I am concerned about the development of this board. Having been a knot, nest, bump member for about 8 years I have never seen a board run with so many add on rules.
Never have I seen another board require new posters to "get in with the cool kids" before posting. New posters seem to be required to learn how to dress, eat, and talk like the "cool kids" before they are allowed to post. I find this unacceptable. This is a public board with public thoughts and ideas. Yes there are specified community rules but I have seen so many posts being chewed up because of little "errors" in a persons ability to adapt to the said "cool kid" rules.
The day of silence in particular is frustrating to me. There have been SO MANY losses these past 3 months. The day of silence was not held for all of the losses but for 1 member of the board. Not only that, the day of silence was mandated by a few select people. This was not something that was chosen by all of the members of this board or by The Bump gods. Trolling posts making sure people stay "silent" is unreasonable. If you want to be silent out of respect for someone you love that's a noble desire. But you can't expect the entire world to conform to the standards you set for your self.
I am truly sorry for ALL of the losses on this board. I do not think one mama that has lost their baby would think that their loss was any less significant because of the manor that they lost their baby.
I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.
Please, if you have concerns about these developments speak up. This is your forum to do so.
If you have been someone requiring posters to conform to your rules that were not set by The Bump gods I ask you to reconsider the way you have been doing things. I believe this will contribute to a happier and healthier N14 board.
Every board I've ever been a part of has had a group of people with stronger personalities on it. I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong with it as long as everyone gets along (which seems to be the case). It really just depends on what you want out of it. I think we'd have done the same for any of the ladies on the board, just in this case someone brought up the idea.
Seriously? It is to the point where you need to be "a cool kid " to post? I don't think that is the case. The only people who get chewed out are people who choose not to see what is going on prior to posting. There is a reason that you are not allowed to post right after you create your user info. It allowed me to lurk and get to know the protocol for this type of forum. I love this bored and yesterday I was just lurking other BMBs because I was just curious. I didn't see many that came close to sharing the comradre of N14. Yesterday's support was different bc while we have experienced a lot of awful losses we have not had another member have to make a choice like Lisa (that I know of). I think Lisa has incredible strength and we were trying to show respect and support. You are right there have been many tragic and awful losses. Maybe we can create a similar tribute for those mamas.
actually, i could not agree with you more. and i've also been around these boards for quite a long time (as i begin to count, i feel sad as i realize that number is 6 years).
i've been a part of other boards that have done a day of silence. i take that back. it was more like a specified time length, usually an hour or so. 24 hours is pretty long. those were boards that were full of far fewer people, so it was far more tight knit, and the loss was much later and complicated. however, even then we had the debate over whose loss should get board silence because seemingly it made it seem that others and their losses were not worthy of the same. needless to say, board silence has since stopped with those groups. because even then we realized that by being so outwardly supportive of one person that we had unwillingly made others in the same situation feel less supported. in that tight knit group of 75 members we saw 4 mid term losses, all around 20w, all induced and delivered. of those 4 we did board silence for 1. and for yet another we collected money and sent a gift. it wasn't until someone pointed out that we weren't being consistent that we began to feel like total idiots. what about the other girls? they had all been through so much and there we were seemingly picking and choosing who got an outpouring of support. we are far more aware now, and nobody holds any grudges. we were doing what we felt was right without realizing we hadn't done the same for others. and yet, it wasn't about us at all. it was about those moms and what they had to go through and endure.
all losses are very sad, and very hard. and the reality is that if you think that the instant loss is going to be the saddest of the board, you're probably very wrong. there will be more. take a look around and take note. it could be me, or the person next to me, or you, or the person next to you. on my last BMB there were at least 2 losses after 16w. losses that couldn't have been predicted. babies that simply passed away in utero. there will probably be a few that will go in to labor early. too early. and this board will learn the reality that viability day is an important one, because prior to that day hospitals won't attempt to save the baby because medical science tells us that they are too young and not compatible with life. and so, they pass. and then there will be a few more that will give birth after viability day, but still very early, resulting in a lot of NICU time. nobody expects to give birth at 27w. and yet, it happens. and it's scary. and there are a lot of days that are touch and go.
i guess my point is that we all still have a long ways to go. so i suppose the board should be prepared to do more board silences for all losses from here on out, since this is now the standard that has been set. all those that have had losses prior will hopefully not recognize that their losses paled in comparison. my actual point is that all losses are to be mourned and grieved and those mom's supported, because regardless of how that loss takes place it's fucking hard. whether it's in your bathroom by yourself or in a hospital room, it's hard, all in their own ways.
and yeah, the extra rules? i don't even read them. unless TB put them out, they don't matter. you can make as many sticky posts as you like. and even those are getting out of hand. you guys, i was KIDDING when i suggested a plethora of sticky posts.
