Trouble TTC

People Can Be So Stupid... (Pregnancy/Kids Mentioned, not mine)

Hi everyone, just first wanted to say I am still around lurking just been busy with testing and treatment from my tumor and still benched until further notice. :( My father in law is still an idiot but I have moved into our new house on our farm and life is slowly getting better outside of IF. 

Last week, I had 3 transvaginal ultrasounds to look at my tumor some more and figure out what was going on. They are finding it is growing with my hormone levels and this was a follow up from some "hormone therapy" (BCP pills more or less) before they zap me with a laser. They claim it will only take an afternoon with a long weekend off work and I should be good as new. I am a skeptic. 

So after getting all of this news on Saturday, I go to family dinner for Easter. The kids hunt eggs in shifts and the adults eat and socialize inside. The kids are older so I am ok dealing with them and have been getting better with being around younger kids. Well, my cousin shows up with her daughter that is 5. I am already a little awkward around her daughter because she was pregnant with her when I was pregnant with my last loss but my cousin yells "look at her shirt" I look and it says "I am going to be a big sister in October 2014." This sweet little girl proceeds to show me the pumpkins on her shirt that represent her and the new baby. I almost died. No warning, no buffer, nothing.

I am fighting hard against my tears and I tell DH its time to go and make up an excuse. Of course he decides now is a great time to start talking to everyone and is screwing around. I almost had to literally drag him to the car because I was about to have a complete nervous breakdown while he is trying to talk about everything and anything with my uncles and I did not want to do it in front of anyone else and he just completely missed what was going on because I have not had an "episode" lately. 

So I get in the car and I am crying and he has no idea why I am so heart broken since we are "trying" and that we will be Okay if we dont have our own kids and starts talking about cars. I just ignore him and havent talked to much of anyone all week.

I was so, so angry. My Aunt who was there knew about my IF problems because she has been there for a lot of my appointments and such and my cousin went through a ton of issues with her first baby and now this one. They both knew I would be blind sided about it and not a single bit of warning. And not only that, they put a child up to tell me and couldnt do it themselves. She even told my bio dad that at least she could give him grandbabies because they are closer than my dad and I am. I wanted to choke DH out for screwing around, my cousin for blindsiding me and putting her daughter up for telling me, and my aunt for being the first to start talking about my cousins baby bump that led into all the other baby talk I just was not mentally ready to deal with. 
Me: 28 Hubs:29Married Since 5.18.2013TTC since 9.2011 w/ a short break DX: Severe Hypothyroidsim-Still Testing Hubs: All Good Thus FarCurrently Benched until Thyroid is ControlledWorking on Weight Management While Benched~All Welcome~

Re: People Can Be So Stupid... (Pregnancy/Kids Mentioned, not mine)

  • So sorry about your unwelcome Easter "surprise". It sucks enough when people who don't know what's going on say insensitive things, but when people who should know better do it......it feels almost cruel. Perhaps she thought sending her daughter was the nicer approach, but I'm sure it felt like taking a bullet.

    Perhaps consider a signal for you and DH for these occasions? Something to let him know that you need to leave NOW, no excuses? It helps my DH and I, even for occasions that don't have anything to do with IF. 

    Good luck on your surgery!
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    Me & DH: 24 Married: 5/11
    Started TTC: 12/12 Testing Started: 5/14
    Dx: Irregular Ovulation, possible PCOS
    Treatment starting July '14: Letrozole + Trigger + TI
    Surprise natural BFP right before starting meds!!!!!- EDD 3/7/15

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  • I second having a signal with DH. I am so so sorry for your loss and for all the horrible things that happened on Easter. My heart absolutely breaks for you. I've been there for sure. This same scenario happened to me during Thanksgiving last year. No warning that time either. It was awful. I am so sorry you're feeling so down :(
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • We did have a signal. He just forgot about it and thought I would be fine. He isn't the most considerate of people these days. He said we are "trying" and I need to chill out. My Aunt told me she "forgot" and didn't realize I was going to be there. My cousin hasn't talked to me since I referred her to my RE and obviously it was successful. So it was just all around crappy day. I'm so over people and being "forgetful."
    Me: 28 Hubs:29Married Since 5.18.2013TTC since 9.2011 w/ a short break DX: Severe Hypothyroidsim-Still Testing Hubs: All Good Thus FarCurrently Benched until Thyroid is ControlledWorking on Weight Management While Benched~All Welcome~
  • It makes it so much harder when nobody around seems understand what you are going through.

    It can be difficult for guys to understand.  My DH knows that news like this hurts, but it leaves him speechless.  I can tell that he feels badly that he doesn't know what to say.

