August 2013 Moms

UO Thursday

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  • @pwhoskins exactly.. I usually look at the parents and just say " NO, I'm not arresting your 5 year old." and look at the kid and give them a sticker and ask them what they want to be when they grow up.
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  • OK so Im often called a shit stirrer by my DW because I often post my opinions (usually political) on FB and many of my friends are much more liberal than I am. Its great because we actually get in good debates.

    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    However, when I used to push a black & white around, I would often get called by parents to handle their "Out of Control" kids, or if thats not the case, I would get called by the child, usually in an age range between 11 and 16 years old claiming "Child Abuse". Well I dealt with this with a very Unpopular Opinion of the parents or the child. I had no problem jumping the kids shit that was acting up. Then I would pull mom or dad aside and let them know that they can't wait until a child is in their teens to start a method of discipline, but rather it needs to start at a young age and to teach them respect for those older than them. On the flip side, when a minor would call claiming child abuse, I would search all avenues for ANY type of child abuse. In the cases where mom and dad are afraid that they will get arrested for child abuse therefore they never spank and rather try to use alternate discipline that is not working, then finally turn to spanking I will let that kid know that if they don't straighten up and do as their parents say, I will come back and watch as they get their spanking and stop mom or dad just shy of crossing the limit to abuse. Their eyes usually get huge in disbelief that I actually will support their parents and not take them away. Only one time did the child press the limit and want to talk to my supervisor and report me. My sergeant who had my back came out and explained the the child that there is nothing illegal with spanking and he would let the parents discipline in an appropriate manner.

    Disclaimer: although I would use these tactics, they were more of a scare tactic that were very effective. I have never actually watched a parent spank their child to the limit border-lining child abuse. It was usually effective because the child realized the police are on the side of the parents and that the child cannot run the roost. 
  • V&G101808V&G101808 member
    edited May 2014
    nnikki10 said:
    @pwhoskins‌ UO= unpopular opinion My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job. Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
    I was having lunch at a sub shop and for some reason the lady working the counter had brought her young daughter (maybe 4 years old?) to the shop.  The daughter was sitting at a table, playing with her things.  The mom brought her over some lunch and a few minutes later the girl spilled the drink.  The mom then started telling her she was going to call the police if she didn't clean it up right away.  The poor girl was in TEARS! She was seriously panicing that her mom was going to call the cops.  The mom said it several times too.  It broke my heart!!! :(
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  • @pwhoskins I completely agree that parents have to start discipline at a young age and be consistent. Whether or not I believe in spanking, is another story, but the fact that you've gotten called out to these types of situations drive me nuts. Of course I can see the side that possible abuse should be clearly investigated but the fact that parents aren't able to control their children or their children are trying to "rule the roost" like you said is unbelievable to me. I don't know what it is about this generation that is so different (entitlement, maybe?), but kids seem like they lack serious respect for ANYONE including themselves. Of course that's a generalization and there are some great kids out there, but it seems like it's an overwhelming amount of kids that are disrespectful. 



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  • Soleil3Soleil3 member
    pwhoskins said:


    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    blah blah blah corporal punishment blah blah police blah blah 
    Fixed that for you. 
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  • V&G101808 said:
    nnikki10 said:
    @pwhoskins‌ UO= unpopular opinion My UO: DO not tell your children that I ( police officer) will arrest them when you see me. Don't teach your children to fear and hate me. Teach them to respect us. We don't punish children that's the parents job. Eta: this happened 4 separate times yesterday with children 6 and under.
    I was having lunch at a sub shop and for some reason the lady working the counter had brought her young daughter (maybe 4 years old?) to the shop.  The daughter was sitting at a table, playing with her things.  The mom brought her over some lunch and a few minutes later the girl spilled the drink.  The mom then started telling her she was going to call the police if she didn't clean it up right away.  The poor girl was in TEARS! She was seriously panicing that her mom was going to call the cops.  The mom said it several times too.  It broke my heart!!! :(
    Whhhhat?! That's AWFUL. :( Poor little girl! 



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  • pwhoskins said:
    OK so Im often called a shit stirrer by my DW because I often post my opinions (usually political) on FB and many of my friends are much more liberal than I am. Its great because we actually get in good debates.

