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Daycare food plans - advice for the "granola" mom

Hi all--longtime lurker, first-time poster.

My 10-month-old DD has been in daycare since 9 weeks. We're generally pleased with the arrangement. However (and you know there's always a however) ...

We're getting close to 1-year transition time as far as the meal plan goes. We started purees at 6 months, and she's now picking at some small, soft table foods--usually just fruits and veggies. But bottles (currently slowly weaning off pumping to formula) are still the main nutrition source.

(I recognize that everyone has different preferences, but we make an effort to minimize processed foods and preservatives when possible. We try to maintain organic, grow veg, raise our own chickens, etc.)

So DC is pushing to get DD on the "regular" food program in advance of her move-up. The menu is, of course, totally in accordance with federal guidelines ... but I think that leaves a lot to be desired. Basically, I don't want her going from breastmilk to eating soft pretzels and (heavily processed, chemical-laden, neon-orange) artificial cheese sauce.

They also require she be totally on whole cow's milk as of 1 year, when our pedi said we should start introducing WCM at 1 year.

So ... Anybody else get a little philosophically stuck at this point? How did you handle it? Do I need to just get with the program? Take a big ol' chill pill? Seek an in-home that allows us to provide our own food?

Talk me down, please, mamas.
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  • I'll be honest, none of that would fly with me. LO gets what I provide, when I provide it, and I'm not interested in arguing about it. We did not consider any place with rigid rules about food. If they won't accommodate your preferences I would find somewhere else.
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  • I would start by checking if you can bring LO's own food and milk. If not, I might look around for other child care options.

    Is there a PTO where you might get involved and make changes for the good of all the children?
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  • Food was a big factor for me. I wanted to be able to bring my own lunch. Snacks that the school provided needed to be healthy. I don' t consider myself militant when it comes to what they eat, but I wanted to ensure they ate well and varied for most of their meals. Fake cheese freaks me out---and in my opinion ballpark food is a treat not a snack. Also, Personally pushing my infant to eat foods I am not ready for = bad. Daycares are getting better about eating cleaner.
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  • Talk to them. It turned out they we anted dd in a sippy cup at one year, so they just put BM in the cup until I transitioned her. I send dds food for the reasons OP described. I explained it and got a doctors note for a reduced sugar/non processed diet. I do allow certain meals/snacks but it's all preapproved by me.
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  • Just talk to them.  If you're allowed to bring your own foods, then it shouldn't be a problem.  We get the menu a month out and they really do a good job putting together balanced, healthy meals at DD's school.  If not, I wouldn't be happy at all. 

    Sure, she gets her once per week pizza, but there is no way I'm denying her that.  Are you certain they eat the crap you mentioned in your child's 1 yr old classroom?  Processed cheese?  Are you sure?  That sounds excessive. 

     

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    I'm not comfortable with daycare telling me when I will transition my child.  DD, for example, has a very sensitive gag reflex and has struggled with solid food.  There is no way she'll be ready for daycare meals at 1.

    That being said, you need to find out how much leeway you have with your daycare.  Are they 100% against parent's bring in outside food?  Are they fine with you providing meals/snacks?  If they are willing to work with your desires then I see no reason to look for alternate care.

    I don't love all of the meals/snacks our daycare provides - corn dogs, cookies for snack, etc. but not all the meals/snacks are bad and we eat home cooked healthy meals at home so I'm fine with DS eating the provided food.

    Definitely talk to the director in a non-confrontational way - more like you don't know how it works and are curious.  See how they handle it and go from there.
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    I posted a thread on this a while back which you can probably find if you search my history. Agree with PP that transitioning LO to WCM by 1 year is a little extreme when most people don't start the transition until that point. What will happen if you delay the transition? Would it delay her moving up to the next room?

    At DS's daycare, in order to move to the 12-18 month room, he needed to be on table food and whole milk because that class eats in the cafeteria with the other kids. He ended up moving at around 15 months not because he wasn't ready but because a space didn't open up until then.

    I am also a little similar to you in that I try and be careful what I feed my DS. When he was on baby food, I made some of his food myself and tried to only buy organic baby food. I am also not crazy about the DC food but mainly because they feed him canned fruit instead of fresh fruit. However, my DS is a picky eater and consistently 1% in weight. He consistently eats well at DC but eats very little at home. And honestly, it was too much work for me to pack his lunch every day. I have finally just given up and accepted that he will eat processed stuff etc. at DC and at this point, I am just happy if he eats anything.

    Since food is so important to you, I would ask about bringing your own food and if they don't allow it, you will have to decide if that's a deal breaker for you.

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  • DS is 14 months and for now I am still allowed to send my own food but I have a feeling that changes once he turns 2.  He is only in DC 2 days a week so I try to be flexible,. I have highlighted things on the menu that I am ok with him eating...if he has mac and cheese with peas once a week will it kill him? Absolutely not. I am wary of them telling you your LO has to be on WCM by 1, no exceptions. I would talk to them and see if they are willing to work with you where you can send your own milk/food for awhile.

