July 2014 Moms

Family plan??

jojos1982jojos1982 member
edited April 2014 in July 2014 Moms

Hi All,

My hubby and I recently sat down to write out a basic birth plan. We have had some issues during the pregnancy with pushy family members and oversharing on social media without discussing it with us first. I saw somewhere the idea of having a 'family plan' to give/send to family members to make it clear what we want/don't want from them during the labor, immediately after the birth.

For example, I don't want anyone announcing the arrival on social media until we are ready or have done so ourselves, we also want it to be clear who will be at the hospital and when we will give them updates etc. I also want them to be aware that my hubby will not be able to give them constant updates, his cell phone will most likely be off for a time so that he can focus on sharing this moment with me and us having the best possible experience, without him being bombarded with texts and calls.

Certain family members are expecting to be waiting right outside the delivery room to be allowed in immediately after our daughter arrives but we'd really like to have just ourselves at the hospital for at least an hour after she arrives, to enjoy a special moment together before we invite others to come and meet her. I don't think that's unreasonable but I don't know how to approach this without sounding confrontational or making them feel unwelcome.

I like the idea of having something similar to a birth plan, for family members with all of these things laid out, so that it's not personal to any one person, we are just making our wishes clear. That said, it also seems a little too far the opposite way, too impersonal!

Any thoughts? Has anyone done this or had a similar problem?

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  • How would you disperse these? I feel like people would be offended.

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  • I was in labor over 24 hours with my DD. thankfully no one was at the hospital. I would just be truthful. It's your labor not anyone else's.
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  • I can't even imagine feeling like I have to do this - our families didn't make a move without us initiating when DS was born, and they're not likely to be any different this time around.

    OP - i would write it out just to make sure you don't miss anything you want to say, but i would first try to give them the courtesy of talking to them either face to face or over the phone. If you feel like they are resistant, then follow up with the written version...

     

     

  • jojos1982jojos1982 member
    edited April 2014

    Thanks for the feedback.

    I agree that a list of rules would appear impersonal or harsh. I was thinking more of something that just lets them know what to expect.

    The issue I have is that I've tried communicating it verbally but it's not just one person and it always ends up in a confrontation, them telling me I'm being selfish and they have rights as grandparents, siblings etc. I feel like they are only thinking about what THEY want, not what I want and not listening when I try to tell them calmly what our wishes are.

    Every time we discuss it I get upset because they don't listen and I am worried that if I don't address it in some other way, a less emotional way, then on the day we will have people posting about our daughter's arrival on Facebook because they feel like it's their right to make the announcement, or being offended when we say that we don't want visitors yet. So, perhaps they are going to be offended either way if their experience doesn't match up to what they believe they are entitled to!

    It's true that they can't know anything we don't tell them but I think they'll be really mad if we just don't call them until after she is here, not telling them we are at the hospital is something I KNOW we will hear about. 'How could you not tell us?',' we have a right to know what's going on' and such like. Do I really want to be having that confrontation with them when I'm trying to enjoy the new baby in my arms?

    AAAAHHH this is so confusing! LOL

  • I agree that mailing a list could be hurtful. I would verbally discuss it. IF they resist, maybe email it, as a PP said. That way it's in black and white. Also, make those points such as "no visitors until I say" part of your hospital birth plan. If you tell your nurses, they will back you up. They don't just let anyone in. They have to announce at the door who they're there for. The nurses can apologize and turn them away if needed.

    I had a major issue with social media last time, because a former coworker of mine showed up and took pics of my DD and put them on FB before I even had a chance to really hold her or look at her.

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  • Thank you all so much for the advice. Maybe I'm overthinking it. I read the idea somewhere and maybe because things have been so emotional, it seemed like a black and white, non-emotional way to say it without it being aimed at any one person.

    I think we will take the advice of building it to our hospital plan, just call people when we are ready and if they have issues with us not telling them til after, hopefully they will be too consumed with the new arrival to be worrying about or expressing that. :)



  • I haven't read all the PP, but the easiest solution is to just not tell people you're headed to the hospital. Only call them after baby has arrived and after you're ready for visitors. That's what we did with our son and it worked great. By the time baby arrives, everyone is so excited to meet him/her that they forget about being offended they weren't called.

