I think it should mandatory that students (particularly 4-12 grade) should take part in an extracurricular activity. Whether it's a club, sport or outside the realm of school. It can be anything from taking lessons for a musical instrument to karate to dance to girl or boy scouts. I feel like it is a HUGE benefit to children and teaches them a whole host of things, whether it's responsibility, confidence, or just good sportsmanship.
My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job.
Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
@nnikki10 That's a great one! I agree. I've just come to terms with police officers recently and I don't know why it took me this long. My mom instilled fear/hate in me because she always played them as the bad guys (not her drinking problem, of course). Whether it was a ticket for driving (no seat belt) or being arrested for disturbing the peace (being drunk out in our neighborhood YELLING at the cop that lived across the street no less). She always told me they were the problem.
I think it took me this long because I also never came in contact with them (no tickets/infractions). But more recently DH owns a restaurant where the local cops ALWAYS eat and we befriended a couple. Just regular people.
@pwhoskins UO= unpopular opinion
My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job.
Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
You win on this one....One of my BIGGEST pet peeves (up there with the "I pay your salary" comments we get) is that Im going to arrest their children. Their eyes get all big when I look them in the eye and sternly ask them not to instill fear of the police in their innocent child. Then I drop to a knee eye level with the child and talk to them about some new toy or TV show or something and give them one of our badge stickers or more if I have it. It bothers me so much that parents don't realize the damage they are doing and often times its because of them that 10 -15 years later we are chasing that kid proving their parents right.
@pwhoskins exactly.. I usually look at the parents and just say " NO, I'm not arresting your 5 year old." and look at the kid and give them a sticker and ask them what they want to be when they grow up.
OK so Im often called a shit stirrer by my DW because I often post my opinions (usually political) on FB and many of my friends are much more liberal than I am. Its great because we actually get in good debates.
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
However, when I used to push a black & white around, I would often get called by parents to handle their "Out of Control" kids, or if thats not the case, I would get called by the child, usually in an age range between 11 and 16 years old claiming "Child Abuse". Well I dealt with this with a very Unpopular Opinion of the parents or the child. I had no problem jumping the kids shit that was acting up. Then I would pull mom or dad aside and let them know that they can't wait until a child is in their teens to start a method of discipline, but rather it needs to start at a young age and to teach them respect for those older than them. On the flip side, when a minor would call claiming child abuse, I would search all avenues for ANY type of child abuse. In the cases where mom and dad are afraid that they will get arrested for child abuse therefore they never spank and rather try to use alternate discipline that is not working, then finally turn to spanking I will let that kid know that if they don't straighten up and do as their parents say, I will come back and watch as they get their spanking and stop mom or dad just shy of crossing the limit to abuse. Their eyes usually get huge in disbelief that I actually will support their parents and not take them away. Only one time did the child press the limit and want to talk to my supervisor and report me. My sergeant who had my back came out and explained the the child that there is nothing illegal with spanking and he would let the parents discipline in an appropriate manner.
Disclaimer: although I would use these tactics, they were more of a scare tactic that were very effective. I have never actually watched a parent spank their child to the limit border-lining child abuse. It was usually effective because the child realized the police are on the side of the parents and that the child cannot run the roost.
@pwhoskins UO= unpopular opinion
My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job.
Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
I was having lunch at a sub shop and for some reason the lady working the counter had brought her young daughter (maybe 4 years old?) to the shop. The daughter was sitting at a table, playing with her things. The mom brought her over some lunch and a few minutes later the girl spilled the drink. The mom then started telling her she was going to call the police if she didn't clean it up right away. The poor girl was in TEARS! She was seriously panicing that her mom was going to call the cops. The mom said it several times too. It broke my heart!!!
@pwhoskins I completely agree that parents have to start discipline at a young age and be consistent. Whether or not I believe in spanking, is another story, but the fact that you've gotten called out to these types of situations drive me nuts. Of course I can see the side that possible abuse should be clearly investigated but the fact that parents aren't able to control their children or their children are trying to "rule the roost" like you said is unbelievable to me. I don't know what it is about this generation that is so different (entitlement, maybe?), but kids seem like they lack serious respect for ANYONE including themselves. Of course that's a generalization and there are some great kids out there, but it seems like it's an overwhelming amount of kids that are disrespectful.
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
@pwhoskins UO= unpopular opinion
My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job.
Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
I was having lunch at a sub shop and for some reason the lady working the counter had brought her young daughter (maybe 4 years old?) to the shop. The daughter was sitting at a table, playing with her things. The mom brought her over some lunch and a few minutes later the girl spilled the drink. The mom then started telling her she was going to call the police if she didn't clean it up right away. The poor girl was in TEARS! She was seriously panicing that her mom was going to call the cops. The mom said it several times too. It broke my heart!!!
