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It's official, I'm out! NIAW

Oh crap, there is no turning back now.  I've spent most of today drafting what I was going to write and I finally pulled the trigger and posted.  I also created my own banner since I couldn't find one I liked and I'm happy to share it with whoever would like to use it, you may download it here:

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I have to give some credit to this blog post I found today. She really articulated what I wanted to say and I swiped a couple of her sentences that really resonated with me to get my juices flowing.  https://operationbabygage.blogspot.com/2013/04/join-movement-opening-closet-door.html

But here is what I wrote, feel free to use it as your own inspiration.  I was crying as I posted it because I was so nervous, and it's only been up for a few minutes, but I have already received so much love and support. 

Facebook and social media are where we sound out about our lives, share insight into our families, homes and friendships, but so few of us are actually transparent (I'm pointing the finger at myself here) about our private struggles; we live two lives.  Publicly, I have been living a charmed life for the past 2 years.  A look at my Facebook timeline reveals trips around the world with my sweet and adorable husband, my Fur-baby Emma who is the light of my life, and sometimes fun and witty facebook statuses. And while I do lead a very blessed life; behind the curtain of social media my private life is a far different reality.  It's not all sunshine and rainbows over here as Curt and I have been struggling to grow our family due to infertility.  A true day in our reality consists of doctors appointments, blood draws, invasive ultrasounds, hormone injection shots, mood swings, exhaustion, insomnia, night sweats, emotional outbursts, bitterness, hot flashes, bloating, cramps, twinges, and a slew of side effects that I'm too embarrassed to discuss publicly.  And if that wasn't bad enough at the end of every month a big fat negative pregnancy test - ironically timed perfectly to a friend or family member's pregnancy or birth announcement - to really rub salt into our aching wounds.

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Yesterday marked the beginning of national infertility awareness week and after 2 years of sitting in silence it's feels nerve wracking to come out publicly about our infertility, especially since many close friends and family will be finding out with the general population by reading this post as it has been too awkward to bring up in conversation.  About 250 of my Facebook "friends" I have not spoken to personally in 10+ years and to share this intimate detail of our life with you makes me kind of want to throw up a little bit, but I felt compelled to share because 1 in 8 couples struggle with infertility, and I know we are not alone.  

There is a stigma and a lot of misinformation associated with infertility and its treatments that makes it so hush-hush all the time; and when it's not hush-hush people will more times then not say something completely insensitive since they simply do not understand or are misinformed.  I encourage everyone to read RESOLVE's etiquette on dealing with infertility as you will more then likely, at some point in your life, come into contact with a couple dealing with infertility and I'm sure would like to prevent that awkward moment when you insert foot in mouth.


During this difficult time I'm extremely thankful to the few who already know of our struggles for their love and support, the state of New Jersey who is 1 in only 15 states that mandate health insurance to cover infertility treatment (without this coverage we would not be able afford treatments of any sort, just one more reason New Jersey is awesome), the doctors, nurses and medical staff who are our hope for a miracle, and of course for my amazing and loving husband who continues to hold my hand so I do not loose myself on this journey.  As we practice patience and weather this storm we are confident that one day there will be a rainbow at the end of it; be it through medicated cycles, IVF, surrogacy, embryo adoption or adoption, there will be a child to hold in our arms to call our very own, and it will all have been worth it.  

To those who have faced infertility I have found my strength in you and to those currently struggling in silence my thoughts and prayers are with you.  Baby dust to all! 
"Someday everything will make perfect sense.  So for now, laugh at the confusion, smile through the tears and keep reminding yourself that everything happens for a reason"
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*** SIGGY WARNING ***

Happily Married Since 10.2006  •  TTC since 07.2012
HSG Good & SA mostly Normal  •  DX lean PCOS
MAR - NOV 2013  •  5 Cycles Clomid + TI = 2 Late O's/BFN & 3 Big Fat FAILS
DEC 2013 - FEB 2014  •  IUI #1-3  •  Femara 5mg + Trigger = 3 BFNs
MAR 2014  •  IUI #4  •  Follistim + Trigger + Crinone = BFN
APR 2014  •  Benched  •  BCPs to clear up Cysts