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  • After our experience with DS's birth, we have decided not to tell anybody that DD has arrived until we are settled in our room with DD. DS will be staying with my grandparents who are amazing at keeping things between just us. I have explained why we are doing this and they are more than happy to honor our wishes of not spreading the word that DD is on her way. We have told my mom and my FIL our plans and they both kimd of gave an eye roll and went about their business. Nobody was in the room or asking for updates with DS, but everybody was waiting after I had my unexpected c-section to meet and hold him, and ended up overwhelming us. I don't want that this time around and neither does DH.
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  • OP i understand completely how you feel i have my mom my god sister and other family members who want to be in the room with me and dh and i put our foot down and discussed it will only be me him the nurses and doctors in the room until we decided its time for visitors. Our original plan was to not tell anyone we are even at the hospital. we may once it got closer let people know that we are i active labour but we would let them know when it will be ok for people to visit and if anyone came before hand they will not be aloud in. As FTP's we want that special time with the baby to bond and enjoy everything that is going on plus you still have to have a shower/ clean up and who knows could still be having lots of bleeding that you can't even wear pants i don't really want visitors when i'm feeling like that.< My godsister had blood clots and was bleeding heavily for a bit afterwards because they thought she may have torn inside so she couldn't put her pants on until a few hours later> Plus your are more than likely going to be exhausted!. My doctor already knows that it is just DH in the room with me at my first OB appointment they asked me that. I don't really care if people post that we are in labour but i wont alow photos going onto facebook until we post as it's our child. 

    Since we are moving in with my FIL if we are still there when we go into labour we will just have rules that we will let him know whats going on and when it's ok to visit. Otherwise this is your child you say what happens.

    I feel for you with my mother as she is majorly pushy and thinks she's obliged to tell me what to do she has even yelled at me for looking into buying a bassinet before my babyshower as it's not till the beginning of july. she's yelling at me saying i'm buying everything and nothing for anyone else to buy... i have only purchased a couple 0-3 month outfits... i'm buying the carseat and the bassinet in case i go early before my babyshower but it's my choice on what i want to buy or not. 
     
    I hope your family will respect your wishes and don't feel bad for not telling them or waiting to tell the your in labour or that the bay has arrived it's your choice. they arn't obliged to anything and as pp have said the nurses/hospitals will listen to what you and DH request.
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  • I totally see your wishes and feel the same way about a lot of it. I dont' feel a written list of this though is the best way to tell. I just work it into conversations every time someone mentions baby, birth, etc. I even led in once like "I know this won't be popular so I'm just putting it out there early so you can accept it..." then I went to say how I want no one waiting (which they didn't plan to anyway) and when they get there I want to snag DD from them for some alone time with her and LO before them coming back. 
    Make your wishes clear, but I think verbally would be best than a written list.
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  • jojos1982 said:

    Thanks for the feedback.

    I agree that a list of rules would appear impersonal or harsh. I was thinking more of something that just lets them know what to expect.

    The issue I have is that I've tried communicating it verbally but it's not just one person and it always ends up in a confrontation, them telling me I'm being selfish and they have rights as grandparents, siblings etc. I feel like they are only thinking about what THEY want, not what I want and not listening when I try to tell them calmly what our wishes are.

    Every time we discuss it I get upset because they don't listen and I am worried that if I don't address it in some other way, a less emotional way, then on the day we will have people posting about our daughter's arrival on Facebook because they feel like it's their right to make the announcement, or being offended when we say that we don't want visitors yet. So, perhaps they are going to be offended either way if their experience doesn't match up to what they believe they are entitled to!

    It's true that they can't know anything we don't tell them but I think they'll be really mad if we just don't call them until after she is here, not telling them we are at the hospital is something I KNOW we will hear about. 'How could you not tell us?',' we have a right to know what's going on' and such like. Do I really want to be having that confrontation with them when I'm trying to enjoy the new baby in my arms?

    AAAAHHH this is so confusing! LOL

    I seriously felt like I could have written this. I am facing this issue with my IL's saying they have rights as grandparents. Um..and I don't have rights as the mother?!? 

    I can understand you wanting to write it out. Maybe a letter expressing your feelings and then your wishes. Start by explaining how you feel, the fact that you love them but this day is about you and your SO welcoming your new baby and you need that time together as a family. Then explain your wishes and your reasons so they understand why.

    I have told my IL's and they flat out tell me that they won't listen and it makes me so mad! I try not to show them though because I don't need the confrontation, it just isn't worth it to me because at the end of the day I don't have to let them in the room, I don't have to answer my phone, and I don't have to answer my front door either. Remember, this is YOUR baby so do what makes you and your SO comfortable. Don't stress about everyone else's expectations or desires.
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  • Boundaries are good and healthy. I see nothing wrong with "we will announce baby's safe arrival" after you're comfortably situated.

     

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  • What I'd do in your situation, is tell everyone, no visitors, no phone calls. Then I'd turn off my phone once in labor and not call anyone at all until you're 100% ready to see anyone after baby is out - as in have your time, then call, don't anticipate that they have an hour drive and plan ahead...the longer the better.  They don't need to know when you go to the hosp. you could get away with not telling them when you go into labor too. Then tell the hospital staff no one gets in without your approval- double safe- they'll back you up, plus our hosp flat out said we'd prefer ppl not hang in the waiting room and let them know how tiny and uncomfortable it is;). Don't post anything on social media you don't want the world to know. I told my mom I was in labor I think, and everyone left me alone  for those days, until we called to say the baby was out (and even that was too soon).

    i don't think ppl do well with reading through wishes and lots of rules- and likely they'll have some sort of opinion on it all that you'll hear about. Keep it simple. I'm not one to send out rules like that, so MAYBE I'd email something or fb it somehow. Snail mail if you're into mailing rules. However, turning off phones and not telling ppl where you are would fix that issue.

