Trouble TTC

I just need to vent (pregnancy and losses mentioned)

I'm sorry it's long.

A little back story. I have a friend that I use to do things with a lot. Last year I had surgery on my head and she never even asked how I was doing. Then I got preg and she never said congrats or even acknowledge it. Then when I miscarried not even an "I'm sorry". All last year I only saw her when I had a cookout pool party otherwise never heard a peep from her. Fast forward 2 more miscarriages and I had a brunch at my house and my meds were delivered for my first med cycle so I came clean about it all. Everyone of course said I'm sorry and good luck, except her. Honestly I've written her off as a friend but I just feel obligated when we have get togethers to invite her.

A few months ago I found out she got pregnant, while on bc. Her husband told my husband to tell me. We went to a get together and she was there a couple days after I found out. I realized half way through everyone knew but everyone was being hush hush when I walked up, it was so obvious. We left early and I cried the whole way home, I was so hurt.

Now yesterday we had a crawfish boil and I felt obligated to invite her. If I don't now I'm the bitch that doesn't like her because she's pregnant, but I don't like her because she's an self absorbed bitch. Yesterday morning I had my ugly cry because I just know I'm out this cycle and it's now onto IVF. I was really hoping she wouldn't show up but she did.

Then when she gets here she tells me she bought a new bathing suit that will hold her boobs now. I told her yeah I bought me 2 last year at the same place when I was pregnant. Then she said well I only got 1 because I imagine with work I won't be able to come here swimming but a few days a week. WTF??? I didn't invite her to come swim. She is also now 4 months pregnant and she spent the entire time rubbing her belly, you would have thought she was 9 months by the way she was acting. She also yelled at my dog most of the day about everything and just down right bitchy to me, even rolled her eyes once when I said something. My husband made a comment after she left about how she was acting and didn't care if she ever came over again.

I really don't want to be around her at all anymore and I feel like I'm being such a bitch about it. I've always been way to nice but with all this other IF crap I'm really having a hard time.
Fucking bump!!!!

Re: I just need to vent (pregnancy and losses mentioned)

  • I think you've gone out of your way here. Her not acknowledging your pregnancy/miscarriage would have been the last straw for me. Hugs to you for having to be around her. So sorry she's such a bitch. I think this process is so draining that we should try and only be around the good, caring people who give us positive energy. Big hugs and hope today is much better for you!
    Me:34 H:33 
    Temping since Nov 2012, off BC since July 2011
    SA: Beyond Awesome
    CD3 BW (AMH:2.7, estrogen high:106) , low progesterone 7DPO
    OB diagnosed "weak ovulation"
    IUI #1 Jan 2014- 5mg letrozole, m/c 6w3d, betas slow to decrease
    IUI #2 Mar 2014- 5mg letrozole BFN
    IVF#1 Apr/May 2014 16R/12M/8F.  Transferred 2 blasts, 3 on ice

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  • Wow you've really put up with a lot. Stop inviting her to things because she doesn't deserve your friendship. Her most recent behavior is atrocious. I'm floored. Have you tried to ask her about it? If you are done with the friendship anyway, might as well ask her. But the answer might be really hurtful so maybe just let bygones be bygones and just get rid of her. Ugh. I'm so sorry you had such a rough time. It's like she's trying to rub it in your face. I just don't get people like that. I'm sorry :( (((hugs)))
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • I agree with a previous poster that you should surround yourself with positivity. This process is stressful enough. I wouldn't invite her to anything else.

    Me-36
    DH -35
    Married in 2008
    Started TTC in 2011
    Began testing May 2014
    Test Results
    HSG- clear
    Hysteroscopy- clear
    SA- 11 mil count
    45% motility
    Diagnosis: MFI
    July 2014: Femera 5mg CD 4-8, Trigger, IUI = BFN
    August 2015: Femera 5mg CD 4-8, Trigger, IUI = BFN
    September 2015: Femera 5mg CD 4-8, Trigger, IUI = BFN
    May 2018 after long period of not trying, starting adoption process with family friend's newborn
    November 2018 Adoption complete!


  • I agree with pp, and mostly just wanted to say ((hugs))
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    TTC since 12/2012 Me: hypothyroid & egg issues
    DH: MFI
    IUI #1 BFN
    2nd treatment cycle: Clomid & TI BFN
    IUI #2 (injects) IUI BFN
    2/14 through 3/14 benched with a cyst
    IVF#1 CD1 came before beta. BFN. No frosties.
    Benched with cysts...
    IVF#2 beta moved up due to heavy bleeding 6dp5dt...beta was 11. beta#2 20.4! Beta#3 28 Chemical pregnancy :(
    Currently on BCPs with cysts, planning IVF#3 Everyone welcome!
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  • She absolutely does not deserve you as a friend!! I'm sorry you had to deal with that. :(

