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I hate how IF makes are feelings go so up and down... (vent)

Although I am typically a positive person, I have been overall pretty cynical with my IF. But I feel like in a way I'm protecting myself by not getting my hopes up. But what is it about IF that every single month we still manage to get a little hope again?? Last month was canceled for my fourth IUI because I didn't respond to meds. Today I went for my follicle scan for the next cycle and things are looking good.. I got the call to trigger Saturday and go in Monday for IUI and I am feeling elated and ecstatic... I feel like the month with my canceled cycle was so loooong and as a result I'm feeling the same kind of uplifted feeling that I did when we did our first IUI after surgery. And I'm sort of mad at myself for feeling sort of excited because that just means I'll be that much more let down if it's another BFN. I think it's the constant and extreme highs and lows of this journey that are soooooo difficult. Like maybe if I could keep my expectations super low it would be easier to handle. I'm just venting!

Me: 32  DH: 33  Married: March 2004

July 2006: started TTC
2008: HSG (normal), couple rounds of clomid through gyno
2008 - 2010: dragging my feet out of fear and procrastination
October 2010: first consultation with RE, dx PCOS and fibroids (DH slightly low count/motility)
Oct. 2010 - Dec. 2012:  In DENIAL! avoided the issue because I was scared of surgery
January 2013: returned to RE, fibroids grew significantly
February 2013: second HSG, fibroids pushed on tubes which blocked them somewhat
March 2013: MRI to determine what type of surgery may be necessary

July 29, 2013: fibroids (5) removed via robotic laparascopy
August 2013 - Nov 2013 : benched due to recent surgery

IUI #1, Dec. 24, 2013, BFN 
IUI #2, Jan. 25, 2014, BFN
IUI #3, Feb. 25, 2014  BFN
IUI #4 canceled due to lack of response to letrozole
IUI #4.1 April 28, 2014, BFN

May 16, 2014: wtf consult, start prepping for IVF in June and add injects for one last IUI in the meantime
IUI #5 started letrozole and bravelle but canceled after HSG led to new diagnosis

May 21, 2014: third HSG, tubes blocked, one at the beginning, one hydrosalpinx??
June 11, 2014: consult, approved to move on to IVF because the hydro is not completely blocked therefore allowing fluid to move through slowly rather than backwards
IVF #1 August 8, 2014 - 3dt of 2 embryos, BFN
September 17, 2014 - 4th HSG, the right tube is very patent (open!!) dye went straight through this time. Weird!
October 2, 2014 - started metformin treatment
November 14, 2014 - blood work, brought A1C down from 5.8 to 5.5

November 26, 2014 - RE finally back from vaca and reviewed my chart, no more IVFs for rest of calendar year
December 1, 2014 - Right after Thanksgiving, I called a new clinic and got in right away! Plan for IVF
December 17, 2014 - ER! 29 retrieved (!!), 16 mature, all 16 fertilized (ICSI)

IVF #2 December 20, 2014 - 3dt of 3 embryos, BFN

We are done with treatment unsuccessfully. :(


PAIF/SAIF/All Welcome!

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Re: I hate how IF makes are feelings go so up and down... (vent)

  • I totally get it! You are not alone!! At the start of this IVF cycle I was feeling like it was a sure bet, and now I'm so negative it's ridiculous. I think it's like you said though--being negative to protect ourselves from the letdown. ((Hugs))
    *************WARNING CP mentioned***********
    TTC since 12/2012 Me: hypothyroid & egg issues
    DH: MFI
    IUI #1 BFN
    2nd treatment cycle: Clomid & TI BFN
    IUI #2 (injects) IUI BFN
    2/14 through 3/14 benched with a cyst
    IVF#1 CD1 came before beta. BFN. No frosties.
    Benched with cysts...
    IVF#2 beta moved up due to heavy bleeding 6dp5dt...beta was 11. beta#2 20.4! Beta#3 28 Chemical pregnancy :(
    Currently on BCPs with cysts, planning IVF#3 Everyone welcome!
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  • I get it, me and DH were just talkin about me not expecting anything because im so used to being shot down. Just do what feels right for you and helps you get theough everything!!. ((Hugs))
  • I know exactly how you feel!  Even though I got the same BFN every cycle I still couldn't help but feel so excited every time I saw a positive OPK and we had good timing.  For this IUI cycle, things did not go as planned and I'm not even convinced the IUI happened on the right day but that didn't prevent me from being so excited to go in and do it.  I try so hard to keep my expectations low so the disappointment is easier to deal with, but there is such a fine line between being realistic and pessimistic. 
    I figure as long as I can keep hoping then I know this challenging journey is still worth the ups and downs.  Hugs!

