July 2013 Moms

Teach me your ways

Okay I want to frolic. I need to frolic.

So teach me. What do I do to get my kid to sleep in her play pen? She will not be rocked to sleep, she won't sleep on me anymore. She just can't get comfortable on me anymore. So what's the secret? Okay obviously there is no magic secret, but what book do I read? Tips?

She cries the minute I leave the room. Like screaming sobbing cries. If I stay in the room but don't hold her she screams and sobs. If I hold her and try to rock her she kicks me until I put her down.

Okay I'm just ranting now. Help??

Re: Teach me your ways

  • I'm only suggesting this because it's what Feli decided was right for her - when she wakes up and will not be consoled to sleep, we lay her on her belly (and then lay down next to her). She fusses a bit more, then puts her head down and sleeps (and then we transplant her to her crib). After the first such episode at the beginning of this week this has turned into a ritual for naptime, too. 

    I hope you find something that works!
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  • I wish I could help more than my lame suggestions.... :(

    Does she have any comfort items (other than you)? Could you try and wean her onto one? Does she use a pacifier? Do you transfer her to a crib at night? Are there times when she sleeps on her own?

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  • When my first kid was a bit older than our babies (but I can't remember how much older?), we went through a phase where I would sit or lie down on the floor next to his crib until he fell asleep. Then I slowly moved toward door over the course of many nights until eventually I was sitting by the door while he fell asleep. Then kept moving to outside the door, then finally could just leave him in there. I can't remember how long it took or how long that latest before the next sleep issue arrived, but it worked for at least a while.

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    We did this with Marnie when we moved into this house after room sharing with her for four months (she was in her crib but in the same room). She had a hard transition to sleeping in her own room.

    We (or, more accurately, I) would sit on the floor by her crib until she fell asleep. It worked after about two weeks that she would sleep through the night alone.

    Loveys have been key for us. Marnie has her 'Pink Baby' and Amanda has her Wubs. She can't fall asleep without a Wub in her hand....

    My only suggestion would be to try to develop a lovey. Not a good one, but all that I have.... :/

    I'm assuming here that sleep training is an absolute no. ;)

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  • A lovey really helped us! It lives in his crib and that's the only time he gets it. Also white noise.

    When it's nap time I change him in his room while white noise is going, then feed him if it's time to eat, or rock him until he is out. He usually wakes when I put him in the crib but I hand him his lovey and he usually just curls up on his side with it and goes out.

    We chose the lovey for him. It's one of those things where it has an animal head and blanket body? He liked to grip the blanket and suck on the elephant nose lol
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    When DD pulls off the boob and does a little eye rub, I put her in her crib and immediately exit. She cries intensely for one minute, then either rolls over and goes to sleep, says "la la la" to herself until she falls asleep, or chews on her bunny lovey until she falls asleep. It sucks for the one minute of screaming/crying, but it's all over quickly and I don't think it's harmful at all. Have you tried just leaving? If DD cries for more than a few minutes, I go back in. I hardly ever need to go back in. 

    We do the same thing minus the boob. It sucked at first but now I can just put him in his crib, he grabs his football blanket or sea horse and falls asleep.


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  • Dd has a bunny lovey that we only give her when it's time to sleep. I seriously think it's her favorite party of the day! As soon as I lay her down I give her the bunny. The look on her face is pure joy. She almost always hugs it and rolls over to sleep right away.
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  • Dd has a bunny lovey that we only give her when it's time to sleep. I seriously think it's her favorite party of the day! As soon as I lay her down I give her the bunny. The look on her face is pure joy. She almost always hugs it and rolls over to sleep right away.

