(cycle #6) w/pgd, (freeze all): 30R, 23M, 15F, slow/poor embryo development, 4 biopsied, 1 Normal "Norm"; DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. IVF# 6: (OE/DS) cancelled IVF# 7: (OE/DS) 1R, 1M, 1F, arrested day 5 Plan-DE IVF# 2 (cycle #8): DE/DS in May 2015
Prednisone and intralipids or IVIG if intralipids don't work. My ri won't prescribe intralipids so I'll be doing IVIG
TTC#1 since April 2011 IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN IVF#2 Oct 2012 16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657 US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115 US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype IVF#3 Mar 2013 6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC
IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals!
I'm so sorry you've been diagnosed with endo. Just remind your DH that endo plays a huge role in infertility and it certainly isn't his fault. Endo creates a toxic environment and makes implantation very difficult.
I have endo (stage 3) and added prednisone for implantation failure this time. I'm certain it's the only reason it worked. It wouldn't hurt to ask about it. I'm on a very low dose (5mg) until 12 weeks.
Although it isn't fun to get new a new diagnosis, at least it answers some questions and can provide some treatment options.
ttc #2 since 2004 Me (35): Stage 3 Endo, DH (34): High DNA Frag
IVF/ICSI #2: April 2014: BFP!!!!!!
ET of 2 great quality embryos. + BFP on 9dp5dt. Beta #1 (10dp5dt): 257, Beta #2 (14dp5dt): 1561,
Beta #3 (21dp5d5): 8,172. Wow. It seems this is actually working. Shocked beyond belief.
1st u/s @6w5d: Baby A hb 124, Baby B hb 127 (Both measuring perfectly!)
Lost baby A. Praying that baby B stays healthy. Baby B hb 175 at 11 weeks
Re: Yet another diagnosis...
Anovulatory cycles, increased Synthroid Diagnosed Sep 2010
1 Clomid/Ovidrel BFN May 2011
Natural cycle Aug 2011 BFP M/C 4 Weeks
1 IUI Sept 2011 BFP M/c 7 weeks
Provera Dec 2011 BFP M/C 3 Weeks
IVF March 2012 BFP m/c 4weeks 5 days (IL, Prednisone)
IVF#2w/DS July 2012 MEGA FAILURE BFN (IL, Dexamethasone)
Diagnosed No real HLA Match, DQ Beta Triad, High TNF, Low NK Cells
Oct 2012 Natural Cycle m/c 4wks (Lovenox, Prednisone)
Went to Beer Center- high tnf, low lad, implantation failure
Jan 2013 BFP
Humira,LIT,Prednisone, Lovenox, IVIG, Baby Aspirin
Miracle Born August 2013 Premature
Yours doesn't have to be a sad story
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days
SAIF/PAIF Welcome
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TTC #1 since August 2011
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September 2012: Start IF testing
DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA
October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos
November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues. Converted to freeze all due to lining issues. 2 blasts frozen on day 6!
January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues
April 2015: FET #2.1
PAIF/SAIF Welcome!
::: Married June 2003:::
TTC #1 since: Aug. 2008
Me: 34, DOR, MTHFR-A1298C (heterozygous), decreased blood flow to uterus, Mild Endo
DH: 38, Balanced translocation 5&10, unexplained MFI, normal SA and SCSA
Tx History: IUI 1&2= BFN
IVF# 1 W/ICSI= BFN
IVF# 2: cancelled d/t no response
IVF# 3= 1 egg retrieved=immature/not viable
IVF# 4= c/p
***CCRM ODWU***
Found DHs BT and Me-decreased blood flow to uterus
Recommended DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. Decided to cycle locally
***New RE***
DE IVF# 1(cycle #6) w/pgd, (freeze all): 30R, 23M, 15F, slow/poor embryo development, 4 biopsied, 1 Normal "Norm"; DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture.