    Me (29): Hashimoto's, CD3/7DPO bloodwork & ultrasound normal, HSG & SHG(x2) all clear
    DH (29): SA Perfect
    TTC Since Jan '13, First RE Appt Jan '14
    DX: Unspecified Ovarian Dysfunction, Long Cycles
    May '13 BFP, C/P 4w3d
    Apr '14:  50mg clomid + ovidrel + B2B IUI #1=BFP,  Natural M/C 6.5wks
    Aug '14: 50mg clomid + ovidrel + B2B IUI #2=BFN
    Oct '14: 100mg clomid + ovidrel + IUI#3 =BFN
    Nov 14: 100mg clomid + ovidrel + B2B IUI#4=slow response, bad lining, cancelled
    FU with RE, more bloodwork: Anticardiolipin +
    Dec 14: 5mg Letrozole+baby aspirin +ovidrel + B2B IUI#4.1=BFFN
    Jan '15: 5mg Letrozole +baby aspirin + ovidrel +B2B IUI #5= BFP!! 
    Beta #1 210  Beta #2 546


  • IF is a rollercoaster of emotions.  Hope is always a good thing.  Even if it makes the fall hurt more.

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    Trying to get knocked up since June 2012 ~ Dx: PCOS

    BFP 7.24.13 ~ EDD 4.2.14 ~ m/c  9.16.13 @ 11w4d

    BFP 5.4.14 ~ EDD 1.12.15 ~ stick little bean!

    TTGP 2013 Best Blog ~ Fruit ~ My BFP Chart 

  • Very relatable. I have my hopes super high that somehow this last cycle before testing will magically work, even though we had terrible timing and I have already had some cramping and spotting. 

    I usually ask DH to give me all the reasons why I'm most likely NOT KU just to help manage my expectations a bit. It can be a downer, but realistically talking about your chances can be helpful to reduce the "hope bubble" so that when it bursts, it hurts a bit less.
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    Me & DH: 24 Married: 5/11
    Started TTC: 12/12 Testing Started: 5/14
    Dx: Irregular Ovulation, possible PCOS
    Treatment starting July '14: Letrozole + Trigger + TI
    Surprise natural BFP right before starting meds!!!!!- EDD 3/7/15

  • I totally understand your feeling! I try to have really, really low (nonexistent) expectations for the short-term (this cycle, the next few months of planned interventions), but the super positive expectations for the long-term, inaccessible future (I will eventually have a child or get through the grief and accept childlessness).

    It's really mixed up and I have to make sure not to bash our short-term chances too much or DH might start making noises about why are we spending all this money, haha.

    But...it's super exciting that everything is going well for this IUI, especially after your last was cancelled, so I guess it's normal to be excited and hopeful about those small victories, even if they are not the final prize in hand quite yet!

    Good luck this weekend. :)
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
    ***All Welcome***
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    IF is a total emotional roller coast....if I get good news like a positive opk or even an elevated BBT I'm in a great mood but let my temps. :((
    I've said it before I'm IF's bitch.
    Me: +35 DH: +35
    TTC: Since January 2013 
    DX: PCOS. Severe Endometriosis, Unicornuate Uterus w/only left tube and left ovary, Pedunculated fibroid (on the outside of uterus) and Anovulation. All conditions diagnosed 8/13
    TX: Metformin
    DH DX: MFI - low morphology, low motility
    Ultrasound shows both kidneys in spite of UU. 
    HSG showed clear tube on the left side. 
    Lap Surgery performed 1/9/14 to remove fibroid and endo (Stage 3)
    • IUI# 1 June 2014 started 100 mg of Clomid - 7dpiui Progesterone: 13: BFN
    • IUI#2  July 2014 started 100 mg of Clomid - 7dpiui Progesterone: 5.75: BFN
    • Natural Cycle - so shocked to be in 2WW - 7dpo Progesterone: 15.5: BFN
    • Working with new RE starting injectables in late August.
    • IUI #3 August 2014  w/ Menopur: BFN
    • Finally ovulating on my own!!
    Waiting to start IVF hopefully
    **********All Are Welcome**************
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  • I feel the same way. No matter how much I tell myself "this isn't the month", I still feel super disappointed when I get the BFN. And then I just get so frustrated. I hate it. I'm sorry you're feeling down :(
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • It really is a crazy rollercoaster.  Some cycles I have managed to keep my expectations low, but the BFN didn't hurt much less than when I was optimistic.

    The BFN for my first IUI may have been the hardest, b/c I had somehow believed that the meds and IUI would magically give us a BFP on our first try.  Lol.  The most recent cycle was also one when I was nearly certain that I was pregnant.  At one point I even speculated that we may be having twins!  Haha.  IF totally messes with your head!!