    This is us with elephant. He's has one in his crib, one at the babysitters for naps, and one in the car. Elephant is magical! Once the babysitter started using it everyday for naps I learned I could hand it to him at home and he no longer needed to nurse to sleep. It has been life changing!
  • We kept a crocheted blanket with me for a couple weeks and then gave it to dd for bed and naps. It made a big difference. FWIW I didn't do sleep training yet so she only fusses a few minutes before I get her.
    Also we moved her to her own room a couple of weeks ago which helped too. Previous to that her crib was in our room. Hugs to you and I hope some of the suggestions wil help you.
  • @MrsGiantPenis‌ This is currently happening in our house for nap time (like you bedtime is ok). George will nurse on the left boob easy and is nice about it, then he nurses maybe 5 mins on the right boob but then gets agitated and wants to be not touching me but somehow still nursing !?!?? I usually lay on the bed in the nursery and let him finish nursing and he falls asleep. Now the problem is I don't want to have to sit in the nursery or his nap everyday. I have a lyfe....soooooo One day I grabbed the changing table pad that had been collecting dust and laid it on the bed to nurse him on that. Then after he is asleep I just move the whole thing to his crib. Is this ideal?, hell to the no, but is it working for me right now, YUP!
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  • This is unconventional-- but could your LO be dropping a nap? DD stopped napping all together at 9 months.

    We've always napped "on the fly" (car seat & with me in the recliner). There is no frolicking here, but I do chores when they are awake.

    Alex cannot sleep in his crib. He just can't do it. So I gave up & just let him sleep in the car, the carrier with me or the recliner. He seems pretty happy & it works for us.

    Abby was the same way. My kids just refuse cribs. :-??


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  • I try to keep our routine pretty consistent. Wake up, 3 hours later is first nap, wake up, 3.5 hours later is 2nd nap. After months of this, he falls asleep immediately.

    We did do some CIO for naps, which I know you don't want to do, but I really think that consistency is key for their little bodies to realize it's sleep time.

    So maybe start there with some of the no cry sleep solution suggestions? Also, James loves his monkey lovey. He smiles when he sees it. :)
  • Does she have a nursery?  DD sleeps on a twin mattress in our room.  We are going to try to move it to her room this weekend.  We will put the crib mattress in our room for nighttime and the twin bed in her room for day time naps.  

    Here is some info on floor beds.  https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/montessori-floor-beds-baby-toddler-sleep/

    I wanted to do this vs a crib because I felt like the transition would be easier for her.  She has never slept in a crib or pack n play.  I liked the idea of the mattress on the floor because I could nurse her to sleep and not have to move her.  The idea with the floor bed is to make sure the room is completely babyproof (like you would feel comfortable taking a shower and baby couldn't get hurt).  If baby wakes up from her nap and crawls off the bed she could play with toys without getting hurt.  You can put a baby gate at the door to keep her in and allow that door to stay open.  You could do the same thing in your room.  Either use the crib mattress or a twin size.  

    Let me know if you want some more info. :)  I hope you find something that works.  It can be so frustrating.  Baby girl likes to crawl in circles now that she can roll over easier.  She tries to nurse in the most awkward and painful positions.  Its been a bit of an adjustment to try to get her to sleep. 
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  • ljs4117ljs4117 member
    I need to be more consistent with the lovey, I think..

    Anyway, DD cosleeps at night and often won't nap unless I lie down with her during the day (works for now because I always am in need of sleep, but things will be changing soon). The only way I've managed to get her to sleep in her PnP for naps (or at night for the first part of the night when we want to her to sleep and us to be awake) is to hold her down and rock her to sleep. I have to wait a few minutes to be sure she's sleeping well, then I put her in bed. It kinda sucks but it will do for now.

    I'm thinking I will try to implement a lovey because I would love to be able to put her down drowsy. That's what they're for, right @thegoodpotato‌ ?? S
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    Also, wanted to add that although she's a pretty good sleeper relatively.. She is sometimes a horror to get to sleep, and does not "self-soothe". I can put her down on the edge of sleep and she will pop up, stand at the edge of her PnP and scream bloody murder for a long time. I tried sitting with her and patting her back/bottom for a few minutes but she wouldn't lie down. Then nap time is pretty much ruined until later..

    Sounds like maybe we have a similar problem? Hopefully a lovey helps!! That's what I'm banking on for when new baby gets here.
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  • Pink724Pink724 member
    We have an Angel Dear lovey and I tie the blanket part in a knot - makes me feel better and she can get a better grip on it. It has helped her sleep tremendously.

    Good luck!
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