Infertility

Are you kidding me?!

jbasore1123jbasore1123 member
edited May 2014 in Infertility
I got a call from the RE's office about 40 mins ago. We were going over the ER details for tomorrow and she told me that the RE wants to do a freeze all for my embryos. I was shocked as this had never been discussed. Apparently it has nothing to do with my lab work (and he had me do an endometrial biopsy to prepare for the transfer) but because of a new study that came out that says doing a freeze on day 5 after PGD and transferring later increases the odds of success to 78% from 60% with a fresh transfer on day 6. I have no idea what to do and we need to decide tomorrow so I know whether or not to start PIO injections and Estrace this weekend.

If we do a freeze all and one comes back healthy, the soonest we could transfer would be July. However, what if we only have one healthy one and it doesn't survive the thaw? Or even two, and we lose one or both in the thaw? Then we would have wasted this final attempt and I would be livid that we didn't transfer.

If we decide to do a fresh transfer on day 6 (again, if we get a healthy embryo), we run the risk of the embryo arresting between day 5 and 6 or possibly not implanting because it had been out of my body too long. My doc had never been too concerned about this before, apparently, until this study. However, during our first IVF we had 3 beautiful embryos that we tested on day 5 and 2 still looked perfect the next day (they just weren't healthy for transfer).

I am so f-ing sick of something coming up and being a road block. I am sick of this journey. I just want a flipping child.

I need advice. What would you do?



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BFP #1, 10/03/2012 - EDD 6/15/2013 - MMC 11/15/2012 - D&C 01/04/2013

BFP #2, 04/06/2013 - EDD 12/17/2013 - MC 04/19/2013

6/12/2013 Diagnosed with Balanced Translocation (12 & 16)

IVF #1 with PGS: 10/2013: Canceled 9/27/2013 for issues with genetic lab

IVF #1.5 with PGS: 11/16/2013: Canceled. 11 eggs retrieved, 9 mature & 9 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

IVF #2: 1/22/14: Canceled. 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 7 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

IVF #3 with PGS: 5/10/2014: Switched to FET in July. 10 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 8 fertilized, 2 healthy embryos!

FET #1: 7/31/2014: Transferred 2 nearly perfect (6AA, 6BA) healthy embryos- BFFN

Laproscopy: 10/2014: Healthy uterus

IVF #4: 12/8/2014: Canceled. 17 eggs retrieved, 15 mature, 10 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos



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Re: Are you kidding me?!

  • jbasore1123jbasore1123 member
    edited May 2014
    I have no idea what their process is since we never talked about freezing before.

    TTC since April 2012

    BFP #1, 10/03/2012 - EDD 6/15/2013 - MMC 11/15/2012 - D&C 01/04/2013

    BFP #2, 04/06/2013 - EDD 12/17/2013 - MC 04/19/2013

    6/12/2013 Diagnosed with Balanced Translocation (12 & 16)

    IVF #1 with PGS: 10/2013: Canceled 9/27/2013 for issues with genetic lab

    IVF #1.5 with PGS: 11/16/2013: Canceled. 11 eggs retrieved, 9 mature & 9 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

    IVF #2: 1/22/14: Canceled. 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 7 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

    IVF #3 with PGS: 5/10/2014: Switched to FET in July. 10 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 8 fertilized, 2 healthy embryos!

    FET #1: 7/31/2014: Transferred 2 nearly perfect (6AA, 6BA) healthy embryos- BFFN

    Laproscopy: 10/2014: Healthy uterus

    IVF #4: 12/8/2014: Canceled. 17 eggs retrieved, 15 mature, 10 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos



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  • They dont... we are paying OOP for PGD testing through Genesis Genetics because they were the only clinic that would give us a 24 hour turnaround for results so we could do a fresh transfer

    TTC since April 2012

    BFP #1, 10/03/2012 - EDD 6/15/2013 - MMC 11/15/2012 - D&C 01/04/2013

    BFP #2, 04/06/2013 - EDD 12/17/2013 - MC 04/19/2013

    6/12/2013 Diagnosed with Balanced Translocation (12 & 16)

    IVF #1 with PGS: 10/2013: Canceled 9/27/2013 for issues with genetic lab

    IVF #1.5 with PGS: 11/16/2013: Canceled. 11 eggs retrieved, 9 mature & 9 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

    IVF #2: 1/22/14: Canceled. 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 7 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

    IVF #3 with PGS: 5/10/2014: Switched to FET in July. 10 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 8 fertilized, 2 healthy embryos!

    FET #1: 7/31/2014: Transferred 2 nearly perfect (6AA, 6BA) healthy embryos- BFFN

    Laproscopy: 10/2014: Healthy uterus

    IVF #4: 12/8/2014: Canceled. 17 eggs retrieved, 15 mature, 10 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos



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  • katib77katib77 member
    Most all do vitrification now, so if you're doing 6dt already - I would do freeze all. The worst part of all this is any making it to day 6 which you're already doing so...I do know there has been a lot of recent studies showing higher success with FET. I hated when we were switched to it, but it was what was best.

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  • pjpahelpjpahel member
    I'm sorry this has been placed on you at the last minute, and when you are already so stressed (rightfully so).

    I think it would be STANDARD for your RE to talk with you directly about this, rather then having his staff mention it on the fly.  It's a big decision, and you deserve to have your questions answered and a real medical discussion about this. 

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     IVF #2: Follistim/Ganirelix: 11 retrieved, 1 perfect embie transferred = BFP Willow 4/14/11 
    FET #1: 2 frosties, neither survived the thaw
     IVF #3 Bravelle/Menopur/Ganirelix 4 retrieved, 1 perfect embie transferred = BFN 
    IVF #4 Microdose Lupron/Bravelle/Menopur: 8 retrieved, 6 fertilized, 2 transferred, 2 Frozen: Beta 1: 63, #2: 51, #3:148 #4: 537 #5 2204.  US #1: very small gestational sac.  US#2: Empty sac 

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  • ttc23ttc23 member
    If it was me I might consider doing a day 6 transfer if there were more than 3-4 good embryos and a freeze all if there were less. I tend to hedge my bets as I get too nervous when I go all one way or the other. I hope that doesn't make it harder on you but best of luck with whatever option you choose x

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    Diagnosed with unexplained infertility---
    Clomid cycle 1 in Feb 2013- BFN---
    Clomid cycle 2 in Mar 2013- BFN---
    IVF #1 in May 2013- BFN---
    IVF #2 in August 2013-BFN---
    Endometrial biopsy identified high natural killer cells---
    FET #1 in Oct 2013-delayed---
    FET #1 in Nov 2013 with Intralipids-BFN---
    FET #2 in January 2014- BFN---

    IVF #3 in March 2014 (new doctor new plan)-BFFN
    IVF #4 in June 2014 (last cycle with own eggs)- BFN
    IVF #5 in September 2014 (with donor eggs)- BFP plus 6 frozen blasts :)

     


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