    In any case, I hope that venting here has helped a bit.  Know that we are sending plenty of virtual hugs.
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    ME: 34, Atypical PCOS (lean, no O without meds) + unexplained; DH: 33, mildly low motility
    09/2012: Start TTC after stopping NuvaRing.  No cycles seemed to occur.
    01/2013 - 05/2013: Tried Provera to "jumpstart" cycles. No luck.
    12/2013-
    01/2014: Clomid 50mg - no big follies, stepped to 100mg; One mature follie, Ovidrel (HCG trigger), IUI #1 completed - BFN
    02/2014: Clomid 100mg;
    One mature follie, Ovidrel trigger, IUI #2 completed, Crinone - BFN
    03/2014: Clomid 100mg -
    no big follies on 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; One mature follie, Ovidrel, IUI #3 completed, Crinone - BFN
    04/2014-05/2014: Letrozole 5mg + Ovidrel HG to prep for IUI #4 switched to TI, Crinone - BFN
    05/2014-06/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #4.1 completed, Crinone - BFN
    07/2014-08/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #5 completed, Crinone - BFN
    09/2014-10/2014: IVF Prep - Insurance requires IUI #6;
    Letrozole 5mg - no big follies 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; IUI #6, Crinone - BFN
    11/2014: "Break" - Letrozole 5mg to cycle before prepping for IVF - successfully O'ed, but BFN
    12/2014: Extending 'break' one more Letrozole-only TI cycle for mental health break - BFN
    01/2015-
    02/2015: Prep for IVF - BCP then Gonal-F, Ganirelex, Novarel trigger;  ER scheduled 2/11!
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  • I'm sorry, that is so hard and being blindsided is the worst!!!



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    Me (35) no known issues DH (37) MFI. TTC 21 months (24 cycles)
    Dx MFI with low to normal count, low motility, morphology 3%
    HSG normal, ultrasound and labs on me all normal. 

    1 cycle of Clomid 50mg and TI, unmonitored by OBGYN= BFN
    1 cycle of Clomid 50mg and IUI, unmonitored by OBGYN= BFN
    Started seeing an RE!!
    2 more cycles of clomid 50mg (great response), with IUI and Pregnyl trigger (4.8-8 mil good ones after wash) = all BFN
    1 cycle of clomid 50mg (3-7) followed by Follistim 75iu (7-11) + IUI = BFN
    December 2013 DH saw urologist and is taking Anastrozole, CoQ10, and L-Carnitine
    IUI #5 natural cycle (needed a med break) = BFN
    IUI #6 Follistim 75iu (CD3-10) + Pregnyl (CD11) + IUI (final count after wash 300K) = BFN
    IUI #7 Follistim 75iu (CD3-9) + Pregnyl (CD11) + IUI on 2/20 (post wash count 12.5 million)= BFN
    IUI cancelled (DH OOT) Clomid 50mg (CD3-7) 1 follicle +(not well timed) TI = BFN
    IUI #8 and last one!! Clomid 100mg (CD3-7) +OPK before US + IUI 4/17 (post wash 8.5 mil)= BFN

    Pre-IVF testing complete! SHG great and measurements taken! Labs for infectious diseases completed, FSH (5.4), TSH (1.6), Prolactin (11), AMH (2.6), Estradiol (40).

    Started BCP 5/29 and Lupron 6/11 prep for IVF #1! Started follistim 225u/day on 6/28. Monitoring on 7/2 >15 follicles measuring 11-14, E2 758. Monitoring on 7/5 all ready to go!! Great follicle sizes and lining is at 9. Tigger 7/5, ER 7/7 16R 9M 3F. Stimmed too fast in just 7 days. 7/10 3dt of 2 8-cell grade 2 & 4. 7/14 P4 >60.
    Holy crap BFP!!!
    Beta #1 (14dpo) 7/21 112 Beta #2 (16dpo) 7/23 286 a Beta #3 (18dpo) 7/25 761 Beta #4 (21dpo) 2631!!! Hold on tight little embies!!
      First Ultrasound 8/7- 1 perfect little bean with a beating heart 117bpm!! EDD 3/30.
    Second ultrasound 9/2 Little bean measuring a few days ahead with a heart rate of 161!



    PAIF/SAIF/All Welcome!

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  • OMG im so sorry you had to go through that. On easter I had to see my sister who is preg with her 3rd and show off her "baby bump" which isnt actually yet and I made her mad when I said well last time I checked baby bumps dont jiggle. ..made me feel better. But this was the first time I was going to have to see her and deal with the issue face to face and DH decided last minute he didnt want to go and I really needed him there because I didnt know how I was going to react. And we had a huge fight before I left the house, luckily I had an hr drive but my mom calls me and I start bawling to her and she just tells me maybe I just shouldn't come if I cane be happy for her...ugh...I totally understand your issues and if DH tells me again that I need to "CHILL" hes gonna need a chilly ice pack for his face...just sayin lol
  • I'm so sorry. I know unless you have been going through all this it's really had to understand but it amazes me how some people really can be so insensitive.