MAY 2014  •  IUI #5  •  Follistim + Ganirelix + Trigger = BFP
E.D.D. 2/18/2015
6/11 +HPT • 6/13 BETA 447 • 6/16 BETA 1535
6/23 U/S Adorable Little Bean • 6/30 U/S Beautiful Strong Heartbeat

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Re: It's official, I'm out! NIAW

  • Great post.

    BTW I love the ovarian cyst ecard on your siggy I just LOL'd. 

    PS your pic looks a lot like mine...gotta loves those pens and needles. :/

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    TTC: Started May 2012
    Bloodwork - potential ovulation issue which seemed to be fixed by clomid.
    SA - Mot (36%) and count low 9.3 mil (updated) 
    HSG - Oct 16 2013 - came back clear
    Clomid #1 - Nov. 2013 - BFN
    BFP#1 =  Clomid #2, Dec. 2013 - EDD 9.9.14 Loss Jan 9
    Femara #1 + Trigger (2/21) Feb. 2014 +ruptured ovarian cyst - BFN
    SIS clear
    April 2014: 50IU Follistim CD3-CD9 + 25IU CD10-CD13+CD13 trigger 1 mature follie= BFN
    IUI #1: May 2014 50IU Follistim + trigger + IUI = BFN
    IUI #2: June 2014 50IU Follistim + IUI (3 mil sperm)=  BFN
    TI #2: June 2014 50IU Follistim  + Trigger = BFN
    BFP#2 = IUI# 3: Aug 2014 75IU Follistim+ Trigger + IUI (2 mil sperm) EDD May 15

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  • That is a great post!!  The photo does help to sum it up a bit.  Kudos to you for your bravery!  I hope that you receive positive, supportive responses.
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    ME: 34, Atypical PCOS (lean, no O without meds) + unexplained; DH: 33, mildly low motility
    09/2012: Start TTC after stopping NuvaRing.  No cycles seemed to occur.
    01/2013 - 05/2013: Tried Provera to "jumpstart" cycles. No luck.
    12/2013-
    01/2014: Clomid 50mg - no big follies, stepped to 100mg; One mature follie, Ovidrel (HCG trigger), IUI #1 completed - BFN
    02/2014: Clomid 100mg;
    One mature follie, Ovidrel trigger, IUI #2 completed, Crinone - BFN
    03/2014: Clomid 100mg -
    no big follies on 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; One mature follie, Ovidrel, IUI #3 completed, Crinone - BFN
    04/2014-05/2014: Letrozole 5mg + Ovidrel HG to prep for IUI #4 switched to TI, Crinone - BFN
    05/2014-06/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #4.1 completed, Crinone - BFN
    07/2014-08/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #5 completed, Crinone - BFN
    09/2014-10/2014: IVF Prep - Insurance requires IUI #6;
    Letrozole 5mg - no big follies 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; IUI #6, Crinone - BFN
    11/2014: "Break" - Letrozole 5mg to cycle before prepping for IVF - successfully O'ed, but BFN
    12/2014: Extending 'break' one more Letrozole-only TI cycle for mental health break - BFN
    01/2015-
    02/2015: Prep for IVF - BCP then Gonal-F, Ganirelex, Novarel trigger;  ER scheduled 2/11!
    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4cf919
    PAIF/SAIF Welcome.
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  • What a wonderful post!  I applaud your bravery!
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    Me:36 DH:40
    Married since May, 2012; TTC since September, 2012
    DX: Blocked Fallopian Tube, Hashimoto's
    March 2014 - Clomid, Trigger, TI = BFN, April 2014 - Clomid, Trigger, TI = BFN, May 2014 - Clomid, estrogen, trigger, IUI = BFN, June & July 2014 - Natural cycles = BFN, August 2014 - Femara, estrogen, trigger, IUI = BFN, September 2014 - Femara, estrogen, trigger, IUI = BFN
    Prepping for IVF in with ER/ET slated for early February


  • I love the way you worded that and if i had the courage, i would do something similar. It is so very true that we live 2 lives: one that is public and reflected in what is expressed on facebook, and another behind closed doors and becomes a silent struggle.
    Kudos to you for coming out!
     