    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    However, when I used to push a black & white around, I would often get called by parents to handle their "Out of Control" kids, or if thats not the case, I would get called by the child, usually in an age range between 11 and 16 years old claiming "Child Abuse". Well I dealt with this with a very Unpopular Opinion of the parents or the child. I had no problem jumping the kids shit that was acting up. Then I would pull mom or dad aside and let them know that they can't wait until a child is in their teens to start a method of discipline, but rather it needs to start at a young age and to teach them respect for those older than them. On the flip side, when a minor would call claiming child abuse, I would search all avenues for ANY type of child abuse. In the cases where mom and dad are afraid that they will get arrested for child abuse therefore they never spank and rather try to use alternate discipline that is not working, then finally turn to spanking I will let that kid know that if they don't straighten up and do as their parents say, I will come back and watch as they get their spanking and stop mom or dad just shy of crossing the limit to abuse. Their eyes usually get huge in disbelief that I actually will support their parents and not take them away. Only one time did the child press the limit and want to talk to my supervisor and report me. My sergeant who had my back came out and explained the the child that there is nothing illegal with spanking and he would let the parents discipline in an appropriate manner.

    Disclaimer: although I would use these tactics, they were more of a scare tactic that were very effective. I have never actually watched a parent spank their child to the limit border-lining child abuse. It was usually effective because the child realized the police are on the side of the parents and that the child cannot run the roost. 
    This may start a shit storm. This board tends to try and avoid highly controversial topics like this. Just a fair warning that this may not go over well. That being said, each person does as they see fit. Whatever works for you. I am not going to add my opinion, how I choose to discipline my kids is how I see fit. 
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  • Soleil3Soleil3 member
    pwhoskins said:
    OK so Im often called a shit stirrer by my DW because I often post my opinions (usually political) on FB and many of my friends are much more liberal than I am. Its great because we actually get in good debates.

    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    However, when I used to push a black & white around, I would often get called by parents to handle their "Out of Control" kids, or if thats not the case, I would get called by the child, usually in an age range between 11 and 16 years old claiming "Child Abuse". Well I dealt with this with a very Unpopular Opinion of the parents or the child. I had no problem jumping the kids shit that was acting up. Then I would pull mom or dad aside and let them know that they can't wait until a child is in their teens to start a method of discipline, but rather it needs to start at a young age and to teach them respect for those older than them. On the flip side, when a minor would call claiming child abuse, I would search all avenues for ANY type of child abuse. In the cases where mom and dad are afraid that they will get arrested for child abuse therefore they never spank and rather try to use alternate discipline that is not working, then finally turn to spanking I will let that kid know that if they don't straighten up and do as their parents say, I will come back and watch as they get their spanking and stop mom or dad just shy of crossing the limit to abuse. Their eyes usually get huge in disbelief that I actually will support their parents and not take them away. Only one time did the child press the limit and want to talk to my supervisor and report me. My sergeant who had my back came out and explained the the child that there is nothing illegal with spanking and he would let the parents discipline in an appropriate manner.

    Disclaimer: although I would use these tactics, they were more of a scare tactic that were very effective. I have never actually watched a parent spank their child to the limit border-lining child abuse. It was usually effective because the child realized the police are on the side of the parents and that the child cannot run the roost. 
    jic, and good for your mom, wth were you thinking??
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  • @pwhoskins‌ did you just say you "swatted" your 9 month old?

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  • Soleil3Soleil3 member
    V&G101808 said:
    Soleil3 said:
    pwhoskins said:


    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    blah blah blah corporal punishment blah blah police blah blah 
    Fixed that for you. 
    I guess it's a UO that I don't think it's creepy to have a dad on the board?  If PB is OK with having Mr. PB here, it's no big deal to me.

    We had this same conversation (we, the board) when another dad tried to join while we were all pregnant.
    I remember. And he was creepy as fuck too. 
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  • Soleil3Soleil3 member
    pwhoskins said:


    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    blah blah blah corporal punishment blah blah police blah blah 
    Fixed that for you. 
    :-q Really?
    Yes, really. Its TB, the bump is for the baby, not beer or donuts. Its creepy. 
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  • I'm with V&G. I don't think it's creepy. And if Mr. PB stirs the pot, more power to him, because we are boring as FUCK lately. :D


    Oh yea, talking about "swatting" your 9 month old is REEEEAAAAAALLLLLY stirring the pot.

    Uh huh.
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  • I'm with V&G. I don't think it's creepy. And if Mr. PB stirs the pot, more power to him, because we are boring as FUCK lately. :D
    Oh yea, talking about "swatting" your 9 month old is REEEEAAAAAALLLLLY stirring the pot. Uh huh.
    It's better than nothing.  :-??



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  • My uo is that shaving part of your head is only cute/sexy on less then 1% of the population. If you are not in that .5% you look trashy.

    Thus trend needs to go away, i dont love ombres, but girls need to stop shaving part of their head.
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  • @PB102012‌ oh, hunny. I don't blame you at all.
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  • @pwhoskins‌ did you just say you "swatted" your 9 month old?
    Yes I did. And no it wasn't a spanking or anything that was painful just something that got LO's attention as she keeps trying to touch the glass of the fireplace and I don't want her to burn her hand. And when I say on the butt, I meant a fully diapered and clothed butt.

