This is so sad

TittsMcGee · May 2014

A mom from California was arrested for stabbing her 3 daughters (ages 3,2 and 2 months).

Poor babies. Poor her. She was probably suffering from post partum psychosis.

Helenahhandbasket · May 2014

OMG. That's effing horrible.

TittsMcGee · May 2014

She called her MIL a little before stabbing them and told her "she was going crazy." She came by to check on them and found her naked and covered in blood holding a kitchen knife .
I just want to cry and pray for them.

JackoftheBox · May 2014

TittsMcGee said:

A mom from California was arrested for stabbing her 3 daughters (ages 3,2 and 2 months).
Poor babies. Poor her. She was probably suffering from post partum psychosis.

I read that this morning on MSN... it's terrible. It even said she had called her mom and said that she felt like she was going crazy.... no one helped apparently.

JackoftheBox · May 2014

TittsMcGee said:

She called her MIL a little before stabbing them and told her "she was going crazy." She came by to check on them and found her naked and covered in blood holding a kitchen knife . I just want to cry and pray for them.

Gosh excuse my note apparently you read it better than I!!

TittsMcGee · May 2014

JackoftheBox said:

TittsMcGee said:

She called her MIL a little before stabbing them and told her "she was going crazy." She came by to check on them and found her naked and covered in blood holding a kitchen knife . I just want to cry and pray for them.

Gosh excuse my note apparently you read it better than I!!

Her MIL came by to check on her but she was late.

I just cant imagine no one in the family thought that 3 kids, 3 years of age and under would be a little overwhelming for this poor woman. And the husband. Another Rusty Yates I see.

I am over reacting. As someone who has fought PPD and was laughed at by friends and family this irks me. I feel like people don't take PPD seriously until this happens.

JackoftheBox · May 2014

TittsMcGee said:

JackoftheBox said:

TittsMcGee said:

She called her MIL a little before stabbing them and told her "she was going crazy." She came by to check on them and found her naked and covered in blood holding a kitchen knife . I just want to cry and pray for them.

Gosh excuse my note apparently you read it better than I!!

Her MIL came by to check on her but she was late.
I just cant imagine no one in the family thought that 3 kids, 3 years of age and under would be a little overwhelming for this poor woman. And the husband. Another Rusty Yates I see.
I am over reacting. As someone who has fought PPD and was laughed at by friends and family this irks me. I feel like people don't take PPD seriously until this happens.

I was diagnosed with it as well. Many family members and sometimes even my husband would say "it's just being a new mom that is stressful you will get use to it."

It's terrible that she didn't reach out for help on her own before she hit her breaking point.

TittsMcGee · May 2014

JackoftheBox said:
I was diagnosed with it as well. Many family members and sometimes even my husband would say "it's just being a new mom that is stressful you will get use to it."

It's terrible that she didn't reach out for help on her own before she hit her breaking point.

My mom and my husband said the same thing. Its irritating and stressful when no one understands.

Its so sad.

Myaflowers · May 2014

I had PPD too. This is so sad, and it could happen to anyone.

PB102012 · May 2014

This makes me sick to my stomach to even think about. Ugh. Those poor babies.

KS02CS08 · May 2014

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

gwendarling · May 2014

this is so absolutely heartbreaking.

did you guys read about how she called her mom and said she was going crazy - that morning?! and her mom came by to see the kids and found their bodies in the bed with her. and husband outside fixing his car. ugh. I just cannot imagine.

also, this is in the same area I work in.

Myaflowers · May 2014

KS02CS08 said:

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

Sadly, the all 3 died.

So heartbreaking.

KS02CS08 · May 2014

Myaflowers said:

KS02CS08 said:

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

Sadly, the all 3 died.

So heartbreaking.

Ya I looked up the story after since I really wanted to know what happened. I can't believe someone would do this when so many people cant have babies.

TittsMcGee · May 2014

@gwendarling it was her mom, I read somewhere it was the MiL. now they're saying the kids were 3, 1 and 2 months. This lady has been pregnant for the past 3 years. She didn't get a break at all!! It's such a sad situation all around. What sucks is that no one realized this poor woman needed some help with 3 young kids.