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    TTC since 4/2012
    Started testing 5/2013: all clear, official diagnosis is "unexplained infertility"
    7/2013: first round of Clomid + TI
    8/2013: more bloodwork, low progesterone, low estradiol
    9,10,11,12/2013: TI + hcg injections 3,5,7,9DPO
    1/2014: Clomid + hcg trigger + TI
    2/2014: Clomid + hcg trigger + TI, natural cycle due to cyst
    3/2014: Clomid + hcg trigger + IUI #1
    4/2014: hcg trigger + IUI #1.2
    5,6/2014: on a mental/emotional health break
    7/2014: hcg trigger + IUI #1.3
    8/2014: first succesful IUI! (but no bfp)
    9/2014: IUI #2
    10/2014: hcg + IUI #3
    11/2014: SHG (fibroid not an issue)
    12/2014: Clomid + hcg + IUI #4
    1/2015: Clomid + hcg + Estrace + IUI #5

  • Well done, and composed in such a way that I'm sure EVERYONE on this board can relate and understand where you're coming from, and hopefully people in your everyday life will be more aware and understanding too!

    Me: 37 | DH: 41
    TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
    IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
    IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
     08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
    So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
     
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  • Very well worded post, I wish I had the balls to post something similar!

    Married 12/4/12

    Began TTC 11/2012

    Diagnosed as anovulatory 7/2013

    Round #1 Clomid 50 mg 8/2013= BFN

    Round#2 Clomid 50 mg 9/2013=BFN

    First appointment with RE 9/27/2013

    HSG showed left tube completely blocked, diagnosed with hypothyroid and began 50 mcg Synthroid, Vitamin D level low and began 2000 iu Vitamin D, Hubby's SA showed "super sperm" according to RE

    Round#3 Clomid 50 mg + Ovidrel trigger 10/2013= BFN

    Round #4 Clomid 50 mg + Ovidrel trigger 11/2013=BFN

    Round #5 Clomid 50 mg (no trigger, on vacation) 12/2012= BFN

    Round #1 Femara 2.5 mg, no trigger, IUI cancelled due to early ovulation 1/2014= BFN

    1/25/2014= BENCHED for the first time (two leftover follies on the right)

    2/7/14 Diagnosed with MTHFR/Benched

    4/2014 Round #2 Femara 5mg, IUI #1=BFN

    4/28/14 positive opk with no treatment while on break, confirmed with ultrasound= BFN

    5/16/14 5mg Femara + trigger + TI=  BFN

    6/2014 5mg Femara + trigger + TI= BFN

    Awaiting IVF consultation appointment on 7/29/2014

    8/8/14 Began BCP's to prep for IVF

    9/16/14 Began Lupron injections

    9/25/14 Began stimming for IVF #1 with Menopur and Bravelle

    10/8/14 10 eggs retrieved

    10/13/14 2 embryos transferred

    10/21/14 BFP!!!

    11/24/14 confirmed that baby stopped growing at 6 weeks, d&c scheduled 




  • Kudos to you!!!!

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    TTC since 2012
    Me 35, DH 32 -DH SA all clear
    8/97 severe perotinitis infection as a result of ruptured appendix. poss abdomen/tube scarring
    1/12 HSG all clear!
    2/12 Multiple fibroids diagnosed,  2 submucosal
    3/14 Hashimoto diagnosed, began treatment
    3/14 first RE appointment
    5/14 successful lapriscopic myomectomy via power morcellation
    as of 7/14.....not so patiently waiting
    poss IUI/IVF fall 2014
      BIG Surprise BFP Aug 2014!