I would have no problem creating a board norm that we do a period of silence (maybe shorter than 24 hrs?) for any regs experiencing loss. Lisaren is not only a reg, she's our mod so I do feel it was appropriate in this case.
As far as the "cool kids" accusation, I just don't see it. I feel that I have acted exactly how I wanted to at all times on this board and never had an issue. I've found pretty much everyone to be friendly, honest, and a lot of good information here.
I also believe that the best love and support you can give someone with a loss is long term. Not 1 day. I feel like we are saying "well the hardship is over now everyone back to normal".
Yesterday is most likely not the hardest part of Lisa's journey.
I never asked anyone to do anything and as a matter of fact I suggested just a thread of gifs. I feel equally sad for every mother who has had a loss here. I cry for them and with them. I appreciate the intense feeling of guilt you have now put upon me.
On that note I think this is real fuckin shitty timing to post this. Real fuckin shitty.
I also believe that the best love and support you can give someone with a loss is long term. Not 1 day. I feel like we are saying "well the hardship is over now everyone back to normal".
Yesterday is most likely not the hardest part of Lisa's journey.
Well I for one intend to keep supporting her! I don't think having a period of silence implies in any way that's the only form of support.
I never asked anyone to do anything and as a matter of fact I suggested just a thread of gifs.
I feel equally sad for every mother who has had a loss here. I cry for them and with them.
I appreciate the intense feeling of guilt you have now put upon me.
On that note I think this is real fuckin shitty timing to post this.
Real fuckin shitty.
This is not directed at you. I know that you said everyone should continue business as usual. I should have added that as a side note to this post, i'm sorry. @lisaren
I also believe that the best love and support you can give someone with a loss is long term. Not 1 day. I feel like we are saying "well the hardship is over now everyone back to normal".
Yesterday is most likely not the hardest part of Lisa's journey.
Well I for one intend to keep supporting her! I don't think having a period of silence implies in any way that's the only form of support.
@lisaren please don't feel guilty for our decision to do what we did- please also note that there were plenty of mamas who have experienced loss that participated. I would hope they did not do it because they felt pressured. They did it because they wanted to shower you with love and support.
Please everyone do not post anymore about me, or My son. If you want an update about his ceremony you can PM me and I can privately update you.
I'm sorry my loss and the very sweet gesture of board of silence has upset some. I do not want my pregnancy or my loss or my son or the FUCKIN AWFUL CHOICE I HAD TO MAKE to be debated on this board whether or not it was offensive or not fair to others who had losses or posted on the board of silence. It's not fair to the other moms. And their precious baby's or to me. If you want to discuss this leave me and my son out of your mouth. Really in the grand scheme of things is it that big of a fuckin deal.
OK for real right now? First of all how STUPID does someone have to be to come here and see 3-4 pages of threads all titled the same thing and go back 4 fing pages to dig a shit up with out trying to figure out what's going on first. Every problem we have had on this board has been because people stroll in and start posting and never return. Second of all, we all give support to EVERY mom with a loss. Third if you don't like it here don't be here! If you don't like how the board is developing, don't be a part of it! You are not required to be here. And just because you have been around for a while does NOT mean all boards will be the same. As for rules? We have made no extra rules we asked for 24 hours for a mom in need of support and the MAJORITY of the people were honored to do this for our mod and precious baby Brody. The rest of the people I know we're not trying to be disrespectful (with exception of the one), just stupid.
I really don't agree. This board doesn't feel exclusive to me at all. Certainly not any more than the other boards I've been on. There are people who can post more and will always be.
As for the silence? Yeah I think we should do something for all the losses. We also have a post with angel babies in it which my other BMB didn't do. And if you check my siggy you will see I'm clearly under no delusion that any point in pregnancy is safe. Lisa has said she's sticking around and so have others and the board has continued to show them support.
I'm not usually argumentative I just don't understand what you want this board to look like. I mostly stick to pgal and the loss board but I feel plenty safe posting here too, though I'm hardly a "reg". Maybe I have just missed all the extra rules posts.