IVF# 6: (OE/DS) cancelled
IVF# 7: (OE/DS) 1R, 1M, 1F, arrested day 5
Plan-DE IVF# 2 (cycle #8): DE/DS in May 2015
http://icanhazbabyz.blogspot.com/
TTC#1 since April 2011
IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p
FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN
IVF#2 Oct 2012
16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer
Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657
US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115
US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype
IVF#3 Mar 2013
6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer
ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC
IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN
http://i61.tinypic.com/34zll06IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals!
************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************
Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
DH: Severe MFI
12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)
My ovaries are just for decoration
12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts.
2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.
6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d.
11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522 Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373
6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!
Snowflake baby is a girl!
Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!
My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
Age: 35 TTC since 2005, MFI & DOR
IVF #1 Sep '11 - canceled poor response
IVF #2 Nov '11 8R/8M/4F 3dt x2 - chemical
IVF #3 April '12 11R/6M/4F 3dt x2 - m/c
FET #1 Aug 2012 3dt x2 - BFN
**new RE**
IVF #4 Jan '13 BFN 11R/6M/6F 5dt x2 - BFN
IVF #5 July '13 16R/10M/10F 5dt x2 + 1 frostie
9dp5dt Beta 1 = 344!! 16dp5dt. Beta 2 = 4822 7wk u/s= 2 heartbeats!
Twin girls! 3/6/14
::: Married June 2003:::
TTC #1 since: Aug. 2008
Me: 34, DOR, MTHFR-A1298C (heterozygous), decreased blood flow to uterus, Mild Endo
DH: 38, Balanced translocation 5&10, unexplained MFI, normal SA and SCSA
Tx History: IUI 1&2= BFN
IVF# 1 W/ICSI= BFN
IVF# 2: cancelled d/t no response
IVF# 3= 1 egg retrieved=immature/not viable
IVF# 4= c/p
***CCRM ODWU***
Found DHs BT and Me-decreased blood flow to uterus
Recommended DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture. Decided to cycle locally
***New RE***
DE IVF# 1(cycle #6) w/pgd, (freeze all): 30R, 23M, 15F, slow/poor embryo development, 4 biopsied, 1 Normal "Norm"; DE IVF w/PGD, incorporate electro-acupuncture.
IVF# 6: (OE/DS) cancelled
IVF# 7: (OE/DS) 1R, 1M, 1F, arrested day 5
Plan-DE IVF# 2 (cycle #8): DE/DS in May 2015
http://icanhazbabyz.blogspot.com/
TTC#1 since April 2011
IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p
FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN
IVF#2 Oct 2012
16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer
Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657
US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115
US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype
IVF#3 Mar 2013
6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer
ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC
IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN
http://i61.tinypic.com/34zll06IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals!
I'm so sorry you've been diagnosed with endo. Just remind your DH that endo plays a huge role in infertility and it certainly isn't his fault. Endo creates a toxic environment and makes implantation very difficult.
I have endo (stage 3) and added prednisone for implantation failure this time. I'm certain it's the only reason it worked. It wouldn't hurt to ask about it. I'm on a very low dose (5mg) until 12 weeks.
Although it isn't fun to get new a new diagnosis, at least it answers some questions and can provide some treatment options.
ttc #2 since 2004 Me (35): Stage 3 Endo, DH (34): High DNA Frag
IVF/ICSI #2: April 2014: BFP!!!!!!
ET of 2 great quality embryos. + BFP on 9dp5dt. Beta #1 (10dp5dt): 257, Beta #2 (14dp5dt): 1561,
Beta #3 (21dp5d5): 8,172. Wow. It seems this is actually working. Shocked beyond belief.
1st u/s @6w5d: Baby A hb 124, Baby B hb 127 (Both measuring perfectly!)
Lost baby A. Praying that baby B stays healthy. Baby B hb 175 at 11 weeks
It's a GIRL!!!
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So sorry
Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI (TTC#1 since 2009)
IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN
Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p
DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN
DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN
DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN
FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p
DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.
FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN
Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus
New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells
FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October