  • That's a great post! Kudos to you for putting it out there!

    Me: 30  DW (aka C): 29

    Together since 2/15/11 ~ Legally married in NY on 9/29/12

    ***CP mentioned***

    We've been working on baby #1 since July 2013 using Open ID donor sperm.  8 IUI attempts with 5 actual IUIs and one chemical pregnancy.  We have one fresh IVF cycle under our belts as well as a FET.  I have endometriosis and a uterine septum that was corrected via surgery in November 2013. 

    11/14/14 -  Second HSG shows that tubes are still clear and ute is looking good. 

    12/6/14 - Started BCPs in prep for IVF #2

    12/22/14 - Saline u/s and endometrial scratch (All was clear and OUCH!)

    1/2/15 - Began stimming for IVF #2

     ****All Welcome!****

    We are Mommas to four fur babies - 3 dogs and 1 cat.

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  • That was amazing. 

    ****siggy warning****

    Me 29/ DH 28
    DH- MFI (low count, 2-3% morph)

    IUI #1 January - Clomid, Ovidrel: BFN
    IUI #2 February - Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel: BFP 1st beta-25, 2nd beta-56, 3rd beta-45, miscarriage
    IUI #3 April - CD3 U/S 4-10. Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel CD11 - Cancelled.. TI w/5 follicles-BFN
    IUI #3.1 May - CD3 U/S 5-6, Follistim start 5-11 thru 5-17, u/s 5-18 3 mature w/ a close 4th, IUI 5-20 - BFP!
                 Beta #1 12dpo - 164 & progesterone - 89!, Beta #2 16 dpo - 1189, 5w3d - u/s shows TWINS!
                 6/19- u/s showed heartbeats! Baby A 111 & Baby B 118, both measuring 6w1d
                 7/3- Baby A hb 170, Baby B hb 166 - both measuring perfect.
                 7/18 - Baby A 165, Baby B 171 - both measuring right on track & moving all around!

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  • Good job

    TTC since July 2009. Dx MFI & LPD. 
    IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
    IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
    IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
    IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
    BFP! Beta 1:104 @ 10dp6dt, Beta 2:178 @ 12dp6dt,  beta 3:366 @ 14dp6dt
    Saw heartbeat twice before missed M/C at 8w3d on 12/27/13, missing my little angel boy
    JUNE 2014 IVF#2;  5R, 2M, 1F Three day transfer 6/7.  Beta 6/18 - BFN
    Child Free Now?
    S/PAIFW , S/PALW

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  • That's a great post!  


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    Me (34): MTHFR, PCOS, Endo, left salpingectomy due to hydrosalpinx, 
    hypothyroidism, low AMH (0.26)/normal FSH/average AFC of 12

    Him (33): No known issues

    November 2013-March 2014: Natural cycles
    April 2014: Clomid 100mg and Ovidrel trigger -- BFN
    May 2014: Clomid 100mg and Ovidrel trigger -- BFN
    July 2014:  IVF class -- Check!
    Holy crap.  Unmedicated BFP 7.22.14.  EDD 4.01.15.
    Best April Fool's Day ever!
    Now on Lovenox, prenatals, Vitamin D,
    Folic Acid, and Synthroid.
    Please be our take home baby.