    I agree with this. If you're that concerned that people will overstep their boundaries, just don't call them to tell them you're in labor. There might be some hurt feelings because of it, but once the baby is here, I don't see anyone staying mad at you. I actually might do something similar. Except I'd designate one family member, like my sister, to be the go-to person. Just in case, I'd like to have that one person (outside my DH and I) to know we are at the hospital and still be aware of my plan.
    Like PP have said, there would be a lot of eye rolling if I handed out a hard copy of dos and don't s.

  • At the hospital I delivered my daughter at you had to have the door code to get back to where the patients are. The code changes everyday. So if we didn't want someone there we simply did not give them the code. See what precautions your hospital offers
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  • The social media bit is tough because really people will do whatever they want there. Set your privacy on Facebook so they can't tag you and let them know you'd prefer to be the one to make the announcement and leave it at that. As far as having time without visitors after or during the birth, blame it on the hospital. " hey everyone! Just wanted to reach out and let you know that our doc has informed us that only DH can be in the delivery room until an hour after the birth per hospital policy. We don't want anyone disappointed when the time comes so we are filling you in now :)"
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  • I didn't post this, but I really appreciate the advice you ladies have offered!  I'm in a very similar or maybe even the same position as OP.  I think my own parents will be alright, but I'm nervous about my MIL; she's super excited for her first grandbaby, so I'm worried about how involved she wants to be!  She is super nice, but we're not that close, so I don't want to hurt my mother-in-law's feelings. 

    You ladies ask great questions and offer wonderful advice! 
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  • I totally agree with @clgregson on this. I wasn't the OP but the advice is great. So far my MIL has been great and I was worried most that she wouldn't listen to our wishes, etc. It's my own mother who has become a monster about my pregnancy, giving birth, breast feeding plans, you name it. She's even considering relocating from WI to TX to be closer to "her" grand baby. It's been really hard communicating with her and we want it to be just DH and I in the room and for a little time afterwards but I'm afraid as soon as I tell her I'm in labor, she'll be on the next plane down. Sorry for the long rant!
  • chevronsevenchevronseven member
    edited April 2014
    I'm gonna be the black sheep here and say I don't see any problem at all with your idea. I'm not picturing it as a list of rules, but as a letter with positive undertones that says something like "We're so excited to share this special time with our family members! However, please respect that we would like privacy during the process and for a short time after the baby arrives. Dad will not be reachable during labor and delivery and we will not be receiving visitors until we have all had time to bond as a new family. But don't worry, everyone will get to meet our little bundle of joy when the time is right! We also request that no one share our news on social media until we have done so ourselves. We know we can count on our loved ones to respect our wishes, and can't wait to welcome our little one into the family!" You can format it in a cutesy letter so it feels even more cheerful and less confrontational.
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  • I am not the kind to worry a lot about stepping on toes, but that doesn't always make me the peach of the family. When we were expecting the first time, I tried to be a little bit better about this.

    Is there a "pack leader" in the family that you might be able to talk with one-on-one? With DH's family, it is his grandmother. I made a point to have a casual conversation with her on her own (made her feel special b/c I am a private person) to let her know I was uncomfortable with having people waiting at the hospital during my delivery with DS1. I didn't even have to tell anyone else; she is more efficient that local news media and made sure the family knew not to expect us to announce DS1's arrival until after the fact. Since I got her on my side, she spread the word in a nice way, and no one argues with Mamaw. A few people were a little put-off that we didn't allow visitors until the baby was a day old, but they got over it really quickly.
                 

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  • jojos1982jojos1982 member
    edited April 2014

  • I'm gonna be the black sheep here and say I don't see any problem at all with your idea. I'm not picturing it as a list of rules, but as a letter with positive undertones that says something like "We're so excited to share this special time with our family members! However, please respect that we would like privacy during the process and for a short time after the baby arrives. Dad will not be reachable during labor and delivery and we will not be receiving visitors until we have all had time to bond as a new family. But don't worry, everyone will get to meet our little bundle of joy when the time is right! We also request that no one share our news on social media until we have done so ourselves. We know we can count on our loved ones to respect our wishes, and can't wait to welcome our little one into the family!" You can format it in a cutesy letter so it feels even more cheerful and less confrontational.

    Thanks! This is definitely more the way I saw it. Something non-confrontational but gets the job done.

    I really appreciate the suggestions. If I do decide to go down that road (I am going to try one more time to talk to them about it) then I will definitely use some of what you said.

    :)

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