My maternity leave ends in about 6 weeks and I technically have 6 weeks left until the baby is born and then I will lose my job. I'm hoping I'll be able to get unemployment after that but I'm not sure if losing a job due to pregnancy qualifies.
I'm pretty sure you can't get fired for being pregnant. Lawsuit? Or there is way more to this story than what has been provided. How long did you work there? Why are you in leave already?
Agree with pp, we need more details. You cannot legally be fired due to pregnancy. That said, if they are firing you or you choose to leave, no benefits. If they let you go, benefits. That's generally how it works.
You can get unemployment only if you get laid off. If the policy is that you must return after your leave you can ask for additional medical leave but they have the right to deny it depending on circumstances. Why are you on leave already? If doctor's orders are for you to be on leave now and doctor orders you not to work when your leave is up that should qualify you for extended leave...
I was fired while on maternity leave and I received STD and unemployment. this was my situation hope it helps you figure something out!
I had only been working for my company for about 6 months when DS was born so I did not qualify for FMLA since it hadn't been a full year of employment. I had a plan in place with my employer that I would get my full 8 weeks of STD since I had a csection and then I could take 4 more weeks of unpaid maternity leave. when DS was 2-3 weeks old I got a registered letter from my employer that I was terminated because I did not qualify for FMLA and the company decided not to hold my position for me. This is technically legal because I was not covered by FMLA (I have multiple attorneys in my family who all said there was no case) even though I had a plan in place with my employer, nothing was legally holding my job for me. I was still able to receive my full 8 weeks of STD (not sure how that worked, possibly because I enrolled in COBRA?) and I was able to qualify for unemployment because I had a letter of termination I could provide to the Dept of Labor.
so I would think as long as you are provided with a letter of termination, you would be able to apply for unemployment?
I can share what my HR told me when we thought I might have to go out in February (background, we have STD and LTD provided 100% through my company. Also, just a good company to work for, so may be more lenient). I never went to a lawyer, which they suggested I do, since I did not actually have to go out. They gave me a list of three employee rights lawyers who will do initial consultations for free and review your rights in the case. I would suggest trying to google some in your area who may provide the same service.
In PA, FMLA protects you from losing your job for 12 weeks. Short term and long term disability supplement your pay during time off, but do not protect your job.
If you use the 12 weeks FMLA, but still require time off (which after birth, my company does not allow you to work for a minimum of 6 weeks) you will continue to receive short/long term disability. You are entitled to this insurance/ cash supplementation for as long as your doctor says that you are not able to work.
If your employer replaces you after the 12 weeks (which they legally can do) you do qualify for unemployment. There are cases where there is additional protection for disability under ADA laws, but it varies by case. Additional unpaid leave could be considered a reasonable accommodation, but it depends on your company and your position. For me, they would have granted it, because summer is the slow time in the school system. However, if it was September, they may not grant unpaid leave because it represents hardship for them.
Good luck! And again, I would recommend trying to find a lawyer to do an initial consultation just so you know your rights!
Hmmm. Well I've been out on leave since the first week of April due to PIH. My OB said I could go back part time and see how that goes and I talked to my boss, but apparently it's a policy that says if you're hired full time, you have to be there full time. So I stayed out. Then a couple weeks later, my OB said I could go back full time but I have to have two 15 minute breaks. And apparently that's against policy too because our office is so busy, they can't guarantee those breaks, which makes no sense to me because they legally have to give you breaks if you're breastfeeding. But what do I know? So I'm still out on leave. I called HR and left a message asking how much fmla I have left. I think I have five weeks left, which is how much longer I have in this pregnancy. So right after the baby comes, I'd technically have to go back to work. I don't see that happening, which is why I'm curious about the unemployment. My boss told me way back before any of this happened, that I get 12 weeks of fmla in a calendar year, and nothing else. She asked how long I was planning on taking with the baby and I said 12 weeks. She said if I had to have surgery later on, I wouldn't be able to. I have the greatest employer on earth. Note sarcasm. And she said they can post my job after 12 weeks, which I'm almost positive they'll do, because someone just quit and with me out on leave, they're very short-staffed.
I would definitely get in contact with HR and with a lawyer. Under ADA, they have to make reasonable accommodations, and two 15 minute breaks is accommodatable. In fact (this may be PA) in an 8 hour day, an employer must offer one 30 minute unpaid break and two 15 minute paid breaks, by law. This was something I arranged for my CVS employees all the time (a little nuance though - this was created for factory workers, and I have heard of other managers telling staff that they used those breaks when going to the bathroom. We never had a problem in my store allowing for them).