OK so Im often called a shit stirrer by my DW because I often post my opinions (usually political) on FB and many of my friends are much more liberal than I am. Its great because we actually get in good debates.
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
However, when I used to push a black & white around, I would often get called by parents to handle their "Out of Control" kids, or if thats not the case, I would get called by the child, usually in an age range between 11 and 16 years old claiming "Child Abuse". Well I dealt with this with a very Unpopular Opinion of the parents or the child. I had no problem jumping the kids shit that was acting up. Then I would pull mom or dad aside and let them know that they can't wait until a child is in their teens to start a method of discipline, but rather it needs to start at a young age and to teach them respect for those older than them. On the flip side, when a minor would call claiming child abuse, I would search all avenues for ANY type of child abuse. In the cases where mom and dad are afraid that they will get arrested for child abuse therefore they never spank and rather try to use alternate discipline that is not working, then finally turn to spanking I will let that kid know that if they don't straighten up and do as their parents say, I will come back and watch as they get their spanking and stop mom or dad just shy of crossing the limit to abuse. Their eyes usually get huge in disbelief that I actually will support their parents and not take them away. Only one time did the child press the limit and want to talk to my supervisor and report me. My sergeant who had my back came out and explained the the child that there is nothing illegal with spanking and he would let the parents discipline in an appropriate manner.
Disclaimer: although I would use these tactics, they were more of a scare tactic that were very effective. I have never actually watched a parent spank their child to the limit border-lining child abuse. It was usually effective because the child realized the police are on the side of the parents and that the child cannot run the roost.
This may start a shit storm. This board tends to try and avoid highly controversial topics like this. Just a fair warning that this may not go over well. That being said, each person does as they see fit. Whatever works for you. I am not going to add my opinion, how I choose to discipline my kids is how I see fit.
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
OK so Im often called a shit stirrer by my DW because I often post my opinions (usually political) on FB and many of my friends are much more liberal than I am. Its great because we actually get in good debates.
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
However, when I used to push a black & white around, I would often get called by parents to handle their "Out of Control" kids, or if thats not the case, I would get called by the child, usually in an age range between 11 and 16 years old claiming "Child Abuse". Well I dealt with this with a very Unpopular Opinion of the parents or the child. I had no problem jumping the kids shit that was acting up. Then I would pull mom or dad aside and let them know that they can't wait until a child is in their teens to start a method of discipline, but rather it needs to start at a young age and to teach them respect for those older than them. On the flip side, when a minor would call claiming child abuse, I would search all avenues for ANY type of child abuse. In the cases where mom and dad are afraid that they will get arrested for child abuse therefore they never spank and rather try to use alternate discipline that is not working, then finally turn to spanking I will let that kid know that if they don't straighten up and do as their parents say, I will come back and watch as they get their spanking and stop mom or dad just shy of crossing the limit to abuse. Their eyes usually get huge in disbelief that I actually will support their parents and not take them away. Only one time did the child press the limit and want to talk to my supervisor and report me. My sergeant who had my back came out and explained the the child that there is nothing illegal with spanking and he would let the parents discipline in an appropriate manner.
Disclaimer: although I would use these tactics, they were more of a scare tactic that were very effective. I have never actually watched a parent spank their child to the limit border-lining child abuse. It was usually effective because the child realized the police are on the side of the parents and that the child cannot run the roost.
jic, and good for your mom, wth were you thinking??
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
I agree with @v&g101808 I'm cool with @pwhoskins being here as long as @pb102012 is cool with it. I don't think it's creepy at all. It's nice to have a new face. @truebeliever925 this gif made me think of you!!
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
@pwhoskins did you just say you "swatted" your 9 month old?
Yes I did. And no it wasn't a spanking or anything that was painful just something that got LO's attention as she keeps trying to touch the glass of the fireplace and I don't want her to burn her hand. And when I say on the butt, I meant a fully diapered and clothed butt.
That being said, my wife corrected my actions and explained to me that our LO probably doesn't know why she was swatted or that it was even me. She also shared a couple of articles that gave good examples of discipline at this age such as saying No and Redirecting her attention.
She a good mom and definitely has no problem putting me in my place. It was only once that I did this, and have not done it since. As a first time dad and not really being around other babies, I didn't think about what could be wrong with doing that.
@nnikki10 I just watched Whip It the other day! I decided I'd bust it out and see if there was anything I could learn. Of course not, but it was worth it. I love that movie. My derby name is not near as good as any of theirs in the movie but you also have to register your name so being unique is a good thing
To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.
