LGBT Parenting

LGBTQ Multiples Check-In (maybe? weigh in)

ManadaManada member
edited May 2014 in LGBT Parenting
Some people mentioned in the other thread I started that they'd be into having a multiples check-in. I've considered it before myself, but also didn't want to distract from our awesome Pregnancy/Parenting check-ins as a group, or the other group things.... that said - there are a few of us, so maybe?

My impetus today was mostly me getting mad at my Baby Center app for telling me I may be in that place where I'm "too big for my regular clothes and too small for maternity clothes" - Uh NOOOO, you're about 10 weeks too late on that one BC, with your singleton-bias and no options to customize!

Plus I sort of get a kick out of making polls and it's a bit slow in my office today....

What do you guys think? Put yer comments below!
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queer couple - 32 (me) & 33 (my love) years old - donor sperm,

Our IF/TTC journey since Nov 2012.

Me: dx of DOR in Nov. 2012. Low AMH, AFC - 6, Normal FSH, SS-A (RO) Antibodies (Autoimmune issues), tubes clear, Sono (November 2013) NORMAL! <p>

7 IUI's - December 2012-September 2013.  Medicated, Injected, Triggered.... all BFN.

My Love:  (the amazing @Healz413)
Normal AMH & FSH, AFC ~27, blocked tube dx'd via HSG in 2012.   Hydrosalpinx & ovarian cyst dx'd in May 2013.
dx of Stage IV Endo & bilateral salpinectomy in June 2013.  

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Partner IVF#1a- December 2013 - H's eggs, my Ute - CANCELLED due to low response
Partner IVF #1b - February 2014 - H's eggs, my Ute - ER February 4 (10 retrieved, 3 fertilized), Transfer Feb 7 of one Grade 1 and one Grade 2 day 3 embryos.  1 - Day 3, Grade 1 frosty saved.   BFP - 6dp3dt via FRER, Beta #1 - 110, Beta #2 175, Beta #3 - 348, Beta #4 - 2222!, Beta #5 - 4255.  Ultrasound (6w1d) - 2 heartbearts!  

We lost our beautiful Twin baby girls on June 18, 2014.  Tavin Sara and Casey Elizabeth were born at 21 weeks gestation and were absolutely beautiful, precious, amazing babies.  We miss our daughters every day and love them with all our hearts.

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LGBTQ Multiples Check-In (maybe? weigh in) 26 votes

Yes! We should do a Multiples check-in every so often.
46% 12 votes
Naw - I don't think we need it (Parenting or Pregnant with multiples)
0% 0 votes
I don't have multiples, but I think it may distract from our community feel (or something similar - your feelings matter!)
23% 6 votes
SS/I just want to see the results
30% 8 votes

Re: LGBTQ Multiples Check-In (maybe? weigh in)

  • Obviously C and I have no kiddos yet, but when we get to the ET stage, we plan to transfer two. That doesn't guarantee twins I know, but if we end up with two, I would participate.

    Me: 30  DW (aka C): 29

    Together since 2/15/11 ~ Legally married in NY on 9/29/12

    ***CP mentioned***

    We've been working on baby #1 since July 2013 using Open ID donor sperm.  8 IUI attempts with 5 actual IUIs and one chemical pregnancy.  We have one fresh IVF cycle under our belts as well as a FET.  I have endometriosis and a uterine septum that was corrected via surgery in November 2013. 

    11/14/14 -  Second HSG shows that tubes are still clear and ute is looking good. 

    12/6/14 - Started BCPs in prep for IVF #2

    12/22/14 - Saline u/s and endometrial scratch (All was clear and OUCH!)

    1/2/15 - Began stimming for IVF #2

     ****All Welcome!****

    We are Mommas to four fur babies - 3 dogs and 1 cat.

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  • @Manada, I accidentally downloaded the Indian version of the BC app, which seems to reference twins almost every other day. See if you can find that (my tip off was in the first tri, to try "samosas or chaats for morning sickness). It's rather hetero-focused ("As her husband, please don't look at other attractive specimens as she is gaining weight and may not feel god about her body..." LOL!).