ETA - I thought the angel babies post was pinned but I guess not.
@lisaren - please don't feel bad at all. I was happy to give you that show of support even with something as simple as "board silence".
I am sorry for the loss of your sweet boy. I too have experienced a loss and I understand some of the hurt you and the other ladies with losses have. Although it was 7 years ago it can take my breath away in a moment.
There have been posts where people have been jumped on because they have not read every other post on the board before posting themselves, there have been other things but for now my memory fails me.
I would just like to see the ladies of this board take a deep breath and relax.
I don't usually get involved in these particular threads, but I do want to mention that she is our mod and has put a lot of time and effort into this board. I don't think it undermines or lessens the sadness of other losses, but shows an appreciation of Lisa for all the work she has put in for us while she goes through a difficult time.
And last thing I'll say, I appreciate every single one of you for loving me loving Brody and supporting me. I hope each of you have the most amazing pregnancies and hold those sweet baby's in your arms
Nobody feel bad for doing what you did. Please. You have big hearts and a lot of love. I'm humbled to know my Brody touched so many people. Just as every single woman here who has suffered a loss has touched me.
i'm very sorry. honestly, there was never going to be a good time to post anything like this. and it's never the individual that is going through hell that asks for these things to be done. it's a board idea, and one that seems so awesome. it's just that nobody thought of it earlier.
and like pp mentioned: long term support is crucial. in my own, not at all the same, experiences the rest of the world seems to begin easing up on support after about two weeks. grief lasts much longer than that.
the thing about BMB's also is that they are usually excessively large and not nearly as tight knit as other boards. so when something happens, not everyone is going to be aware. i read the post that asked for the board silence and OP even mentioned that there would be people that would post and bump threads and not to jump all over them. that's reasonable and fair. it's why i find it ridiculous that a thread was started to begin a spreadsheet of everyone due in november. 600+ people are not going to be 100% active on the board. BMB's have a lot more people that are sporadic in their involvement. that's just how they are.
and on a side note we should all be impressed with the activity on this board. after the massive fuckup TK/TN/TB went through a couple of years ago it killed most of their forums. most of TN is still pretty damn dead because everyone went off to the proboards (yuck). so the people behind TB are just thrilled as can be that people are actually posting here. they can all keep their jobs another day.
I don't think it was directed right at you @lisaren. I really hope you don't feel any guilt! You have been though a lot and a gut wrenching situation. You have been open and I have genuinely enjoyed reading your posts! I think this was all brought up because of the op experience on boards before. For her it was concerning enough to bring up.
I do understand the op's point of view. However, you have played a pivotal roll in this board! I certainly wouldn't expect the same if I went through something similar because people aren't as connected to me as they are to you. But hey, I just need to jump in more!! I'm always so worried my words will be taken out of context so I'm not as verbose as I am in real life.
I don't really feel there are "cool kids" but people who post more and have gotten to know one another better. I have to say though the out pouring of love to those who have had losses has been beautiful!! Whether everyone knows the poster well or not!
DBG wife, Pre-Med student, and Scentsy Certified Consultant
I honestly couldn't disagree more with what you've said. I post often but not super regularly and I have never once felt like I was being left out or treated poorly on this board. The "cool kids" you refer to are ladies that post ALL the time so of course they're going to set the tone for the board. But it's like any other situation in life - you read the situation and act accordingly. I don't think that's strange or against social norms.
I'd also like to mention that your second comment is totally out of line. Maybe you could have waited a while to say something instead of making Lisa feel bad the day after her procedure that the board went silent. Just because a few posters didn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't fairly board unanimous. As evidenced by the many many lisaren posts. You in no way get to judge how people choose to respect someone. Lisa had to make a terrible decision that I hope no one else has to make on this board and we chose to respect and honour her decision. Sorry if you didn't like it. Deal with it.
ETA: sorry @lisaren I didn't see your post until just now. Done commenting on this.
Hmm, this thread seems to suggest we should impose order while also critisizing those who try to impose order.
While I'm only an occasional poster, here are my 2 cents.
I like to go to restaurants. Shockingly, I do not love every item on every menu. So... I pick out the items I like and ignore the rest.
Am I mad that the restaurant owner put foods I don't like on the menu? No. Do I order stuff I don't want? Also, no.