@pwhoskins - do you honestly think your 9 month old understands a spanking? The point of punishments is to help your child understand what they did wrong, why it's wrong and to give them incentive not to do it again. No infant can comprehend the depth of that. Which is why a firm "no" usually gets the point across.
And fwiw I was spanked as a child and it severely damaged my relationship with my parents. I was scared of them, I didn't respect them. Why should someone you trust hit you? Because that's exactly what it is... Hitting. It's hypocritical to teach your child not to hit (even when wronged by someone) and then to hit them when they've "wronged" you.
The spanking topic is definitely a way to spice up UO Thursday.
@Revez I'm sorry you went through that as a child and that you suffered greatly from it.
I'm on the other end of that though... I was spanked and it really didn't have any negative impact on me or my relationship with my parents. My dad did all the spanking and I will say he hit hard (with a very small stick that whizzed as it went through the air). It hurt but when he explained why I was getting hit I understood not to do X again... and it worked (for me).
I know it's not the case with everyone but because I didn't have a negative experience, I am not against spanking. So I guess that's my UO.
@pwhoskins you say that you think spanking is ok and you believe in disciplining your child and if that includes spanking then OK. But then you say you read the information your wife gave you and say you didn't know what could be wrong with spanking (but now you do, at least that's the assumption I make). So, which is it? You're contradicting yourself.
@pwhoskins - do you honestly think your 9 month old understands a spanking? The point of punishments is to help your child understand what they did wrong, why it's wrong and to give them incentive not to do it again. No infant can comprehend the depth of that. Which is why a firm "no" usually gets the point across.
And fwiw I was spanked as a child and it severely damaged my relationship with my parents. I was scared of them, I didn't respect them. Why should someone you trust hit you? Because that's exactly what it is... Hitting. It's hypocritical to teach your child not to hit (even when wronged by someone) and then to hit them when they've "wronged" you.
Here are some articles if you're interested:
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED377989.pdfhttps://m.therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_results.php?city=Calgary&state=AB&spec=181
Sorry ladies... The topic hits home.
I fully had intentions of staying out of this debate but I was "disciplined" very harshly as a child and I am perfectly fine. It didn't "damage" my relationship. I think many of my very close friends were all spanked as children and are perfectly fine. I don't find it hypocritical at all. Disciplining is totally different from picking a fight with another kid. Not even the same context.
@Soleil3 What is that you do for a living? So someone can make a funny joke at you too.
I'm a professional croissant connoisseur, dog and baby walker, and mocker of creepy men who talk about masturbation on a board for women on forums. It doesn't pay much, but what can I say, I love my work
The spanking topic is definitely a way to spice up UO Thursday.
@Revez I'm sorry you went through that as a child and that you suffered greatly from it.
I'm on the other end of that though... I was spanked and it really didn't have any negative impact on me or my relationship with my parents. My dad did all the spanking and I will say he hit hard (with a very small stick that whizzed as it went through the air). It hurt but when he explained why I was getting hit I understood not to do X again... and it worked (for me).
I know it's not the case with everyone but because I didn't have a negative experience, I am not against spanking. So I guess that's my UO.
Re: UO Thursday
My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job.
Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
We had this same conversation (we, the board) when another dad tried to join while we were all pregnant.
Oh yea, talking about "swatting" your 9 month old is REEEEAAAAAALLLLLY stirring the pot.
Uh huh.
@truebeliever925 this gif made me think of you!!
Thus trend needs to go away, i dont love ombres, but girls need to stop shaving part of their head.
ETA: and if the donuts reference is a cop reference you can fuck yourself!
Yes I did. And no it wasn't a spanking or anything that was painful just something that got LO's attention as she keeps trying to touch the glass of the fireplace and I don't want her to burn her hand. And when I say on the butt, I meant a fully diapered and clothed butt.
And fwiw I was spanked as a child and it severely damaged my relationship with my parents. I was scared of them, I didn't respect them. Why should someone you trust hit you? Because that's exactly what it is... Hitting. It's hypocritical to teach your child not to hit (even when wronged by someone) and then to hit them when they've "wronged" you.
Here are some articles if you're interested:
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED377989.pdf
https://m.therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_results.php?city=Calgary&state=AB&spec=181
Sorry ladies... The topic hits home.
@Revez I'm sorry you went through that as a child and that you suffered greatly from it.
I'm on the other end of that though... I was spanked and it really didn't have any negative impact on me or my relationship with my parents. My dad did all the spanking and I will say he hit hard (with a very small stick that whizzed as it went through the air). It hurt but when he explained why I was getting hit I understood not to do X again... and it worked (for me).
I know it's not the case with everyone but because I didn't have a negative experience, I am not against spanking. So I guess that's my UO.