    Me: 32  DH: 33  Married: March 2004

    July 2006: started TTC
    2008: HSG (normal), couple rounds of clomid through gyno
    2008 - 2010: dragging my feet out of fear and procrastination
    October 2010: first consultation with RE, dx PCOS and fibroids (DH slightly low count/motility)
    Oct. 2010 - Dec. 2012:  In DENIAL! avoided the issue because I was scared of surgery
    January 2013: returned to RE, fibroids grew significantly
    February 2013: second HSG, fibroids pushed on tubes which blocked them somewhat
    March 2013: MRI to determine what type of surgery may be necessary

    July 29, 2013: fibroids (5) removed via robotic laparascopy
    August 2013 - Nov 2013 : benched due to recent surgery

    IUI #1, Dec. 24, 2013, BFN 
    IUI #2, Jan. 25, 2014, BFN
    IUI #3, Feb. 25, 2014  BFN
    IUI #4 canceled due to lack of response to letrozole
    IUI #4.1 April 28, 2014, BFN

    May 16, 2014: wtf consult, start prepping for IVF in June and add injects for one last IUI in the meantime
    IUI #5 started letrozole and bravelle but canceled after HSG led to new diagnosis

    May 21, 2014: third HSG, tubes blocked, one at the beginning, one hydrosalpinx??
    June 11, 2014: consult, approved to move on to IVF because the hydro is not completely blocked therefore allowing fluid to move through slowly rather than backwards
    IVF #1 August 8, 2014 - 3dt of 2 embryos, BFN
    September 17, 2014 - 4th HSG, the right tube is very patent (open!!) dye went straight through this time. Weird!
    October 2, 2014 - started metformin treatment
    November 14, 2014 - blood work, brought A1C down from 5.8 to 5.5

    November 26, 2014 - RE finally back from vaca and reviewed my chart, no more IVFs for rest of calendar year
    December 1, 2014 - Right after Thanksgiving, I called a new clinic and got in right away! Plan for IVF
    December 17, 2014 - ER! 29 retrieved (!!), 16 mature, all 16 fertilized (ICSI)

    IVF #2 December 20, 2014 - 3dt of 3 embryos, BFN

    We are done with treatment unsuccessfully. :(


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  • Pintobean39Pintobean39 member
    edited April 2014
    I feel so guilty not inviting her because she's in our little group of friends. I understand that unless you have gone through all this it's really hard to know what to say so I've tried to just suck it up but it's really getting harder to do. I just feel so selfish by saying I don't want to be around her. I'm so glad I came here to vent because I was feeling so horrible for feeling the way I was feeling and y'all made me feel better about it. Like I'm not being irrational about the whole situation. I think it's time that I cut her out of my friendship because I just can't anymore.
    Fucking bump!!!!
  • I agree with others, I'd stop inviting her to things. Ultimately she is not a positive person in your life right now, and if your other friends think that you stopped just because she's pregnant then they aren't able to understand your situation either unfortunately. Maybe a conversation with the others about how you don't want it to be uncomfortable for them (if the 'bitch' isn't invited) but that you are just really not feeling supported by her right now. I'm sorry your dealing with this :(

    Me: 37 | DH: 41
    TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
    IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
    IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
     08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
    So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
     
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  • I'm sorry. :-( I can imagine that not saying anything to you about your miscarriage or her pregnancy could have been because she was not sure what to say. However, I can't think of any explanation of why she would rub her pregnancy in your face this weekend. She sounds really self-centered, and I don't think it would be out of line at all to stop inviting her to things.
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    DSS- 6.26.04
    Married- 6.29.13
    TTC Again- Sept. 2013
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    Test Results/Diagnosis- HSG & SA totally normal
    DX: 3/2014 Prolactinoma/Hyperprolactinemia- Started cabergoline 2/2014
    5/2014 Possible mild PCOS in addition to hyperprolactinemia??
    7/2014 Adding probable tubal factor to the diagnosis list
    9/2014 And now adding hypothyroid to the list- Started synthroid 9/2014
    Cycles 1-4 - Sept.-March- All Anovulatory 
    IUI #1 March/April-  Clomid 50mg + Clomid 100mg +Trigger + IUI #1 = BFN
     IUI #2 April/May-Clomid 100mg + Clomid 150mg + Trigger + IUI #2 + Endometrin=BFN
    IUI #3- June- Follistim 75iu + Trigger + IUI #3  Benched due to a 40 mm cyst. :-(
    IUI #3- July- Follistim 75iu + Trigger + IUI #3 + Endometrin = BFP! on 7/25/14
    Slowly rising betas - Ectopic suspected on 8/8/14 & confirmed on 8/11/14
    Methotrexate on 8/12/14 -HCG negative on 9/2/14
    IVF #1- November- Antagonist protocol: 11/1: start stims, 200iu of Follistim; 11/12 ER 17R/14M/14F; 11/17 5 day transfer of two blasts, 2 blasts and 2 expanding morulas frozen; 11/22 BFP!! (On FRER at 5dp5dt)
    Betas: 9dp5dt 205, 11dp5dt 497, 14dp5dt 1,709
    u/s at 5w0d- 1 sac; u/s at 6w0d 1 baby with heartbeat, another sac without a heartbeat
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  • It doesn't really matter why she is treating you poorly.  The fact that she IS treating you poorly means that she should not be part of your life.  I vote to eliminate all negativity from your life, and to fill it with only friends who make you feel happy and loved.  That woman sounds like a horrible person who does not deserve your friendship.  (((hugs)))
  • DharmaChickDharmaChick member
    edited April 2014
    At the best, giving her the most benefit of the doubt, this person sounds incredibly clueless and self-centered.  However, even if she's just an idiot (and not just being a bitch), I agree that she is not what you need in your life right now.