This board is the same way.
I treat the boards like a menu, I choose the threads of interest to me and ignore the rest. It keeps things remarkably simple.
My problem comes when the posts that do interest me have a bunch of the wrong ingredients in them because someone in the line decided they didn't like the way the recipe was made. (to make an analogy more complicated. :P )
I honestly couldn't disagree more with what you've said. I post often but not super regularly and I have never once felt like I was being left out or treated poorly on this board. The "cool kids" you refer to are ladies that post ALL the time so of course they're going to set the tone for the board. But it's like any other situation in life - you read the situation and act accordingly. I don't think that's strange or against social norms.
I'd also like to mention that your second comment is totally out of line. Maybe you could have waited a while to say something instead of making Lisa feel bad the day after her procedure that the board went silent. Just because a few posters didn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't fairly board unanimous. As evidenced by the many many lisaren posts. You in no way get to judge how people choose to respect someone. Lisa had to make a terrible decision that I hope no one else has to make on this board and we chose to respect and honour her decision. Sorry if you didn't like it. Deal with it.
ETA: sorry @lisaren I didn't see your post until just now. Done commenting on this.
My problem wasn't with other people choosing to be silent. My problem was with the people who trolled the posts that weren't silent and yelled at them. If you read my post again you will see I mentioned that. If you want to respect someone in a certain manor that's great, but requiring others to conform to what you're doing on a public forum is what I have a problem with.
If I had my computer right now I'd turn this thread nachos, cake, and mean girls. Unfortunately, I still can't mobile gif. Thatisall. ETA: because "I don't like the recipe" Bwwaaaaahaaahaha
But was it really necessary to complain about maternity pants? It just couldn't wait?? You couldn't have talked about it on another board for just 1 day??
The maternity pants post was made before "the silence" I responded to a comment on my post. This wasn't the only post that was trolled. You can also see on the "laws you wish existed" post this happening too.
By "cool kids" do you mean the girls that have frequently posted since the beginning, have made an effort to participate & get to know others, and formed a bond with others on the board?
A particular loss was treated differently on this board because there were much different circumstances involved. As someone from this board that experienced a loss, I felt no offense. Support was still offered to me in my time of need (and still being offered regularly by the "cool kids") I understood the difference of this situation.
Where are these "rules" are that you speak of? What are these conformities you insist are demanded?
The board is what you make of it. No one is forcing you to be here. If you don't like the board, don't be on the board. Take a look around some other BMBs..this one is pretty tame.
But was it really necessary to complain about maternity pants? It just couldn't wait?? You couldn't have talked about it on another board for just 1 day??
The maternity pants post was made before "the silence" I responded to a comment on my post. This wasn't the only post that was trolled. You can also see on the "laws you wish existed" post this happening too.
And I simply asked you to respect what the rest of us were doing an stop posting. Get the F over it and move on. I did this in about 3 other threads too. It wasn't an attack as much as a "hey read what's going in" (as if the 4 pages of the same post wasn't a tale tale sign to do some investigating )
But was it really necessary to complain about maternity pants? It just couldn't wait?? You couldn't have talked about it on another board for just 1 day??
The maternity pants post was made before "the silence" I responded to a comment on my post. This wasn't the only post that was trolled. You can also see on the "laws you wish existed" post this happening too.
But you kept commenting on it. Like what was the harm of not posting? I don't get why you are makino this such a big thing. It was 1 day
Honestly, when i skimmed through the PSA post (like I do most posts) I didn't read the silence part. I had commented on my posts early in the morning (pst) and then wasn't even on the board the rest of the day. I only saw the "stop posting" this morning when I jumped on.
I do think what I am concerned about still stands. I think that not everyone is going to follow the unspoken, or even some of the spoken board rules. I think people need to stop being so nit picky.
By "cool kids" do you mean the girls that have frequently posted since the beginning, have made an effort to participate & get to know others, and formed a bond with others on the board?
A particular loss was treated differently on this board because there were much different circumstances involved. As someone from this board that experienced a loss, I felt no offense. Support was still offered to me in my time of need (and still being offered regularly by the "cool kids") I understood the difference of this situation.
Where are these "rules" are that you speak of? What are these conformities you insist are demanded?
The board is what you make of it. No one is forcing you to be here. If you don't like the board, don't be on the board. Take a look around some other BMBs..this one is pretty tame.