  • Awesome!! That is a great post. :)

    Me: 32  DH: 33  Married: March 2004

    July 2006: started TTC
    2008: HSG (normal), couple rounds of clomid through gyno
    2008 - 2010: dragging my feet out of fear and procrastination
    October 2010: first consultation with RE, dx PCOS and fibroids (DH slightly low count/motility)
    Oct. 2010 - Dec. 2012:  In DENIAL! avoided the issue because I was scared of surgery
    January 2013: returned to RE, fibroids grew significantly
    February 2013: second HSG, fibroids pushed on tubes which blocked them somewhat
    March 2013: MRI to determine what type of surgery may be necessary

    July 29, 2013: fibroids (5) removed via robotic laparascopy
    August 2013 - Nov 2013 : benched due to recent surgery

    IUI #1, Dec. 24, 2013, BFN 
    IUI #2, Jan. 25, 2014, BFN
    IUI #3, Feb. 25, 2014  BFN
    IUI #4 canceled due to lack of response to letrozole
    IUI #4.1 April 28, 2014, BFN

    May 16, 2014: wtf consult, start prepping for IVF in June and add injects for one last IUI in the meantime
    IUI #5 started letrozole and bravelle but canceled after HSG led to new diagnosis

    May 21, 2014: third HSG, tubes blocked, one at the beginning, one hydrosalpinx??
    June 11, 2014: consult, approved to move on to IVF because the hydro is not completely blocked therefore allowing fluid to move through slowly rather than backwards
    IVF #1 August 8, 2014 - 3dt of 2 embryos, BFN
    September 17, 2014 - 4th HSG, the right tube is very patent (open!!) dye went straight through this time. Weird!
    October 2, 2014 - started metformin treatment
    November 14, 2014 - blood work, brought A1C down from 5.8 to 5.5

    November 26, 2014 - RE finally back from vaca and reviewed my chart, no more IVFs for rest of calendar year
    December 1, 2014 - Right after Thanksgiving, I called a new clinic and got in right away! Plan for IVF
    December 17, 2014 - ER! 29 retrieved (!!), 16 mature, all 16 fertilized (ICSI)

    IVF #2 December 20, 2014 - 3dt of 3 embryos, BFN

    We are done with treatment unsuccessfully. :(


    PAIF/SAIF/All Welcome!

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  • That took a lot of courage!!
    **siggy warning**
    3/09 Clomid 50mg - no O
    5/09 Clomid 100 mg - no O
    7/09 HSG partial blockage, SA passed with flying colors
    7/09 Clomid 150 mg - O BFP! DD 4/24/10
    1/13 off BCP
    7/13 Clomid 50 mg - no O
    9/13 Clomid 100 mg - no O
    11/13 Clomid 150 mg - no O
    12/13 diagnosed PCOS
    1/14 IUI #1 Femara 5mg, Pregnyl, IUI BFN
    2/14 SHG, all clear!
    2/14 IUI #2 Femara 7.5mg, Pregnyl, IUI BFN
    3/14 IUI #3 Femara 10 mg, Pregnyl, B2B IUI BFFN (low sperm count)
    4/14 IUI #4 Femara 10 mg, Pregnyl IUI BFN (low sperm count)
    6/14 IUI #5 Femara 10mg, Pregnyl IUI (numbers back to normal!) BFP!!
    Beta #1: 474 Beta #2: 1346

  • Beautifully worded, and I'm glad your friends and family have been supportive since you posted!
    January 3T Siggy Challenge - New Year's Resolutions
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
    ***All Welcome***
  • This is great! I hope your message was well-received.
    **siggy warning**  **everyone welcome**

