I'm a total pussy...lol.

Louie4real · April 2014

First: I am not trying to turn this into a vaccination debate. I don't have nearly enough wine for that.

I found out a co-worker of mine doesn't vaccinate her kids, not at all. I was shocked to discover that even though vaccination is kind of my hill to die on, I said nothing (I did smile and nod) to her, not even when she said that she got all her information on the dangers from Jenny McCarthy and the internet. I am ashamed!

Does this happen to anyone else? Have an issue that is really important to you, but say nothing about it IRL? I mean, it's not like she asked me for my opinion so maybe that's why I didn't say anything? ugh.

kcisthebombdotcom · April 2014

Unfortunately no. I actually just got blocked on Facebook for telling someone they obviously lacked any sort of common sense and critical thinking skills for spreading some anti vaccine bs. Lol. I can't with anti vaxxers. Any other things I believe in like not spanking/other hippie shit I'm not vocal about. Anti vaxxers are a public health risk and I don't think it's just a difference of opinions.

AimeeL85 · April 2014

I haven't been in that position yet where I've been face-to-face with someone I know doesn't vax, so I don't know if I'd be up for the debate with a friend or acquaintance or whatnot. It would depend on the situation. I do know, however, that it is not something I would get into a debate about with a coworker in the workplace, no matter how stupid I think they may be.

Louie4real · April 2014

See, KC, but even on Facebook I will tell you what's what. I'm talking a spontaneous face to face meeting with someone (not a friend or family member) that you will see again...over and over.

fancynewbeesly · April 2014

Right now, I would seriously say something.

But we also had a conversation with our oncologist today, and he said that even though Reese had her first round of vaccines, right now she CAN'T have any others due to the chemotherapy rendering them ineffective AND even though she did have the MMR vaccine, there is a slight chance (at least greater than those vaccinated) that she CAN get measles, mumps or anything else that she was previously vaccinated against.

I swear I want to put her in a bubble--I would be livid if I met an anti-vaxxer in real life. (Or at least an anti-vaxxer who CHOOSES not to vaccinate, not one like us that can't medically vaccinate)

LatteLady5 · April 2014

auroraloo said:

Starearedkid said:

Right now, I would seriously say something.

But we also had a conversation with our oncologist today, and he said that even though Reese had her first round of vaccines, right now she CAN'T have any others due to the chemotherapy rendering them ineffective AND even though she did have the MMR vaccine, there is a slight chance (at least greater than those vaccinated) that she CAN get measles, mumps or anything else that she was previously vaccinated against.

I swear I want to put her in a bubble--I would be livid if I met an anti-vaxxer in real life. (Or at least an anti-vaxxer who CHOOSES not to vaccinate, not one like us that can't medically vaccinate)

and this, this is exactly why I would say something, even if it was just something like "oh, that's too bad, it would have been fun to get together with the kids."

Same. I know a few people who don't vaccinate and have posted things about it on fb and I always speak up. I am polite but have no problem sharing that there is absolutely no science behind the anti-vax movement.

rosesandpetals · April 2014

Not with vaccines. There are certain topics where I have to literally bite my tongue and even then sometimes I can't stop myself.

I also have a really bad habit of patronizing people just to get them going so they sound ridiculous. If people think you're on their side, they say all kinds of crazy shit. Like one time I got a, "You have to be a Godless heathen to make it in this world." because Tebow was cut from some football team.
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nonoemily · April 2014

I generally make it a point to bite my tounge when it comes to other peoples choices. I expect the same in return. I don't give advice unless someone asks.

I know some people IRL who don't vax and I don't especially care unless they try and talk to me about it.

I actually know one woman who gave me shit about vaxing my kids, and then I was like, umm, yeah, all those things you just said are bullshit. Do whatever you want but don't talk shit to me because I care more about science than being cool and anti-establishment.

hayleydeee · April 2014

We have good friends who don't vaccinate. I've never said anything to them about it, even though I have strong personal feelings about it.