    That being said, my wife corrected my actions and explained to me that our LO probably doesn't know why she was swatted or that it was even me. She also shared a couple of articles that gave good examples of discipline at this age such as saying No and Redirecting her attention.

    She a good mom and definitely has no problem putting me in my place. It was only once that I did this, and have not done it since. As a first time dad and not really being around other babies, I didn't think about what could be wrong with doing that.
  • @nnikki10 I just watched Whip It the other day! I decided I'd bust it out and see if there was anything I could learn. Of course not, but it was worth it. I love that movie. My derby name is not near as good as any of theirs in the movie but you also have to register your name so being unique is a good thing :) 



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  • @CaliforniaDream87 I know. I seriously heart you. :x

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  • Soleil3Soleil3 member
    edited May 2014
    nnikki10 said:
    Soleil3 said:
    pwhoskins said:


    To go along with what @nnikki10 said, mine has to do with parenting and discipline. At the risk of the disapproval of parents (well moms here as it appears Im the only dad brave creepy enough to chat on A13) I firmly believe in disciplining my child which will include a spanking if needed. Now I swatted our LO once on the butt and got my ass handed to me by mom, not that she disagrees with spanking but that LO is to young. I understood and took a different approach.

    blah blah blah corporal punishment blah blah police blah blah 
    Fixed that for you. 
    :-q Really?
    Yes, really. Its TB, the bump is for the baby, not beer or donuts. Its creepy. 
    Does a dad not take care of the baby too??

    ETA: and if the donuts reference is a cop reference you can fuck yourself!
    The Bump.
    #gavel.

    And yes, it totally was. A funny cop reference at that :)
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  • RevezRevez member
    @pwhoskins‌ - do you honestly think your 9 month old understands a spanking? The point of punishments is to help your child understand what they did wrong, why it's wrong and to give them incentive not to do it again. No infant can comprehend the depth of that. Which is why a firm "no" usually gets the point across.

    And fwiw I was spanked as a child and it severely damaged my relationship with my parents. I was scared of them, I didn't respect them. Why should someone you trust hit you? Because that's exactly what it is... Hitting. It's hypocritical to teach your child not to hit (even when wronged by someone) and then to hit them when they've "wronged" you.

    Here are some articles if you're interested:

    https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED377989.pdf

    https://m.therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_results.php?city=Calgary&state=AB&spec=181


    Sorry ladies... The topic hits home.

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  • @Soleil3 What is that you do for a living? So someone can make a funny joke at you too. 



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  • @pwhoskins you say that you think spanking is ok and you believe in disciplining your child and if that includes spanking then OK.  But then you say you read the information your wife gave you and say you didn't know what could be wrong with spanking (but now you do, at least that's the assumption I make).  So, which is it?  You're contradicting yourself.
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  • @Revez I am so sorry you went through that. I am sending massive hugs your way.

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  • Revez said:
    @pwhoskins‌ - do you honestly think your 9 month old understands a spanking? The point of punishments is to help your child understand what they did wrong, why it's wrong and to give them incentive not to do it again. No infant can comprehend the depth of that. Which is why a firm "no" usually gets the point across. And fwiw I was spanked as a child and it severely damaged my relationship with my parents. I was scared of them, I didn't respect them. Why should someone you trust hit you? Because that's exactly what it is... Hitting. It's hypocritical to teach your child not to hit (even when wronged by someone) and then to hit them when they've "wronged" you. Here are some articles if you're interested: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED377989.pdf https://m.therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_results.php?city=Calgary&state=AB&spec=181 Sorry ladies... The topic hits home.
    I fully had intentions of staying out of this debate but I was "disciplined" very harshly as a child and I am perfectly fine. It didn't "damage" my relationship. I think many of my very close friends were all spanked as children and are perfectly fine. I don't find it hypocritical at all. Disciplining is totally different from picking a fight with another kid. Not even the same context.
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  • V&G101808 said:
    The spanking topic is definitely a way to spice up UO Thursday.

    @Revez I'm sorry you went through that as a child and that you suffered greatly from it.

    I'm on the other end of that though... I was spanked and it really didn't have any negative impact on me or my relationship with my parents.  My dad did all the spanking and I will say he hit hard (with a very small stick that whizzed as it went through the air).  It hurt but when he explained why I was getting hit I understood not to do X again... and it worked (for me).

    I know it's not the case with everyone but because I didn't have a negative experience, I am not against spanking.  So I guess that's my UO.
    Agreed.
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  • I heart @Soleil3‌

             

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  • I'm sorry @revez that you went through that. :( 



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