    That being said...alot of the reason they prefer children to eat the food they serve is because of the vast range of allergies out there. Our school is nut free...however, most parents dont realize that things that dont have nuts in them can actually still have nut exposure due to where it is made and that can seriously harm other children. As a parent, I wouldnt expect those who dont have to deal with allergies to think of that...but I personally know we pay very close to attention to labels (for example we can use Betty Crocker when baking but not Duncan Heinz, although DH recently did change their labels). So i would just be sensitive to that. if you arent ok with that, maybe it is time to look for a nanny or a smaller in home where they are more flexible.
  • I totally understand how you feel and you are not wrong.  We did BLW, so I sent all of DS's food until he moved to the 12-18 month room.  I really, really wanted to continue sending all of his food, but I just don't have the time (or enough ideas) to send food that is easy to prepare and serve.  Our daycare has typical "kid" food on their menu usually (spaghetti, steak fingers, pizza, corn dogs).  Even if its remotely healthy, I know its probably the most processed version available.  I hate that he eats such crap during the day but I've had to live with it.  I do, however, send a snack for him every day, usually fruit and cheese.  They serve crackers, pretzels, or goldfish.  To me that is just not acceptable.  Plus, I don't really know how 1 year olds eat a pretzel?!  Also, we bring in our own milk and he is not allowed to have juice.

    I think its important that you find a place that will listen and help you find solutions to the issues you raise.  My daycare has always tried to accommodate my wishes.  Like PPs said, just go in and talk with them.
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  • Most centers that have a "no outside food" policy make plenty of exceptions - you just need to provide a religious (ie - kosher), moral (ie - vegetarian), or health based reason, usually with a Dr's note. Really, they just want to make sure you're not bringing in peanuts or whoopers and if some other kid swipes your kid's food or cup, that they can point to you & your special needs as the culprit, not their liberal food policies. 

    Regarding milk, they probably want your kid out of bottles by 1 and care less about what's in the cup, because realistically - not all kids are able to drink cow's milk. Some are allergic, some have vegan parents, some are intolerant - it's just not practical that the center would get 100% compliance with that. If you're cool with a sippy cup, then just put your BM in that. We did goat milk for awhile when my kid had a bad reaction to cow milk. It was expensive for us but saved DD a lot of pain and saved the DCP from hearing a lot of crying. 

    Just about any center will work with you. What's the alternative? Only take families without any religious, moral, personal, or health based reasons to eat differently? Kids with allergies not welcome? That's not good for business.
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  • I totally get your concerns...my kid's DC provides all food because as PP said, it's nut free and they can't expect non allergy parents to even every label or understand all the ways nuts can sneak into food.  I most definitely did not get that myself until my DD was diagnosed with a Peanut allergy.  I remember being frustrated once when I wanted to send in a birthday treat for my older non allergic DS (prior to DD being born) but I couldn't find one that didn't have a peanut warning on it.  I would LOVE to be that naive again!

    Our DC does a good job of attempting to put together decent meals for the kids and they will not allow outside food at all, due to allergies.  It's a deal breaker for the school and one that I am so grateful for.  I don't know how stressed I would be every day at work if I thought my DD could be sitting beside a friend eating peanut butter and helping herself to some.  Once she's older, she can learn not to share food...but in preschool, this is just really dangerous.

    So, like I said, I completely understand your point...just wanted to echo PP's point about the allergy issue...it's so helpful to us to have DC's be strict with this as it really can be life or death for our LO's.
  • Before reading the rest of the responses... Part of my decision in where DS was enrolled was the food policy. They have a weekly meal rotation, but they do allow parents to bring food from home. So we're at the point where I send a note to DS' teachers every day. Some days he can eat the meal the center provides (like when they have fish sticks and broccoli), and sometimes he eats what I send with him. It's kind of a hassle, but it's better than knowing he's eating stuff that I would never feed him - or myself - at home.

    And yeah, the milk thing is ridiculous.




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  •  Are you certain they eat the crap you mentioned in your child's 1 yr old classroom?  Processed cheese?  Are you sure?  That sounds excessive. 


    They serve Kraft Mac n Cheese as a side at DS' daycare. Most of their meals are pretty balanced, but there are things like that also on the menu.



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  • My opinion is that you have to pick your battles, and decide which things you really want to try to dig your heels in on if they have a lot of food related policies. My DCP doesnt allow anyone to bring in food but it is also known around the area as the best place for kids w/ allergies as a result, the parents of kids w/ nut allergies look to go there b/c they know they are rigid about it.  My kids don't have allergies but I can appreciate that.

    I brought organic milk until my kids were about 2 1/2. At that point, they really drank very little milk at school  (neither one really likes it all that much) so I stopped bringing it and I serve organic at home when they want milk. The food at our DCP is ok, much better than a lot of them even though there are things I could do without but not something I'm too worried about. They serve fresh fruits & vegetables and whole grain items and also some similar processed items that I also give my 4 yr olds (eg goldfish) so I'm obviously not super conscious of that anyway.

    On the CM thing, you can still give bottles at home before & after school/daycare so it isn't that they're saying your child has to be on 100% CM all the time, just in their setting. If you were plannign to transition anyway, then maybe view it as they'll be helping you w/ that transition by giving it to LO during the day but you can still feel ok about supplementing at home w/ whatever else. ? just a thought. And if LO rejects the CM at school at first, you know s/he is getting some at home, and also, they are not going to be malnourished if they don't drink milk b/w the hours of 8 & 5 for a couple weeks, assuming LO is eating/drinking something else during that time...just my .02 & how I approached it when my kids refused sippy cups around age 1, I would still give them a bottle at night and know they were getting something, but at some point they would make the transition & that time period was not going to cause any sort of major harm to them.
    GL!

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