AprilLVE · April 2014

I probably wouldn't have said anything, either, then the whole way home would have wished I had. Although,I doubt you would have changed her mind. You probably would have just ended up really aggravated.

LatteLady5 · April 2014

amy052006 said:

We have good friends who don't vaccinate. I've never said anything to them about it, even though I have strong personal feelings about it.
What do you do when your kids are newborns? Did you hang out with them?

This is what I was wondering too. I left an auction the other day because DD wanted to play with some Amish kids that were there. The kids were adorable but I know they don't believe in vaccinating and I'm not willing to risk exposing my not old enough to be vaccinated kids to vaccine preventable diseases.

We have some friends who don't vaccinate anymore though their oldest has received all of hers. I would love to hang out with them but not until my kids are older and have had their vaccinations.

HBirdie · April 2014

I made a joke about anti-vaxers to two friends I was hanging out with a few weeks ago (they are plentiful in my community), and they both got reeeaally uncomfortable. I guess they're both doing a delayed vax schedule, which is better than not at all, but they are actually buying into some of this bull out there about vaccines being harmful to their children. I felt stupid in the moment, even though I strongly believe in vaccines.

Keeptruckin · April 2014

I think in real life that happens a lot. I want to believe I would say something if I was totally passionate but I doubt I would. A friend told me her 4 year old found her passed out in her closet covered in vomit, she laughed and I laughed too. Inside I was all omg, you are an alcoholic your poor kid!

Louie4real · April 2014

Keeptruckin said:

I think in real life that happens a lot. I want to believe I would say something if I was totally passionate but I doubt I would. A friend told me her 4 year old found her passed out in her closet covered in vomit, she laughed and I laughed too. Inside I was all omg, you are an alcoholic your poor kid!

Um...no. This WOULD warrant a saysomethinganythingatall. That qualifies as child abuse, even Jenny McCarthy would agree.

Louie4real · April 2014

^^right?! @auroraloo @amy052006 @anybodyelse???

lexusolsen · April 2014

Louie4real said:

Keeptruckin said:

I think in real life that happens a lot. I want to believe I would say something if I was totally passionate but I doubt I would. A friend told me her 4 year old found her passed out in her closet covered in vomit, she laughed and I laughed too. Inside I was all omg, you are an alcoholic your poor kid!

Um...no. This WOULD warrant a saysomethinganythingatall. That qualifies as child abuse, even Jenny McCarthy would agree.

Yeah that's neglect... Not funny

LatteLady5 · April 2014

Keeptruckin said:

I think in real life that happens a lot. I want to believe I would say something if I was totally passionate but I doubt I would. A friend told me her 4 year old found her passed out in her closet covered in vomit, she laughed and I laughed too. Inside I was all omg, you are an alcoholic your poor kid!

I would have said something and then called CPS. I also would end a friendship with an alcoholic who is cool with joking about her 4year old finding her covered in vomit hiding in the closet. I'm not trying to be harsh but there is no way I could keep my mouth shut.

Keeptruckin · April 2014

I know, her husband was home and taking care of the kids. But she said even he was laughing about it. I grew up with this friend, she had the workaholic parents who would come home and start double fisting scotch. When I slept over her parents would be loaded the whole time. She also talks on facebook about how when they go to Vegas on vacation, sans kids, she will end up throwing up at every casino. These are people who are educated almost 40 year olds. She is a CFO, he is a doctor! She did say they take turns drinking so one parents is available for the kids. So it was a Friday night, she got drunk, passed out in her walk in closet covered in vomit, dad got up with the kids, and one came looking for her. I think she is an alcoholic but there is no way she would ever admit it. I have distanced myself a lot, but I still feel so bad for the kids.

Louie4real · April 2014

wow...I would say "you're an alcoholic who is neglecting the needs of your children" and not ever talk to her again. It may not qualify as straight up neglect because one of the parents is technically there, but...its still wrong.

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