    If you really feel obligated to keep inviting her, I would recommend at least having a conversation with her about how her words/actions are making you feel.  If you're not comfortable with that, maybe you have a good friend who could speak to her for you?  If she doesn't apologize and (hopefully) adjust her behavior, I don't think that anyone could question a decision to avoid her.

    I'm really sorry that you are dealing with this, especially at your own home. *Hugs*
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    ME: 34, Atypical PCOS (lean, no O without meds) + unexplained; DH: 33, mildly low motility
    09/2012: Start TTC after stopping NuvaRing.  No cycles seemed to occur.
    01/2013 - 05/2013: Tried Provera to "jumpstart" cycles. No luck.
    12/2013-
    01/2014: Clomid 50mg - no big follies, stepped to 100mg; One mature follie, Ovidrel (HCG trigger), IUI #1 completed - BFN
    02/2014: Clomid 100mg;
    One mature follie, Ovidrel trigger, IUI #2 completed, Crinone - BFN
    03/2014: Clomid 100mg -
    no big follies on 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; One mature follie, Ovidrel, IUI #3 completed, Crinone - BFN
    04/2014-05/2014: Letrozole 5mg + Ovidrel HG to prep for IUI #4 switched to TI, Crinone - BFN
    05/2014-06/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #4.1 completed, Crinone - BFN
    07/2014-08/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #5 completed, Crinone - BFN
    09/2014-10/2014: IVF Prep - Insurance requires IUI #6;
    Letrozole 5mg - no big follies 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; IUI #6, Crinone - BFN
    11/2014: "Break" - Letrozole 5mg to cycle before prepping for IVF - successfully O'ed, but BFN
    12/2014: Extending 'break' one more Letrozole-only TI cycle for mental health break - BFN
    01/2015-
    02/2015: Prep for IVF - BCP then Gonal-F, Ganirelex, Novarel trigger;  ER scheduled 2/11!
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  • What got me is that your husband even noticed.. dudes never notice the sneaky crap girls do to other girls.. so if he noticed it must have been bad! And she was yelling at your dog?! Nobody yells at my dog and gets away with it. Cut this girl out!! Its going gonna get worse!!! I agree with cutting negativity out of your life and surrounding yourself with positives
    Husband: MFI Counts 1-11mil, Mot 32%-50% Morph 2-4%
    Me: slightly underactive thyroid
    Married March 2013 TTC since wedding.. 
    Jan 2014 Non medicated IUI-failed 
    April 2014 Started Clomid cancelled IUI due to a low sample
    May 2014 Variococele repair surgery
    (PM me any surgery success stories!)
  • She sounds like a bully, and like it makes her feel good to make you feel bad. Now that your DH has noticed, it sounds like a great excuse if needed, if he's willing to take the fall for you..."oh last time she was here, DH couldn't believe how rude she was to me and our dog." Probably others know what she is really like (people like that can't hide it from everyone), even if they are careful not to offend her!!
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
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  • She honestly sounds like such a bitch. You have done everything you possibly could to include her and give her a chance to treat you better. She doesn't deserve your friendship and she sure as hell doesn't deserve to be at your house or use your pool. It's time to kick her butt to the curb!



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    Me (35) no known issues DH (37) MFI. TTC 21 months (24 cycles)
    Dx MFI with low to normal count, low motility, morphology 3%
    HSG normal, ultrasound and labs on me all normal. 