    Anyhow, my two cents on the checkin is that fundamentally, there are 4 currently pregnant and I know a few more parenting which isn't a ton of people really, and if I had multiples, I think I'd personally rely on the multiples board for a way bigger sample size if I had questions or wanted input on the multiple aspect of my pregnancy (but of course, this is hypothetical).

    I don't at all want to diminish the difference of having twins vs. one (like, hello, a whole other HUMAN is in the mix!) - but I'd vote that checking in with the bigger groups on the Monday check-ins lets us all be a part of your journeys. And, I think the other multiple moms do pipe in on multiple-focused questions so there is input and support it seems anyhow, and of course anyone is free to create a separate post if they have a targeted question or issue. Just my two cents - but for, me, I kinda like that we have Mondays being loaded up with TTC/pregnancy/parenting check-ins, plus the other daily threads as-is.

    However, whatever happens is cool. Just my 2 cents!
    Lil'mamaz was born on Aug 21, 2014! She's PERFECT!

    It's been a long road to here...
    Me (43) and J (45) - same sex couple. And we don't feel 40+!
    June'12 - First RE Visit
    Sept. '12 - Tubes removed
    Dec. '12 - Donor Egg/Donor Sperm IVF Cycle - 4 good embies!
    Dec. '12 - Fresh transfer, BFP! EDD 8/29/13
    Mar. '13 - Missed m/c at 16w1d, baby boy stopped growing at 15w4d
    Loss due to umbilical cord clot...baby was perfect. :(
    Jul '13 - FET#1 - c/p
    Sept. '13 - FET#2 - BFN
    Dec.' 2, 2013 - FET#3 with our last chance embie - BFP!!!
    Dec' 26, 2013 - hb!!
    EDD 8/20/14 with a baby girl!
    Little S was born on 8/21/14 - 8lb, 14 oz and 20 inches long.
    We live in Seattle and used SRM for our donor egg IVF cycle


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  • ManadaManada member
    Hi Everyone,

    Interestingly enough - it would appear that there's a pretty strong desire for a multiples check-in on here - and a slight feeling by others without multiples that they are worried that it will distract from the community.   Fair enough, but I think that as long as people want to keep it going, it's worth it.   

    Maybe it shouldn't be on Mondays though, I agree that it's a bit weighed down on those days, My personal choice would probably be to choose either a Wednesday or a Friday, but that's mostly because I don't usually do WFD Wednesday or GTKY Friday.     Maybe I'll just post something next week and we'll see who participates -- sound good?  Anyone want to lead the check-in?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    queer couple - 32 (me) & 33 (my love) years old - donor sperm,

    Our IF/TTC journey since Nov 2012.

    Me: dx of DOR in Nov. 2012. Low AMH, AFC - 6, Normal FSH, SS-A (RO) Antibodies (Autoimmune issues), tubes clear, Sono (November 2013) NORMAL! <p>

    7 IUI's - December 2012-September 2013.  Medicated, Injected, Triggered.... all BFN.

    My Love:  (the amazing @Healz413)
    Normal AMH & FSH, AFC ~27, blocked tube dx'd via HSG in 2012.   Hydrosalpinx & ovarian cyst dx'd in May 2013.
    dx of Stage IV Endo & bilateral salpinectomy in June 2013.  

    image

    Partner IVF#1a- December 2013 - H's eggs, my Ute - CANCELLED due to low response
    Partner IVF #1b - February 2014 - H's eggs, my Ute - ER February 4 (10 retrieved, 3 fertilized), Transfer Feb 7 of one Grade 1 and one Grade 2 day 3 embryos.  1 - Day 3, Grade 1 frosty saved.   BFP - 6dp3dt via FRER, Beta #1 - 110, Beta #2 175, Beta #3 - 348, Beta #4 - 2222!, Beta #5 - 4255.  Ultrasound (6w1d) - 2 heartbearts!  

    We lost our beautiful Twin baby girls on June 18, 2014.  Tavin Sara and Casey Elizabeth were born at 21 weeks gestation and were absolutely beautiful, precious, amazing babies.  We miss our daughters every day and love them with all our hearts.