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    DS- 11.07.02
    DSS- 6.26.04
    Married- 6.29.13
    TTC Again- Sept. 2013
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    Test Results/Diagnosis- HSG & SA totally normal
    DX: 3/2014 Prolactinoma/Hyperprolactinemia- Started cabergoline 2/2014
    5/2014 Possible mild PCOS in addition to hyperprolactinemia??
    7/2014 Adding probable tubal factor to the diagnosis list
    9/2014 And now adding hypothyroid to the list- Started synthroid 9/2014
    Cycles 1-4 - Sept.-March- All Anovulatory 
    IUI #1 March/April-  Clomid 50mg + Clomid 100mg +Trigger + IUI #1 = BFN
     IUI #2 April/May-Clomid 100mg + Clomid 150mg + Trigger + IUI #2 + Endometrin=BFN
    IUI #3- June- Follistim 75iu + Trigger + IUI #3  Benched due to a 40 mm cyst. :-(
    IUI #3- July- Follistim 75iu + Trigger + IUI #3 + Endometrin = BFP! on 7/25/14
    Slowly rising betas - Ectopic suspected on 8/8/14 & confirmed on 8/11/14
    Methotrexate on 8/12/14 -HCG negative on 9/2/14
    IVF #1- November- Antagonist protocol: 11/1: start stims, 200iu of Follistim; 11/12 ER 17R/14M/14F; 11/17 5 day transfer of two blasts, 2 blasts and 2 expanding morulas frozen; 11/22 BFP!! (On FRER at 5dp5dt)
    Betas: 9dp5dt 205, 11dp5dt 497, 14dp5dt 1,709
    u/s at 5w0d- 1 sac; u/s at 6w0d 1 baby with heartbeat, another sac without a heartbeat
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  • Great job! You're so brave.
    Multiple TTCAL 1image
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     TTC #1 since March 2011 
    BFP #1: EDD 4/16/13~~blighted ovum w/ 2 gestational sacs~~Loss on 9/18/12
    BFP #2: EDD 9/3/13~~Slow HB at 1st U/S~~MMC -Loss on 2/13/13
    9/13, 10/13, 1/14: letrozole + trigger + TI = All BFNs
    3/14: IUI#1 letrozole/Bravelle/Menopur + trigger = BFN
    BFP #3: EDD 1/27/15 Please be our rainbow! ...Team Green


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    edited April 2014
    ****children & loss mentioned****Thanks girls, it really took everything I had to hit post but I'm beyond grateful that I did. My post receive 29 comments with the sweetest and most heartfelt words and 40 likes. My follow up post to thank everyone had 50 likes. Not a negative nelly in the bunch and if there was they kept their mouth shut. I also had a few people creep out of the shadows to private msg, one had a miscarriage and is still struggling to conceive her second, another recently gave birth to her IUI baby after being unexplained, another just had a lap done to remove endo and a cyst - she will be going through IVF in the summer, each of thanked me to my post since they couldn't speak for themselves -I'm glad it brought me together with them so that I could provide them with support! I think it did make a difference and that's why I did it. Edited to add warning
    *** SIGGY WARNING ***

    Happily Married Since 10.2006  •  TTC since 07.2012
    HSG Good & SA mostly Normal  •  DX lean PCOS
    MAR - NOV 2013  •  5 Cycles Clomid + TI = 2 Late O's/BFN & 3 Big Fat FAILS
    DEC 2013 - FEB 2014  •  IUI #1-3  •  Femara 5mg + Trigger = 3 BFNs
    MAR 2014  •  IUI #4  •  Follistim + Trigger + Crinone = BFN
    APR 2014  •  Benched  •  BCPs to clear up Cysts

    MAY 2014  •  IUI #5  •  Follistim + Ganirelix + Trigger = BFP
    E.D.D. 2/18/2015
    6/11 +HPT • 6/13 BETA 447 • 6/16 BETA 1535
    6/23 U/S Adorable Little Bean • 6/30 U/S Beautiful Strong Heartbeat

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  • It was like you were reading my own thoughts. You truly captured so much of what this struggle is for all of us, both medically and emotionally. I pray for you, and for all of us everyday, that we will be able to have what most just seem to gain so easily. Thank you for sharing this blog and your feelings with us. I wish you the best of luck. 
    Me: 33 DH: 32
    TTC naturally since Dec 2011

    TTC ART since Dec 2012

    Dx: Seems to be low progestrone
    Drug Cocktails since Jan 2013
    List of Meds: Letrozole, Ovidrel, & Follistim, Prometrium, Endometrin

    BFP #1: Feb 2013; Lost 7 days later, Chem Preg
    BFP #2: June 2013; Lost 4 days later; Chem Preg

    BFP #3: Sept 2013; 6 wks pg; Miscarraige with DNC in Oct 

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