I am a teacher and not really sure if kids are meaner...I do think overall kids are less accountable today. I also think social media allows kids to be more cruel with anonymity.
That being said, I think kids are more sensitive. I find kids/families are so quick to label things as bullying it isn't giving the kids an opportunity to work things out among them self at times.
I think that things don't blow over anymore. Seems like kids just keep picking on other kids until they leave the class/school/playground/group/team. Also I don't remember kids telling other kids to go kill themselves and things of that nature.
In my high school teachers played favorites and some even would partake. This week they were in the news for a losing a lawsuit and having to pay for bullying girls a couple of years ago. One of the girls was even bullied recently at a convention by one of the former teachers! I hear now they take bullying very seriously and even have a hotline setup. I'm glad to see the changes that have been made.
I think kids are meaner and have way more modes of transmission to be mean ie social media. Kids are never out of the loop anymore, it used to take atleast a full school day for rumors to spread and such, now by the time school starts at 7 am everyone already knows everything because they probably checked there phone all thru the night. Plus for some reason I think fear of punishment has really decreased. I used to think twice before what I said and did because I was scared to get suspended or what my dad would do to ground me at home. I don't know if parents aren't punishing there kids as much or differently or what's causing that.
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I am a teacher and not really sure if kids are meaner...I do think overall kids are less accountable today. I also think social media allows kids to be more cruel with anonymity.
That being said, I think kids are more sensitive. I find kids/families are so quick to label things as bullying it isn't giving the kids an opportunity to work things out among them self at times.
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I'm not a teacher but I whole heatedly agree with your comments. I remember when I was younger kids say mean things but it wasn't labeled as "bullying". My parents taught me how to combat those things versus making me into a victim.
Kids are more mean these days. And theres also the use of social media that exacerbates the problem like a pp mentioned.
I don't think it's fair when people label the kid who's bullied as a victim, either. It's pretty insulting and shows a severe lack of empathy. As someone who was bullied in hs, any path that I took to correct it would have just made it worse. It wasn't my parents fault, either. They never knew about it. Many kids who are bullied keep it hidden from their parents.
Kids are more mean these days. And theres also the use of social media that exacerbates the problem like a pp mentioned.
I don't think it's fair when people label the kid who's bullied as a victim, either. It's pretty insulting and shows a severe lack of empathy. As someone who was bullied in hs, any path that I took to correct it would have just made it worse. It wasn't my parents fault, either. They never knew about it. Many kids who are bullied keep it hidden from their parents.
I'm sorry you went through that and that you felt you had no one to turn to. I hope that my kids will feel that they can come to me no matter what the situation is. I know that's easier said than done but it is a goal I have for my family.
I was picked on in HS but some stupid ass girl and because of what my parents taught me I went to the administration's office and reported it. She was suspended for what she did (pushing me/tried to fight me/stole from my locker) and she knew better than to try it again once she came back.
I agree that kids and especially parents are, for a lack of a better term that I can't think of right now, sensitive. Not giving any excuse to true bullying but I do think that kids need to learn to tolerate minor things and defend themselves or they're gonna have problems as an adult in the workforce, adult relationships etc.
It makes me think of that comic strip I saw someone post on FB, it said something like "10 years ago" parents yelling at there child "why did you get bad grades?!" And then in the present, the parents yelling at the teacher, why did my child get bad grades?!
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#1 I think bullying is a catch all term now that isn't always accurate
#2 Kids are less scared of punishment now (from parents, teachers, etc), so they do more of what they want
#3 Social media and cell phones have creates new avenues to harass or bully a person. It's especially easier now, because it can be even more anonymous.
I think it is a combination of things. Children and parents are way too sensitive to things and I think things are too quickly labled as "bullying". I am not a teacher but I have a lot of teacher friends and they say kids are getting worse and worse and it is getting harder and harder to discipline them. Teachers and school districts are becoming too afraid of backlash to really discipline the kids and the kids know it. Also I think parents aren't disciplining kids the way they need to either. I was afraid to do bad things because I knew I would get in trouble at home.