Myaflowers · May 2014

KS02CS08 said:

KS02CS08 said:

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

Sadly, the all 3 died. So heartbreaking.
Ya I looked up the story after since I really wanted to know what happened. I can't believe someone would do this when so many people cant have babies.

My guess would be that she had postpartum psychosis. It's heartbreaking because she called her mom and told her she was going crazy, but the mom didn't make it there in time. There really needs to be more education about postpartum psychosis. I had PPD and my OB and mom (psych nurse) both asked me if I ever thought about hurting myself or the baby. I'm a mental health counselor myself and appreciated that they were willing to ask that. I never had thoughts about hurting DD, but I think it's very important to be upfront and ask those questions so that women get the help they need before tragedy strikes.

gwendarling · May 2014

KS02CS08 said:

KS02CS08 said:

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

Sadly, the all 3 died. So heartbreaking.
Ya I looked up the story after since I really wanted to know what happened. I can't believe someone would do this when so many people cant have babies.

With all due respect, I feel that sentence is a bit problematic and misses the point. I don't think this mother did this as a form of birth control or because she wasn't thankful for her kids. It really sounded like post partum psychosis or ppd.

TittsMcGee · May 2014

gwendarling said:
With all due respect, I feel that sentence is a bit problematic and misses the point. I don't think this mother did this as a form of birth control or because she wasn't thankful for her kids. It really sounded like post partum psychosis or ppd.

I agree with this. It was most definitely postpartum psychosis. Andrea Yates suffered from it too and killed 5 of her kids.

There was a mom who attempted to drown her kids by driving the mini van into the ocean. She said she was hearing voices that told her she needed to save her kids.

My heart breaks for this poor woman because she suffered in silence.

gwendarling · May 2014

TittsMcGee said:

gwendarling said:
With all due respect, I feel that sentence is a bit problematic and misses the point. I don't think this mother did this as a form of birth control or because she wasn't thankful for her kids. It really sounded like post partum psychosis or ppd.

I agree with this. It was most definitely postpartum psychosis. Andrea Yates suffered from it too and killed 5 of her kids.
There was a mom who attempted to drown her kids by driving the mini van into the ocean. She said she was hearing voices that told her she needed to save her kids.
My heart breaks for this poor woman because she suffered in silence.

It seems like the suffering in silence part is a huge piece of it. There are so many things with PPD/PPA/PPP - people don't take it seriously enough, people see it as a sign of weakness or as a sign of a lesser mother, people only see isolated markers and don't ask any more questions, people don't get the help they need - even help with their babies, housework, etc.

I felt so alone after my daughter was born, I wish I could've talked to more people who went through something similar. The worst is having people just be all dismissive of your baby blues or even talking about how having a newborn is the best thing in the world.

An ex-coworker who had moved to another country had a baby about 9 months after I did, and I remember reading her FB posts and updates and seeing the same emptiness/inability to connect/wanting things to go back to the way things were that I had been through, and I reached out to her even though it had been years, and we started talking about what she was going through and what I had gone through. She went to her doctor, got the help she needed, and got better. It is SO important to look out for ANY sign of PPD and then start asking questions/talking about it.

TittsMcGee · May 2014

@gwendarling when DS was born I probably spent an entire month crying every single day. After H went back to work it was just the two of us. DS was colicky and when he cried I would cry with him too.

I wish I would have researched PPD more or spoken to my doctor about it. I had no one to talk to about it. I definitely felt like I would be judged and side eyed for saying I didn't know what I was doing or asked for help.

hopefulmom81 · May 2014

Myaflowers said:

KS02CS08 said:

KS02CS08 said:

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

Sadly, the all 3 died. So heartbreaking.
Ya I looked up the story after since I really wanted to know what happened. I can't believe someone would do this when so many people cant have babies.

My guess would be that she had postpartum psychosis. It's heartbreaking because she called her mom and told her she was going crazy, but the mom didn't make it there in time. There really needs to be more education about postpartum psychosis. I had PPD and my OB and mom (psych nurse) both asked me if I ever thought about hurting myself or the baby. I'm a mental health counselor myself and appreciated that they were willing to ask that. I never had thoughts about hurting DD, but I think it's very important to be upfront and ask those questions so that women get the help they need before tragedy strikes.

