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Dental cement question

TheBubTheBub member
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@quidditchcapn1120‌ or any other dentists. I have a permanent retainer on the top and bottom. One end of the bottom retainer breaks has the cement break off once every couple years. The retainer doesn't move, just a tiny piece of the cement chips away leaving the sharp edge of the wire sticking out. Is there something that I can buy to fix this on my own at home. I HATE having to make an appt, rearrange schedules, and pay $85 (they charge me as though they are filling a cavity) for a fix that will take literally five minutes.

I'm in no way trying to do my own dental work, I just want to be able to take care of such a tiny problem on my own. Thanks!

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  • TheBubTheBub member
    DH said that, but I don't want it out. I have shifting with my top teeth. There are spaces on both sides where the retainer ends. My brother has it too.

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  • 1Panda1Panda member
    Hi! I work for an orthodontist as an assistant. There is not anything I am aware of that you can purchase that will bond to your tooth like the material your dentist uses. You could try calling a local orthodontist, since that is who typically places those types of retainers, but I suspect it will be more than $85 to repair if you went that route. In the meantime, if you have a removable retainer that slides over the bonded one, you should wear that to prevent any tooth movement.
    I've seen @jillyjill1026sr‌ mention she is also an assistant, and may be able to give some insight or different perspective...
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  • TheBubTheBub member
    @1Panda‌ There won't be any tooth movement. It is just the tiniest little bit on the end of the wire. Just enough to have already torn my tongue to shreds.

    I looked on amazon and found a couple of things for crown reattachment. All of the reviews talk about crowns, none mention retainers.

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  • jillyjill1026srjillyjill1026sr member
    There is nothing that I can think of for you to buy. Do you have any ortho wax to at least protect your tongue for the time being? I've never worked for an orthodontist, but it seems a bit strange that they charge you if this keeps happening.
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  • TheBubTheBub member
    The retainer is fine. There's nothing shitty about it. It is just the very teensiest end of it.

    I am going to call tomorrow to confirm the cost. Maybe they won't charge me since it has happened before.

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  • littlemermaidlittlemermaid member
    How about using that ortho wax that people with braces use so the metal doesn't cut the inside of their mouth.
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  • quidditchcapn1120quidditchcapn1120 member
    Hi! Sorry for the late response, took boards this morning.

    There isn't anything you can buy that would be similar to that because fixed retainers are fixed into place with composite (white filling material) and not dental cement.

    In case anyone is wondering, I don't recommend those temporary cements for lost crowns for a couple of reasons. The first one is if your crown fell off because of a cavity, you are sealing in bacteria which can put you at risk for progression to needing a root canal or a retreatment of a root canal if you've already had one. The other reason is if the crown doesn't go on correctly you could break the crown and then you would have to buy a new one.

    As far as the retainer I also wouldn't recommend having it removed as research is showing most people need lifetime retention to prevent movement of their teeth. If it keeps happening, it is one of a few things. 1: your orthodontist is not keeping the area dry enough when bonding it. 2: are you eating hard things? Hard candy, ice, etc? Those things can break the bond. 3: you are biting on the retainer, which would only happen for a bottom fixed retainer if you have an underbite.

    Hope that helps!
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    Regal Mama said:


    quidditchcapn1120 said:

    Hi! Sorry for the late response, took boards this morning.

    There isn't anything you can buy that would be similar to that because fixed retainers are fixed into place with composite (white filling material) and not dental cement.

    In case anyone is wondering, I don't recommend those temporary cements for lost crowns for a couple of reasons. The first one is if your crown fell off because of a cavity, you are sealing in bacteria which can put you at risk for progression to needing a root canal or a retreatment of a root canal if you've already had one. The other reason is if the crown doesn't go on correctly you could break the crown and then you would have to buy a new one.

    As far as the retainer I also wouldn't recommend having it removed as research is showing most people need lifetime retention to prevent movement of their teeth. If it keeps happening, it is one of a few things. 1: your orthodontist is not keeping the area dry enough when bonding it. 2: are you eating hard things? Hard candy, ice, etc? Those things can break the bond. 3: you are biting on the retainer, which would only happen for a bottom fixed retainer if you have an underbite.

    Hope that helps!

    I've been having problems with my teeth since they moved despite having a bonded retainer.  One of my teeth has moved so much I may lose it completely because of tissue loss.  My new orthodontist said they are not putting them in anymore and sticking to removable ones because they are so difficult to clean and are leading to major health concerns (heart disease and pre-term labour were two that he mentioned).  He said that now that we know that oral health is linked to the body they really don't recommend them anymore.  I just had mine removed with the hope that the teeth shift back, if not I'm getting braces again at the age of 30.


    It sounds like one of the teeth got debonded from the retainer. I think it depends on the orthodontist on what type they recommend. I only work with kids and those retainers are a bitch to take care of so I don't recommend them for my patients. Myself and DH have them though, but I can scale them myself.
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