Also - do you have anything in email from your boss? I would also start making sure any communication with her is in writing. If you speak on the phone, follow up with an email summarizing your conversation and state "just summarizing our earlier conversation. Please respond with any misunderstandings" (or something along those lines).
I do not know that there is anything you can do to keep your position for you, but if you can go back now for the next 5 weeks, you would at least have 5 weeks after baby is born.
In any case, you should be able to receive unemployment.
I have a similar this situation so here's what I know...(at least in ohio)
I fell back in August. I hurt my ankle and was off from August until October. Then in December I was having cardiac issues and was taken off work until post partum.
FMLA... Your employer must hold your current position for 12 weeks. After 12 weeks, they do not need to hold your current position but must have one available to you should you come back between 12 and 26 weeks. After 26 weeks they no longer need to hold any position and you are terminated. This is cumulative for a 12 month period (my initial FMLA started in August so any time taken off in a 12 month period, regardless of the reason, will count) Short term/long term disability line up with this.
In my case, I used over half my 12 weeks with my ankle. Then at the end of December my manager no longer needed to hold my position if she didn't want to. Then, mid April I met the 26 week mark and I was terminated. However... Talk to HR because, in my case, for 90 days I'm eligible to apply as an internal candidate and if hired they will simply do the paperwork and it will look like I never left (will still hold all my seniority, etc) --- not sure if this is facility thing?
As far as std/ltd. My std ended mid April when I hit my 26 week mark and my ltd kicked in. I have not tried to get unemployment because i do not need it and my ltd company is ok with me not pursuing it. However, because you are being terminated (and not because of wrong-doing) I would imagine that you should be eligible. Hope that helps a little.
I know you can take FMLA leave (if you and your company qualify) for a variety of reasons, it sounds like you are taking part of that time for the "care and treatment of a serious medical condition", and will have very little left for "baby bonding". I believe STD must be take concurrently with your FMLA (it sounds like you are doing this already). As for qualifying under the ADA for reasonable accommodations (like two 15 min. breaks), I belive that you have to be diagnosed with a qualifying medical condition/disability, and it sounds like your PIH might, but if you are already cleared to go back full time, that might be a moot point). So to me, it sounds like you would just be taking unpaid, uncovered leave after the baby is born to recover and bond, and if you've used up your fmla, and don't have any sick time or vacation you can use, it THINK they can legally terminate you. In that case I believe you would qualify for unemployment, since you were unable to perform you work functions and you were not released for any disciplinary reason.
I would check out the website for the unemployment agency for your state and maybe give them a call to pre-emptively ask. Good luck!
Also, I would NOT mention anything to your employer about collecting unemployment. If you did qualify for it, they would end up having to pay for a portion of it, and that may cause them to "invent" a good reason to terminate you for cause. They will have to complete an interview with the unemployment agency and you don't want them to be on their guard or already trying to preclude you for receiving it.
Am I missing something, or is NJ unique in that after FMLA is done I'm then entitled to NJFLA, which is specifically for baby bonding time? Between FMLA and NJFLA I get 18 weeks of job protection AFTER baby is born, and I'll be going out 4 weeks before my EDD....so total of 22 weeks (24 if I end up having a c/s). Do not all states offer this type of benefit?
Edit: OP, I think we need a little more info. How long have you been out, and by "maternity leave" are you actually referring to FMLA or some other leave benefit?
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And if your company is small enough, you are SOL (like I am in Washington- my company has less than 8 ft employees so I am not offered any leave, even unpaid).
I live in Maine. I work for a doctor's office doing check out. The office is owned by a hospital, so it's all the hospital's policies. And the hospital just happens to be the one I'll be delivering at. My OB has me on bed rest right now for the PIH and low fluid, so I couldn't go back to work now anyway, which sucks because I'm so bored lol.
I would definitely get in contact with HR and with a lawyer. Under ADA, they have to make reasonable accommodations, and two 15 minute breaks is accommodatable. In fact (this may be PA) in an 8 hour day, an employer must offer one 30 minute unpaid break and two 15 minute paid breaks, by law. This was something I arranged for my CVS employees all the time (a little nuance though - this was created for factory workers, and I have heard of other managers telling staff that they used those breaks when going to the bathroom. We never had a problem in my store allowing for them).
Also - do you have anything in email from your boss? I would also start making sure any communication with her is in writing. If you speak on the phone, follow up with an email summarizing your conversation and state "just summarizing our earlier conversation. Please respond with any misunderstandings" (or something along those lines).
I do not know that there is anything you can do to keep your position for you, but if you can go back now for the next 5 weeks, you would at least have 5 weeks after baby is born.
In any case, you should be able to receive unemployment.
Not sure what state you're in OP, but this is also true in California.