    Hope is always good, even if you are let down.  At least the feeling of optimism allows you feel better at that time, rather than miserable the whole time.  During one of my cycles when I was feeling pretty negative, this board was the absolute best, offering their hope for me when I couldn't.  I put the same out there for you: if you are scared to hope, let us hope for you. *Hugs*
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    ME: 34, Atypical PCOS (lean, no O without meds) + unexplained; DH: 33, mildly low motility
    09/2012: Start TTC after stopping NuvaRing.  No cycles seemed to occur.
    01/2013 - 05/2013: Tried Provera to "jumpstart" cycles. No luck.
    12/2013-
    01/2014: Clomid 50mg - no big follies, stepped to 100mg; One mature follie, Ovidrel (HCG trigger), IUI #1 completed - BFN
    02/2014: Clomid 100mg;
    One mature follie, Ovidrel trigger, IUI #2 completed, Crinone - BFN
    03/2014: Clomid 100mg -
    no big follies on 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; One mature follie, Ovidrel, IUI #3 completed, Crinone - BFN
    04/2014-05/2014: Letrozole 5mg + Ovidrel HG to prep for IUI #4 switched to TI, Crinone - BFN
    05/2014-06/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #4.1 completed, Crinone - BFN
    07/2014-08/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #5 completed, Crinone - BFN
    09/2014-10/2014: IVF Prep - Insurance requires IUI #6;
    Letrozole 5mg - no big follies 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; IUI #6, Crinone - BFN
    11/2014: "Break" - Letrozole 5mg to cycle before prepping for IVF - successfully O'ed, but BFN
    12/2014: Extending 'break' one more Letrozole-only TI cycle for mental health break - BFN
    01/2015-
    02/2015: Prep for IVF - BCP then Gonal-F, Ganirelex, Novarel trigger;  ER scheduled 2/11!
    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4cf919
    PAIF/SAIF Welcome.
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  • I tell myself every month, don't get your hopes up, then I do and I'm devastated.  This journey that I have been on has taken pieces of me away that I will never get back.  My husband and I were talking the other day and he mentioned that because of this when I do get pregnant I won't even be able to enjoy the pregnancy.  I'm thinking to myself "when"??? ...... no it is "if".  Every month that goes by another piece is taken away from me.  I don't really know how much more I can take.  
    Fucking bump!!!!
  • All of these replies got it right on... I have become a person who I don't want to be and I'm only on cycle 14. Negative, bitter, flat out mean about stuff. Truthfully, I don't know if it will ever get any easier or less devastating but I just know some how, some day we will get our baby and all this shit will be worth it. I saw a post about 6 months in that really stuck with me and I wrote it in my notebook "I feel like I need to be hopeful, because of not, why am I doing this?" Do what you need to do to make sure you take care of yourself and are a priority. Self preservation is so important on this insane ride.

    Trying to have baby #1 since April 2013

    DH SA March,May 2014 - Low motility and shape issues. On vitamins per RE to help

    Me testing April 3, 2014 - FSH and LH good, HSG showed blocked right tube

    April 29, 2014 - First RE appt., right tube needs to be removed and possibly left also if

    it's bad too. RE suggests going straight to IVF

    June 4, 2014 - LAP/HSC and unexpected endo. removed but tubes got to stay!

    June 13, 2014 - Post-Op appointment. We decide where to go next since main issue

    is MFI influenced. Trying naturally until decision... Repeat SA  in September. Aiming for IUI #1 November 2014.

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  • I can 100% relate. When we first started, my RE was so optimistic and so were we. I do have some hope every cycle. With every IUI I have hope that something will work. I didn't understand folks who were snarky when we first started. My thought was, hey, you're trying to make a baby, why so snarky? Oh how naive I was! Today, literally, I am coming to embrace my snarky side. She is setting up camp in my head as we speak. Being snarky is not me at all. IF changes you permanently I believe. I have heard that even after having kids, it does not fade.

    Over on the LGBT board, new folks are always super excited to be getting started with ICI or IUI. Sadly, my first thought is "you just wait for what's in store". Sad but true. I was one of those excited and optimistic people once.

    I was having a bad day last week and thought about how excited I was after my lap and hysteroscopy. I was just waking up from the meds and I made C give me a high five for our renewed chance at baby making. That was almost 6 months ago. I cried and got angry when I thought about it.

    Big hugs coming your way!

    Me: 30  DW (aka C): 29

    Together since 2/15/11 ~ Legally married in NY on 9/29/12

    ***CP mentioned***

    We've been working on baby #1 since July 2013 using Open ID donor sperm.  8 IUI attempts with 5 actual IUIs and one chemical pregnancy.  We have one fresh IVF cycle under our belts as well as a FET.  I have endometriosis and a uterine septum that was corrected via surgery in November 2013. 

    11/14/14 -  Second HSG shows that tubes are still clear and ute is looking good. 

    12/6/14 - Started BCPs in prep for IVF #2

    12/22/14 - Saline u/s and endometrial scratch (All was clear and OUCH!)

    1/2/15 - Began stimming for IVF #2

     ****All Welcome!****

    We are Mommas to four fur babies - 3 dogs and 1 cat.

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