I 100% agree, but I am always left wondering how many women would be honest that they had those thoughts? I think many women would suffer silently and lie to the doctor.

I have had countless friends discuss having some form of PPD/PPA, and they always say, "Oh, but I am not thinking of hurting the baby or anything" as a qualifier. Every.single.time.

TittsMcGee · May 2014

hopefulmom81 said:
I 100% agree, but I am always left wondering how many women would be honest that they had those thoughts? I think many women would suffer silently and lie to the doctor.

I have had countless friends discuss having some form of PPD/PPA, and they always say, "Oh, but I am not thinking of hurting the baby or anything" as a qualifier. Every.single.time.

I've thought about hurting myself not DS. Although I cant remember all the details but there were times I had to walk away from him because he would cry and I couldn't do anything to comfort him. I would tell myself to count to 10 and walk away and calm down.

Its just such a dark place to be and I don't wish it upon anyone. I read somewhere that 25% of women suffer from post partum depression but the number is much much higher considering that many women, including myself never said anything about it.

gwendarling · May 2014

TittsMcGee said:

hopefulmom81 said:
I 100% agree, but I am always left wondering how many women would be honest that they had those thoughts? I think many women would suffer silently and lie to the doctor.

I have had countless friends discuss having some form of PPD/PPA, and they always say, "Oh, but I am not thinking of hurting the baby or anything" as a qualifier. Every.single.time.

I've thought about hurting myself not DS. Although I cant remember all the details but there were times I had to walk away from him because he would cry and I couldn't do anything to comfort him. I would tell myself to count to 10 and walk away and calm down.
Its just such a dark place to be and I don't wish it upon anyone. I read somewhere that 25% of women suffer from post partum depression but the number is much much higher considering that many women, including myself never said anything about it.

When I was IN it, I didn't see that I was affected by it, but there were times when I would question whether I would just stop taking care of DD because I didn't want to anymore or just maybe can I walk away and go back to my old life, etc and THOSE were times when I would actually start questioning whether I was going through some sort of depression. But the rest of the time was just anxiety overload, insistence on not sleeping, and lots of feeling of disconnect from everyone and especially the baby. Like watching a movie of my life and I just wanted it to stop and go back home. So, I think even though a woman says they wouldn't hurt their baby, they may not realize it's happening to them... and that they need help. I think with the right questions and the right dialog, we can get people the help they need without making people feel like they're monsters.

Divallyn · May 2014

I know I could get attacked for this but if she had PPP then I truly from the bottom of my heart feel terribly sorry for this women. She is going to have to live with this for the rest of her life. Her babies are in heaven but she is stuck here and will tormented every single day. I wish her family members would of been able to recognize the signs of would of gotten her help.

Myaflowers · May 2014

Divallyn said:

I know I could get attacked for this but if she had PPP then I truly from the bottom of my heart feel terribly sorry for this women. She is going to have to live with this for the rest of her life. Her babies are in heaven but she is stuck here and will tormented every single day. I wish her family members would of been able to recognize the signs of would of gotten her help.

I feel the same way. If it were me, I would want to be dead rather than live with what I'd done. It's so sad and scary because it could happen to any woman PP.

[Deleted User] · May 2014

gwendarling said:

KS02CS08 said:

KS02CS08 said:

What happened to the babies? are they okay?

Sadly, the all 3 died. So heartbreaking.
Ya I looked up the story after since I really wanted to know what happened. I can't believe someone would do this when so many people cant have babies.

With all due respect, I feel that sentence is a bit problematic and misses the point. I don't think this mother did this as a form of birth control or because she wasn't thankful for her kids. It really sounded like post partum psychosis or ppd.

I think this is a common reaction. Many people don't understand mental illness because it is just so hush hush. I certainly didn't until I suffered from it myself. Now I feel the way many of you do - that poor woman needed help, and her poor babies suffered because she didn't get it. So tragic, it breaks my heart.

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