I'm curious-vaccination

RondackHiker · May 2014

I know we've had many vaccine discussions on here. I'm wondering if we are all being smart and vaccinating or if there are non-vaxxers on beer that just keep quiet to avoid flames.

So. Are you vaccinating?

((Being afraid of a reaction or toxins when there's no actual evidence do not count as "a health reason". That's for actual diagnosed health issues.))

littlepig2 · May 2014

I'm the "some but not all because of health reasons". LO has an extremely sensitive tummy and got really sick from the rotavirus vaccine. our pedi said she doesn't recommend doing the second dose of it due to her reaction to the first. I'm pro-vac and want DD to get them all but with her tummy issues, we may delay some until she can handle them when she's older.

ShePersisted · May 2014

I voted yes but I think I may fall under the SS category because along with regular vaccinations I will be getting additional vaccines for my LO. We plan to travel internationally in July so his pedi has listed out a few extras based on where we will go. Our schedule will also be moved forward by a few weeks to accommodate the three boosters before LO has to travel. I'm a little sad (and nervous) that he has to get a few extra pokes but I rather him be vaccinated rather than be at risk for illness.

ziggy903 · May 2014

Vaccinate all the babies!
...also I generally do whatever the NICU or pediatrician or urologist tells us. They have yet to steer me wrong.

versed · May 2014

@kbauer1022‌ - where I go to moms' group, the head of the store (a doula) is a very "delayed-schedule" / picking-and-choosing-vaccines type. During pregnancy groups, she said we shouldn't be bullied into getting the flu vaccine. Lots of the moms from the groups talk about which pedis will be anti-vaccine with them. It does make me a little nervous to associate with these moms and their babies. Also, I lost a lot of respect for the woman who runs things, too, for putting ideas in the heads of these nervous FTMs.

SuzyQq02 · May 2014

yep, all of the vaccines.

We met with a pedi as a part of our childbirth class and he said unequivocally, the most important job he has is to vaccinate kids. Wejusthad a measles proutbreak in our towna couple months ago, it was scary to have a bootabvulnerable lo... she's getting them all as soon as possible.

ziggy903 · May 2014

kbauer1022 said:
Once we knew that being a healthy baby, he should not have issues with the regular schedule, we were ready to go.

My baby is considered an "unhealthy baby" and he's just fine with the regular schedule. We've even been doin the shots at his actual, not adjusted age. He got his 2m shots near his edd.
...unless there are 4 month shots? That's just because we can't get to his legs right now.

I'm just saying, even an unhealthy baby can be fine with shots on time. It's very case-by-case.

sdlaura · May 2014

I answered yes but then realized that we elected not to do Hep B on the day of birth. We did it soon after, though.

mlynn333 · May 2014

Can someone educate me on the delayed schedule thing? I've had people recommend it, but nobody told me what that actually means.

djtippietoes · May 2014

All. Regular schedule.

queeniecrayon · May 2014

All of them, on schedule, except varicella.

shellbell3845 · May 2014

We're doing all the vaccines when the pedi tells us. My degree isn't in pediatric medicine, so there's no reason for me to pretend I know more than the pediatrician does.

Just out of curiosity, what are some health reasons why lo's shouldn't get vaccines? I read the response about sensitive tummies. I'd also guess allergies -- but how do they know if a LO is allergic to the vaccine ingredients?

Lemon81 · May 2014

We are doing all vaccines, but LO had a reaction to her first rotavirus vaccine. She had diarrhea for almost 3 weeks (we are working with the pedi to get things handled and it is much better now). I believe there is a 2nd dose at 4 months and I will have a thorough discussion with the pedi about whether or not to try it again. It may be better for LO to not get the 2nd dose of that one.

RondackHiker · May 2014

@shellbell3845‌

Cancer or other diseases that suppress the immune system often mean no vaccines.

shellbell3845 · May 2014

RondackHiker said:
@shellbell3845‌

Cancer or other diseases that suppress the immune system often mean no vaccines.