    1 cycle of Clomid 50mg and TI, unmonitored by OBGYN= BFN
    1 cycle of Clomid 50mg and IUI, unmonitored by OBGYN= BFN
    Started seeing an RE!!
    2 more cycles of clomid 50mg (great response), with IUI and Pregnyl trigger (4.8-8 mil good ones after wash) = all BFN
    1 cycle of clomid 50mg (3-7) followed by Follistim 75iu (7-11) + IUI = BFN
    December 2013 DH saw urologist and is taking Anastrozole, CoQ10, and L-Carnitine
    IUI #5 natural cycle (needed a med break) = BFN
    IUI #6 Follistim 75iu (CD3-10) + Pregnyl (CD11) + IUI (final count after wash 300K) = BFN
    IUI #7 Follistim 75iu (CD3-9) + Pregnyl (CD11) + IUI on 2/20 (post wash count 12.5 million)= BFN
    IUI cancelled (DH OOT) Clomid 50mg (CD3-7) 1 follicle +(not well timed) TI = BFN
    IUI #8 and last one!! Clomid 100mg (CD3-7) +OPK before US + IUI 4/17 (post wash 8.5 mil)= BFN

    Pre-IVF testing complete! SHG great and measurements taken! Labs for infectious diseases completed, FSH (5.4), TSH (1.6), Prolactin (11), AMH (2.6), Estradiol (40).

    Started BCP 5/29 and Lupron 6/11 prep for IVF #1! Started follistim 225u/day on 6/28. Monitoring on 7/2 >15 follicles measuring 11-14, E2 758. Monitoring on 7/5 all ready to go!! Great follicle sizes and lining is at 9. Tigger 7/5, ER 7/7 16R 9M 3F. Stimmed too fast in just 7 days. 7/10 3dt of 2 8-cell grade 2 & 4. 7/14 P4 >60.
    Holy crap BFP!!!
    Beta #1 (14dpo) 7/21 112 Beta #2 (16dpo) 7/23 286 a Beta #3 (18dpo) 7/25 761 Beta #4 (21dpo) 2631!!! Hold on tight little embies!!
      First Ultrasound 8/7- 1 perfect little bean with a beating heart 117bpm!! EDD 3/30.
    Second ultrasound 9/2 Little bean measuring a few days ahead with a heart rate of 161!



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  • She yelled at your DOG? What is wrong with her. I am sorry, but NO ONE yells at my dog or corrects them but me. 

    The fact that she treated you like crap through your losses, did not talk to you personally about her pregnancy, and was such a bitch that even DH noticed I would drop her from your life. 

    I would also address the issues with her incase you run into her elsewhere since she is in your friend group. Maybe it can be explained, but more than likely shes just a self absorbed bitch who has to even take her bitchiness out on helpless dogs. 
    Me: 28 Hubs:29Married Since 5.18.2013TTC since 9.2011 w/ a short break DX: Severe Hypothyroidsim-Still Testing Hubs: All Good Thus FarCurrently Benched until Thyroid is ControlledWorking on Weight Management While Benched~All Welcome~
  • I'm sorry you're having to deal with her.  I don't have anything else more to add, but I agree with PP.  Cut her out, or at least, talk to her.  Sorry! :(

    DH: 34  
    Aug 2013 - SA: Counts & Motility = great, Morph = 1%; RE didn't seem too concerned

    Me: 26
    Jan. 2014 - Blood work ordered by obgyn:  Prolactin = high & AMH = low (0.73)
    Feb. 6, 2014 - Repeat blood work ordered by obgyn:  Prolactin = normal & AMH = low (0.9)
    Feb.  20, 2014 - First appointment with RE
    Feb. 24, 2014 - HSG scheduled;  DX:  one tube definitely open & one tube could be blocked
    Mar. 7, 2014 - CD 21 Blood work for Progesterone; DX:  Progesterone level at 5.2; shows I ovulated but was low
    Mar. 28, 2014 - Laparoscopy; DX:  Tubes open.  Found some endometriosis and had that removed.
     
    History:
    Started TTC:  June 2012
    June 2012 - March 2013:  When it Happens/it happens method = BFN
    March 2013:  Started using Fertility Friend
    Cycles 1 - 15 with Fertility Friend = BFN
    Cycle 16 - Benched due to Laparoscopy
    Cycle 17 - Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 18 - Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 19 - Natural Cycle = BFN
     

    Current Cycle:
    Cycle 20 = Natural Cycle


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  • I am so so sorry that you had to deal with that girl and that she is even around in your circle at all frankly. I agree with your DH, probably best she doesn't come around. It sounds like she is in her "all about me" reality show and it has no cancellation. :(

    Trying to have baby #1 since April 2013

    DH SA March,May 2014 - Low motility and shape issues. On vitamins per RE to help

    Me testing April 3, 2014 - FSH and LH good, HSG showed blocked right tube

    April 29, 2014 - First RE appt., right tube needs to be removed and possibly left also if

    it's bad too. RE suggests going straight to IVF

    June 4, 2014 - LAP/HSC and unexpected endo. removed but tubes got to stay!

    June 13, 2014 - Post-Op appointment. We decide where to go next since main issue

    is MFI influenced. Trying naturally until decision... Repeat SA  in September. Aiming for IUI #1 November 2014.

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