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  • @manada sounds good! I value the pregnancy check in on Monday and love hearing how everyone is doing, regardless of how many they are expecting. A multiples only discussion would also be interesting so I look forward to that. Especially since I don't especially feel near as at home on the multiples board as I do here.

    @2MamazInSeattle‌ I love the chaat and samosas for morning sickness recommendation! That's awesome! And are there just more multiples in India? Strange that the mention twins so much more often than the other app.

    A & K, married 7/1/13.

    After 10 months of ttc via medicated IUIs and two early losses, we finally got our boys- Perfect premie twins born 5/27/14.

     

     

  • I'm with @2MamazinSeattle...doesn't really seem necessary to me.  Personally, I do feel like you can have too many check ins.  If there is a check in that doesn't apply to me (Induced Lactation, Multiples) or one that I just don't have as much of a stake in (Gender Open Parenting), I will tend to just ignore them.  Which is fine, but I wonder if that means that I miss out on some of the conversation on induced lactation, multiples, gender open parenting, etc that might have otherwise occurred in the Parenting or Pregnancy threads and that I could learn something from.  Discussion of these issues has always been welcome on the Parenting and Pregnancy threads, so I wonder why there is really a need to separate them.  If someone has a burning question about raising multiples and they want input from both parents of multiples and those pregnant with them, they are always welcome to start a brand new thread to ask their question.  It's not as if everything needs to be in the context of a check in.

    When I joined this board in 2011, there weren't separate check ins for TTC, Pregnancy and Parenting.  There was a TTC/Parenting thread in which everyone checked in about the status of their kids, pregnancy or TTC journey.  As more people joined the board, we had a lot of pregnancies and a lot of people (myself included) struggling to conceive, and splitting them up was a nice way of giving TTCers a way to avoid hearing about pregnancies if it was difficult for them.  It was about creating a safe space, but I don't feel like the Pregnancy and Parenting threads are NOT safe spaces in which to discuss multiples...you know?

    In the end, I am not pregnant with or a parent of multiples, so I would not participate in the thread; if people who are pregnant or parenting multiples want the thread (which appears to be the case), then by all means go ahead with it!  I just wanted to explain why I chose #3 above.
    Married my wife 8/2007 ~ TTC #1 since 7/2011
    9 IUIs = 9 BFNs
    IVF October 2012: 22 eggs retrieved, 17 fertilized, 5 frozen
    ET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Blighted ovum discovered at 7w5d; D&E
    FET #1: 1 blast = BFP; Missed m/c discovered at 9w5d; D&E
    Karyotyping: normal ~ RPL Testing: normal ~ Hysteroscopy: normal
    FET #2: 1 blast transferred 10/25; BFP 10/31!
    EDD 7/13/14 ~ Induced at 37w4d due to pre-eclampsia ~ Born on 6/28/14
    *Everyone welcome*

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  • I'm not pregnant (yet!) but with my protocol there is a real possibility of multiples for me should I finally get pregnant so I would appreciate the multiples check-in.

    I've lurked on the multiples board on TB and was alarmed at some of the conversations that I don't feel will apply to me as a lesbian mom.  Specifically, the lack of sleep and complaining about husbands not doing their share to help when the babies are in the infant stage.  I didn't realize how common that was until I read through the thread and everyone was like "My husband/SO does the same thing!  They'll get more involved when they're older."

    Perhaps I'm wrong in that LGBTQ parents work differently but at least for C and I, we agreed we'd both alternate getting up and down to care for the baby(ies).  Which would be even more important to me if we had a pair of babies to take care of. 

    I think we will have issues that straights don't have to deal with, and having more than two babies adds to the mix.  We as LGBTQ parents already have to field intrusive questions, and I can imagine it will become even more of an issue if there are two babies and two moms.  I hate intrusive questions and am already assembling my armor to deal with it, but if we have twins it's going to be even more we'll have to handle.

    TL;DR - I would love to see a multiples check-in, even if I never participate if I get a singleton, just because I do feel issues will arise that are unique to LGBTQ folks with multiples that we may not feel as comfortable posting on the main multiples board.

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