    Good luck with the surgery.
    Fucking bump!!!!
  • It's amazing how stupid and insensitive people are. I totally understand what you are going through. People who have never dealt with IF will NEVER understand what we go through, no matter how informed they are. And that makes me angry everyday.
    Me:30 DH:30 
    TTC since January 2013 
    Him: Excellent SA
    Me: 2 clear HSG's, perfect 28 day cycle with ovulation, all testing/blood work good
    1/23/14- **Surgery**
    Diagnosis: severe pelvic adhesions from stage 3/4 endo and old ruptured appendix
    RE Recommends IVF due to likely tubal damage
    IVF #1- November 2014 
                     Started stims 11/7. Antagonist Protocol
                     Trigger 11/17, HCG/Lupron
                     ER 11/19   27R/24m/14F
                     ET 11/24   1 little embie 
                     5 frosties!!! 
                     First ever BFP-  12/4 Beta #1: 35  12/8 Beta #2: 9  CP 

    FET #1- February 2015 



     

  • ((Hugs)) it amazes me how so many people lack manners and decency, especially since they know your struggles!
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    TTC since 12/2012 Me: hypothyroid & egg issues
    DH: MFI
    IUI #1 BFN
    2nd treatment cycle: Clomid & TI BFN
    IUI #2 (injects) IUI BFN
    2/14 through 3/14 benched with a cyst
    IVF#1 CD1 came before beta. BFN. No frosties.
    Benched with cysts...
    IVF#2 beta moved up due to heavy bleeding 6dp5dt...beta was 11. beta#2 20.4! Beta#3 28 Chemical pregnancy :(
    Currently on BCPs with cysts, planning IVF#3 Everyone welcome!
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  • I think what blindsided me and hurt the most is these people know better. My cousin especially. She would call me crying when she was in the same situations she put me in. Granted, I have a "tough" exterior and all but I am human too. DH gets it, he realized this afternoon how much of a jerk he was being after his friend was out playing baseball with his kids and he realized there was a real possibility that that may never be him. Then he remembered the struggles we were going through. 

    I just do not understand people who have been here and cried with you turning around and not getting it. I just ask that people be a little sensitive and dont blind side me with things like that. I get she wanted a big announcement but seriously, some understanding would be nice. 

    Of course this was all followed up with a conversation how I dont have kids so I dont understand... so I just decided I wont be visiting my dads family for awhile after that incident. 
    Me: 28 Hubs:29Married Since 5.18.2013TTC since 9.2011 w/ a short break DX: Severe Hypothyroidsim-Still Testing Hubs: All Good Thus FarCurrently Benched until Thyroid is ControlledWorking on Weight Management While Benched~All Welcome~
  • I'm sorry you were blindsided by the news :(  My DH doesn't get it that much either.  

    DH: 34  
    Aug 2013 - SA: Counts & Motility = great, Morph = 1%; RE didn't seem too concerned

    Me: 26
    Jan. 2014 - Blood work ordered by obgyn:  Prolactin = high & AMH = low (0.73)
    Feb. 6, 2014 - Repeat blood work ordered by obgyn:  Prolactin = normal & AMH = low (0.9)
    Feb.  20, 2014 - First appointment with RE
    Feb. 24, 2014 - HSG scheduled;  DX:  one tube definitely open & one tube could be blocked
    Mar. 7, 2014 - CD 21 Blood work for Progesterone; DX:  Progesterone level at 5.2; shows I ovulated but was low
    Mar. 28, 2014 - Laparoscopy; DX:  Tubes open.  Found some endometriosis and had that removed.
     
    History:
    Started TTC:  June 2012
    June 2012 - March 2013:  When it Happens/it happens method = BFN
    March 2013:  Started using Fertility Friend
    Cycles 1 - 15 with Fertility Friend = BFN
    Cycle 16 - Benched due to Laparoscopy
    Cycle 17 - Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 18 - Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 19 - Natural Cycle = BFN
     

    Current Cycle:
    Cycle 20 = Natural Cycle


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  • I am so so sorry that you had to go through that... I wish that the sdults had handled the situation differently knowing how you feel and that it would upset you. I agree, maybe give that side of the family a break for a while...

    Trying to have baby #1 since April 2013

    DH SA March,May 2014 - Low motility and shape issues. On vitamins per RE to help

    Me testing April 3, 2014 - FSH and LH good, HSG showed blocked right tube

    April 29, 2014 - First RE appt., right tube needs to be removed and possibly left also if

    it's bad too. RE suggests going straight to IVF

    June 4, 2014 - LAP/HSC and unexpected endo. removed but tubes got to stay!

    June 13, 2014 - Post-Op appointment. We decide where to go next since main issue

    is MFI influenced. Trying naturally until decision... Repeat SA  in September. Aiming for IUI #1 November 2014.

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