Thanks. I should have thought of that. Do immune system issues mean no vaccines ever or just delayed -- or is that case by case?

ziggy903 · May 2014

shellbell3845 said:

RondackHiker said:
@shellbell3845‌

Cancer or other diseases that suppress the immune system often mean no vaccines.
Thanks. I should have thought of that. Do immune system issues mean no vaccines ever or just delayed -- or is that case by case?

Case by case. A lot of preemies(especially micropreemies) do a very delayed schedule because their immune system SUCKS

Magnolia+Mama · May 2014

Our pedi is one of few in our area who will accept patients who choose not to vaccinate (I didn't know that most practices wouldn't take non-vaccinated patients until we interviewed him). He just asks that parents who choose not to vaccinate allow him to educate them on the benefits of vaccines on the recommended timeline. Not an issue for us-since we are pro-vaccine!

alphaphi98 · May 2014

Yes of course! Not vaccinating is just stupid.

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Magnolia+Mama · May 2014

greenbunny79 said:

ciurke3 said:

Our pedi is one of few in our area who will accept patients who choose not to vaccinate (I didn't know that most practices wouldn't take non-vaccinated patients until we interviewed him). He just asks that parents who choose not to vaccinate allow him to educate them on the benefits of vaccines on the recommended timeline. Not an issue for us-since we are pro-vaccine!

There may be other kids in the waiting room that aren't vaccinated. This makes me wonder if my pedi accepts anti-vaxer offspring.

We discussed this concern with him. They know who the unvaccinated kids are and quarantine them when they are waiting.

halfthetree · May 2014

My son had a bad reaction to his 2 month vaccinations, so our pediatrician suggested we hold off until a year before kindergarten (get him covered before he starts), so I could beef up his immune system and his gut flora before we resume. He is turning 4 so he is set to resume (so long as he doesn't react) this summer, cue needle tears!
Our ped and her partners agreed our daughter should hold off the first year, because of the issues we had with our son (and I have Crohns as well, and have had HSP flair ups, so they are cautious with our kids' guts)..

I'm thankful those around us vaccinate their children when my children can't be right now.

snowwhite1979 · May 2014

My friend's dad is a polio survivor. This shit is real. All the vaccines over here.

queeniecrayon · May 2014

golfergirl08 said:

sms_518 said:

All of them, on schedule, except varicella.

Okay I will be the one to nitpick, why not this one? I know this is for chicken pox, but I think this one wasn't around when we were kids. Just curious.

It's chickenpox....if we did day care I'd do it off the get go. If she hasn't had chickenpox by school time she'll get it. I guess I should have said we're delaying this one....

ramfan05 · May 2014

All the vaccines over here.

melissaf22 · May 2014

It makes me relieved that most of us said yes, I would never for a sec even entertain the notion of not getting LO vaccinated! My pedi has dropped patients because of this and it made me like him even more!

RondackHiker · May 2014

@sms_518‌

Both of my healthy sisters had shingles outbreaks in college. One had them so bad she could barely study and it happened during finals week. Luckily her grades were good enough a bad final exam didn't destroy her chances of grad school.

Several of my friends have visible scarring on their face.

A childhood friend died at age 4 from a what they think may have been complications of chicken pox (though, to be fair, they don't really know what happened and it's one possibility).

And what about babies and those with weak immune systems who are at risk and who you could help protect through herd immunity by vaccinating?

There is no real risk to vaccinating and many benefits for your children and others. Do it.

Firefly9 · May 2014

Thank goodness we weeded out the crazies who refused to vaccinate just because CHEMICALS!!!!!

Absolutely vaccinating, absolutely vaccinating on schedule. Get it done with, you know? Speaking of, 4 month vaccinations on Thursday.

queeniecrayon · May 2014

You can still get shingles even with the chicken pox vaccine.....They're both up to date on everything else.

Eta: lower risk, but still there. Like I said, I chose to delay it. That was with my oldest. Odds are they'll both get it this year. It's not because chemicals, it's not because I'm uneducated. I did my research, discussed it with her pedi, and made my decision. I chose to delay it and I'm not sorry.