So my HR department finally got back to me and said I've used 9 weeks of fmla so far. I'm 35 weeks pregnant. I asked her what happens next and she said I can apply for a medical leave, but it has to get approved by my manager and the administrator and the needs of the office and 9 times out of 10 they don't approve it. And my office is short staffed now because someone left, so I'm probably getting fired in three weeks. Awesome.
Re: Has anyone ever gotten unemployment after losing a job due to pregnancy?
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I had only been working for my company for about 6 months when DS was born so I did not qualify for FMLA since it hadn't been a full year of employment. I had a plan in place with my employer that I would get my full 8 weeks of STD since I had a csection and then I could take 4 more weeks of unpaid maternity leave. when DS was 2-3 weeks old I got a registered letter from my employer that I was terminated because I did not qualify for FMLA and the company decided not to hold my position for me. This is technically legal because I was not covered by FMLA (I have multiple attorneys in my family who all said there was no case) even though I had a plan in place with my employer, nothing was legally holding my job for me. I was still able to receive my full 8 weeks of STD (not sure how that worked, possibly because I enrolled in COBRA?) and I was able to qualify for unemployment because I had a letter of termination I could provide to the Dept of Labor.
so I would think as long as you are provided with a letter of termination, you would be able to apply for unemployment?
Hmmm. Well I've been out on leave since the first week of April due to PIH. My OB said I could go back part time and see how that goes and I talked to my boss, but apparently it's a policy that says if you're hired full time, you have to be there full time. So I stayed out. Then a couple weeks later, my OB said I could go back full time but I have to have two 15 minute breaks. And apparently that's against policy too because our office is so busy, they can't guarantee those breaks, which makes no sense to me because they legally have to give you breaks if you're breastfeeding. But what do I know? So I'm still out on leave. I called HR and left a message asking how much fmla I have left. I think I have five weeks left, which is how much longer I have in this pregnancy. So right after the baby comes, I'd technically have to go back to work. I don't see that happening, which is why I'm curious about the unemployment. My boss told me way back before any of this happened, that I get 12 weeks of fmla in a calendar year, and nothing else. She asked how long I was planning on taking with the baby and I said 12 weeks. She said if I had to have surgery later on, I wouldn't be able to. I have the greatest employer on earth. Note sarcasm. And she said they can post my job after 12 weeks, which I'm almost positive they'll do, because someone just quit and with me out on leave, they're very short-staffed.
I fell back in August. I hurt my ankle and was off from August until October. Then in December I was having cardiac issues and was taken off work until post partum.
FMLA... Your employer must hold your current position for 12 weeks. After 12 weeks, they do not need to hold your current position but must have one available to you should you come back between 12 and 26 weeks. After 26 weeks they no longer need to hold any position and you are terminated. This is cumulative for a 12 month period (my initial FMLA started in August so any time taken off in a 12 month period, regardless of the reason, will count) Short term/long term disability line up with this.
In my case, I used over half my 12 weeks with my ankle. Then at the end of December my manager no longer needed to hold my position if she didn't want to. Then, mid April I met the 26 week mark and I was terminated. However... Talk to HR because, in my case, for 90 days I'm eligible to apply as an internal candidate and if hired they will simply do the paperwork and it will look like I never left (will still hold all my seniority, etc) --- not sure if this is facility thing?
As far as std/ltd. My std ended mid April when I hit my 26 week mark and my ltd kicked in. I have not tried to get unemployment because i do not need it and my ltd company is ok with me not pursuing it. However, because you are being terminated (and not because of wrong-doing) I would imagine that you should be eligible. Hope that helps a little.
I know you can take FMLA leave (if you and your company qualify) for a variety of reasons, it sounds like you are taking part of that time for the "care and treatment of a serious medical condition", and will have very little left for "baby bonding". I believe STD must be take concurrently with your FMLA (it sounds like you are doing this already). As for qualifying under the ADA for reasonable accommodations (like two 15 min. breaks), I belive that you have to be diagnosed with a qualifying medical condition/disability, and it sounds like your PIH might, but if you are already cleared to go back full time, that might be a moot point). So to me, it sounds like you would just be taking unpaid, uncovered leave after the baby is born to recover and bond, and if you've used up your fmla, and don't have any sick time or vacation you can use, it THINK they can legally terminate you. In that case I believe you would qualify for unemployment, since you were unable to perform you work functions and you were not released for any disciplinary reason.
I would check out the website for the unemployment agency for your state and maybe give them a call to pre-emptively ask. Good luck!
Edit: OP, I think we need a little more info. How long have you been out, and by "maternity leave" are you actually referring to FMLA or some other leave benefit?
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