Also, there is no way for kids to get away from the taunting and bullying because of technology and social media. Also the entitlement that the younger generations have still baffles me, and I think it also contributes to the problem.
I am a teacher and not really sure if kids are meaner...I do think overall kids are less accountable today. I also think social media allows kids to be more cruel with anonymity.
That being said, I think kids are more sensitive. I find kids/families are so quick to label things as bullying it isn't giving the kids an opportunity to work things out among them self at times.
I am a teacher. I think it is a few things as others have mentioned.
I think parents are overly sensitive these days and therefore their children are as well. Children run home and tell their parents about every little negative thing at school.
We also have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to physical harm (which is good). But maybe kids these days say and do meaner things because they can't just "fight" it out.
I was slacking today @nnikki10 so no hard feelings.
I feel like that two things are going on. One is that we have really become a victim society and categorize everything as bullying. Most of the time kids just need better coping skills and the ability to stand up for themselves just a little bit.
I also feel like bullying is much more extreme and cruel when it is actually going on. Kids are very mean to each other and it makes me sad. I am shocked the things they say to each other.
I think parents need to be more involved and realize their children are not perfect. We put too much pressure on teachers to control our children. We should try harder to give them a good moral compass.
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In my high school teachers played favorites and some even would partake. This week they were in the news for a losing a lawsuit and having to pay for bullying girls a couple of years ago. One of the girls was even bullied recently at a convention by one of the former teachers! I hear now they take bullying very seriously and even have a hotline setup. I'm glad to see the changes that have been made.
I'm not a teacher but I whole heatedly agree with your comments.
I remember when I was younger kids say mean things but it wasn't labeled as "bullying". My parents taught me how to combat those things versus making me into a victim.
I feel being made fun of will always be around. I think kids need to be taught how to cope.
I don't think it's fair when people label the kid who's bullied as a victim, either. It's pretty insulting and shows a severe lack of empathy. As someone who was bullied in hs, any path that I took to correct it would have just made it worse. It wasn't my parents fault, either. They never knew about it. Many kids who are bullied keep it hidden from their parents.
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I hope that my kids will feel that they can come to me no matter what the situation is. I know that's easier said than done but it is a goal I have for my family.
I was picked on in HS but some stupid ass girl and because of what my parents taught me I went to the administration's office and reported it. She was suspended for what she did (pushing me/tried to fight me/stole from my locker) and she knew better than to try it again once she came back.
It makes me think of that comic strip I saw someone post on FB, it said something like "10 years ago" parents yelling at there child "why did you get bad grades?!" And then in the present, the parents yelling at the teacher, why did my child get bad grades?!
#2 Kids are less scared of punishment now (from parents, teachers, etc), so they do more of what they want
#3 Social media and cell phones have creates new avenues to harass or bully a person. It's especially easier now, because it can be even more anonymous.
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I think it is a combination of things. Children and parents are way too sensitive to things and I think things are too quickly labled as "bullying". I am not a teacher but I have a lot of teacher friends and they say kids are getting worse and worse and it is getting harder and harder to discipline them. Teachers and school districts are becoming too afraid of backlash to really discipline the kids and the kids know it. Also I think parents aren't disciplining kids the way they need to either. I was afraid to do bad things because I knew I would get in trouble at home.
Also, there is no way for kids to get away from the taunting and bullying because of technology and social media. Also the entitlement that the younger generations have still baffles me, and I think it also contributes to the problem.
I agree with this completely.
I think parents are overly sensitive these days and therefore their children are as well. Children run home and tell their parents about every little negative thing at school.
We also have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to physical harm (which is good). But maybe kids these days say and do meaner things because they can't just "fight" it out.
I feel like that two things are going on. One is that we have really become a victim society and categorize everything as bullying. Most of the time kids just need better coping skills and the ability to stand up for themselves just a little bit.
I also feel like bullying is much more extreme and cruel when it is actually going on. Kids are very mean to each other and it makes me sad. I am shocked the things they say to each other.
I think parents need to be more involved and realize their children are not perfect. We put too much pressure on teachers to control our children. We should try harder to give them a good moral compass.