DD1 also only got 1/2 of her flu shot because she had a skin reaction to it. We'll be discussing that vaccination with the pedi come flu season.

boogerbearoriginal · May 2014

We delayed Hep B until the getting it in the shot at 2m, and the pedi was fine with that, and we skipped rotavirus altogether.

We get all others on schedule for LO2.

For LO1, we spread his first year of shots out, so one shot at a time, instead of 3 or 4 at once. He was completely caught up with the regular schedule by 18m. H had some reactions to vaccines as a child (although I think some of it was MIL insane now that I know her better) but we were nervous FTPs and wanted to know if LO had a reaction exactly which one was causing the issue. Since he never had issues, and going to the Drs a million times isn't as easy this go-around, we are just sticking with the standard schedule this time.

We were never opposed to vaccines, just nervous because of MIL's weird stories about H's reactions. But the more I learn about her, the more I realize she's just BSC.

ziggy903 · May 2014

@car seat‌ there are a lot of choices that are like "0%, 2 votes" so I guess that's where the 7% is

notreal2 · May 2014

clb2196 said:

Isn't there a separate vaccine for shingles, too, for adults? I feel like I remember seeing it at Walgreens, I had chicken pox as a kid pre-vaccine and haven't had shingles, and I'd definitely like to avoid that so I guess I should look into that.

It's recommened for older people, 60 or older usually, although my mom got it at 55, so it's probably something you can hold off getting for now.

notreal2 · May 2014

LaurLaurLaur said:

The doc basically told her to stay home and order Peapod.

I would like to get this vaccine just to have a doctor order me to do this please.

karich · May 2014

We do similar to @LaurLaurLaur‌

Instead of 4 vaccines at once, we go back every month and do 2 at a time. I don't consider it a delayed schedule because my kids are totally up to date on everything.
My pedi offered it with DD1, and since it worked out, I have done the same with the other 2. I'm glad we do it this way, because DD2 had a horrible reaction to her varicella and now we know exactly which vaccine it was. I'm not even sure the pedi will give her the next dose. She had hives/a rash for over a month. We ended up at children's hospital because of it, and she took Zyrtec and Benedryl daily for weeks. It sucked. I feel like the reaction might have been worse than getting the actual chickenpox....and now she most likely still doesn't have immunity to it.
My pediatrician doesn't give the rotovirus vaccine, so that is the only one we are missing.
ETA: we also delay the hep B until the 2 month shots.

boogerbearoriginal · May 2014

lala2332 said:

Why skip rotavirus then?

In talking with the Pedi about LO's risk (for example, not being in daycare puts her at a lower risk), and the potential side effects from the vaccine, we elected to skip it. Pedi wasn't particularly concerned with us skipping it.

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goobermom · May 2014

Regarding the Shingles vaccine for adults - My MIL looked into getting this a year ago when FIL had shingles. After talking to the doctor about it she elected not to get it for a couple of reasons. Their insurance didn't cover it, and it was a pretty expensive shot (I think it was several hundred dollars out-of-pocket). Also, according to her doctor, the shot only actually works to provide immunity to about 50% of people who get it. So even if you get the shot you could still end up with Shingles.

goobermom · May 2014

We delayed the Hep B till the 2 month shots, mostly because LO went to NICU with pneumonia when he was born and we didn't want to stress his system any further at the time (Pedi said that this was fine as LO was at a very low risk for getting Hep

. Everything else has been on schedule.

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goobermom · May 2014

@wildflower26 - That is interesting that the severity is reduced. That would make getting the vaccine more helpful!

goobermom · May 2014

@greenbunny79‌ - of course vaccines are not 100% effective. I wasn't trying to say that they were/should be. I was just pointing out that this particular vaccine has about a 50% success rate at prevention. I thought it was an interesting fact.
For my MIL she felt that this fact, combined with the high cost (and the fact that she is still pretty young) was reason to forego the vaccine.

funchicken · May 2014

We did everything except rotavirus. LO was having blood in her stool, and we were still trying to figure out what I was eating that was bothering her. DD2 had similar issues, and we had to skip that one with her, too.

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