And with that, I'm out! I don't even go here.
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You belong here. Although I understand the feelings
FFS. Sorry we ruined your talk of maternity pants OP. I don't even know what to say. This is nuts. This board is amazing and supportive of everyone as long as they are supportive and kind in return.
People were told in the PSA to not comment when other people bumped posts and to let it go. Like 99% of the board did that. A few people thought it was more appropriate to comment and tell people to stop posting. It really feels like your issue is more with the 3-4 people who commented on your posts instead of the entire board.
You may be right.
The other post that really bugged me was when someone posted about their good news for the Harmony results and simply asked "anyone else have good news this week?" and another poster jumped down her throat for not seeing "all the other posts with good news" She was just trying to relate to other people!
Maybe I should have just taken it out on the actual posters.
If I had my computer right now I'd turn this thread nachos, cake, and mean girls. Unfortunately, I still can't mobile gif. Thatisall.
ETA: because "I don't like the recipe"
Bwwaaaaahaaahaha
I got you. I'm going donuts though, in honor of my breakfast. :P
I stand firmly behind our decision. This circumstance is different from every other circumstance we've dealt with. And we love our loss mamas--every one of them--thus, trying to set up a donation to March of Dimes in memory of all our November Angel Babies.
If you don't like it here, don't be here...
Mama to sweet baby girl, Emerson Rose, born November 7th, 2014
I'd like to add this thread pisses me off so bad!!!
I felt like I was seeing RED when I read it. I've never been so pissed off by a comment on TB, even the ones were the ladies jumped down my throat over stupid baby shower etiquette.
How can someone have the audacity to post this right after our moderator had to make a very difficult choice and is now mourning her sweet baby!? That's insane to me!
Each active poster and some not so active has supported each N14 loss. Every loss thread is met with hundreds of sincere condolences. One mother even had a loss and everyone continued to post on it during the silence period. Maybe you should've asked the women who've lost so far if they felt any particular way first instead of assuming.
This post is a 1,2,3rd trimester board post. I may not have been on here for a decade but times change as with all things, you should very well know that. No one is excluded but asked to at least LOOK at the first page. It's the same request every board has! I've seen so many newbies flamed to where they're probably at home crying and none have been treated like this on the N14 board- the poster who was banned was a special case and she was harassing our moderator.
I in no way feel like I'm apart of the "cool kids" or have I ever felt like I had to be. I mean my screen name is one of the most hated terms on TB. And some of these ladies met prior to this board and that is perfectly fine with me.
Step off the soapbox, and read that any non active/ newbie/ lurker that has posted a thread was welcomed with open arms. There was even a thread posted for Angel babies!
And as with any TB board you will be met with flames if you disrespect the moderator! Please I welcome you to try to disrespect Washington Queen or any of the other board moderators and see what happens...
I stand behind the decision. She does so much for this board... we love Lisa our unicorn!
I was in no way trying to disrespect Lisa as this post was not directed at her.
I agree with banning the OP in the case of her harassing anyone on this board.
You know what concerns me about this board? People who are so self-centered, they need to create a post about how butthurt they are over not getting to post about trivial things over a period of 24 because the rest of the board made a decision to be supportive of our mod.
Instead of realizing that you mistakenly posted during a time that a large portion of posters agreed to keep the board silent for, you come here and imply that we are the unfeeling assholes? Notice how everyone still posted for the other mama that suffered a loss this weekend? Or maybe you didn't because you were to involved in your posts to notice. Get off you high horse. You are the one being a jerk today.
Andplusalso, bringing up the cray cray banned user in support of your opinion does you no favors at all.
Re: Concerns about the development of this board.
Yesterday's support was different bc while we have experienced a lot of awful losses we have not had another member have to make a choice like Lisa (that I know of).
I think Lisa has incredible strength and we were trying to show respect and support.
You are right there have been many tragic and awful losses. Maybe we can create a similar tribute for those mamas.
As far as the "cool kids" accusation, I just don't see it. I feel that I have acted exactly how I wanted to at all times on this board and never had an issue. I've found pretty much everyone to be friendly, honest, and a lot of good information here.
Yesterday is most likely not the hardest part of Lisa's journey.
I feel equally sad for every mother who has had a loss here. I cry for them and with them.
I appreciate the intense feeling of guilt you have now put upon me.
On that note I think this is real fuckin shitty timing to post this.
Real fuckin shitty.
I'm sorry my loss and the very sweet gesture of board of silence has upset some. I do not want my pregnancy or my loss or my son or the FUCKIN AWFUL CHOICE I HAD TO MAKE to be debated on this board whether or not it was offensive or not fair to others who had losses or posted on the board of silence. It's not fair to the other moms. And their precious baby's or to me. If you want to discuss this leave me and my son out of your mouth.
Really in the grand scheme of things is it that big of a fuckin deal.
Thank you
There have been posts where people have been jumped on because they have not read every other post on the board before posting themselves, there have been other things but for now my memory fails me.
I would just like to see the ladies of this board take a deep breath and relax.
Nobody feel bad for doing what you did. Please. You have big hearts and a lot of love. I'm humbled to know my Brody touched so many people. Just as every single woman here who has suffered a loss has touched me.
I do understand the op's point of view. However, you have played a pivotal roll in this board! I certainly wouldn't expect the same if I went through something similar because people aren't as connected to me as they are to you. But hey, I just need to jump in more!! I'm always so worried my words will be taken out of context so I'm not as verbose as I am in real life.
I don't really feel there are "cool kids" but people who post more and have gotten to know one another better. I have to say though the out pouring of love to those who have had losses has been beautiful!! Whether everyone knows the poster well or not!
I'd also like to mention that your second comment is totally out of line. Maybe you could have waited a while to say something instead of making Lisa feel bad the day after her procedure that the board went silent. Just because a few posters didn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't fairly board unanimous. As evidenced by the many many lisaren posts. You in no way get to judge how people choose to respect someone. Lisa had to make a terrible decision that I hope no one else has to make on this board and we chose to respect and honour her decision. Sorry if you didn't like it. Deal with it.
ETA: sorry @lisaren I didn't see your post until just now. Done commenting on this.
(to make an analogy more complicated. :P )
ETA: because "I don't like the recipe"
Bwwaaaaahaaahaha
I can, however, get behind talking about nachos and cake.
I am a big fan of both.
And pie.
Eta: this was supposed to be quoting @FirstBabyDoyle. 1 Idk what happened to the quote also my phone won't let me delete the 1.
Logan born October 31, 2011
A particular loss was treated differently on this board because there were much different circumstances involved. As someone from this board that experienced a loss, I felt no offense. Support was still offered to me in my time of need (and still being offered regularly by the "cool kids") I understood the difference of this situation.
Where are these "rules" are that you speak of? What are these conformities you insist are demanded?
The board is what you make of it. No one is forcing you to be here. If you don't like the board, don't be on the board. Take a look around some other BMBs..this one is pretty tame.
And with that, I'm out! I don't even go here.
And I simply asked you to respect what the rest of us were doing an stop posting. Get the F over it and move on. I did this in about 3 other threads too. It wasn't an attack as much as a "hey read what's going in" (as if the 4 pages of the same post wasn't a tale tale sign to do some investigating )
I do think what I am concerned about still stands. I think that not everyone is going to follow the unspoken, or even some of the spoken board rules. I think people need to stop being so nit picky.
You belong here. Although I understand the feelings
FFS. Sorry we ruined your talk of maternity pants OP. I don't even know what to say. This is nuts. This board is amazing and supportive of everyone as long as they are supportive and kind in return.
The other post that really bugged me was when someone posted about their good news for the Harmony results and simply asked "anyone else have good news this week?" and another poster jumped down her throat for not seeing "all the other posts with good news" She was just trying to relate to other people!
Maybe I should have just taken it out on the actual posters.
Jeeze.. Imagine that.
I stand firmly behind our decision. This circumstance is different from every other circumstance we've dealt with. And we love our loss mamas--every one of them--thus, trying to set up a donation to March of Dimes in memory of all our November Angel Babies.
If you don't like it here, don't be here...
Mama to sweet baby girl, Emerson Rose, born November 7th, 2014
I agree with banning the OP in the case of her harassing anyone on this board.
Instead of realizing that you mistakenly posted during a time that a large portion of posters agreed to keep the board silent for, you come here and imply that we are the unfeeling assholes? Notice how everyone still posted for the other mama that suffered a loss this weekend? Or maybe you didn't because you were to involved in your posts to notice. Get off you high horse. You are the one being a jerk today.
Andplusalso, bringing up the cray cray banned user in support of your opinion does you no favors at all.