Trouble TTC

Welp.. 5 follicles now, IUI #3 cancelled :(

So I had my last u/s this morning.. my 4 follicles turned into 5. I think my sizes are around 19-21mm (4) and 1 at 18mm now. My RE said he won't do an IUI w/ that many. I triggered this morning right after the appt. So we have the option of natural intercourse if we want to risk it. My husband wants to, I'm on the fence now (even though we did BD last night). We are MFI so I'm leaning toward why not.. we tried for a year and never had a positive on our own. DANG IT!!! We were supposed to be moving on to IVF next but now my husband says no, he wants to do all three IUIs. Ugh. I was so excited this cycle too... I felt like we really had a chance.

Thanks for listening!!

****siggy warning****

Me 29/ DH 28
DH- MFI (low count, 2-3% morph)

IUI #1 January - Clomid, Ovidrel: BFN
IUI #2 February - Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel: BFP 1st beta-25, 2nd beta-56, 3rd beta-45, miscarriage
IUI #3 April - CD3 U/S 4-10. Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel CD11 - Cancelled.. TI w/5 follicles-BFN
IUI #3.1 May - CD3 U/S 5-6, Follistim start 5-11 thru 5-17, u/s 5-18 3 mature w/ a close 4th, IUI 5-20 - BFP!
             Beta #1 12dpo - 164 & progesterone - 89!, Beta #2 16 dpo - 1189, 5w3d - u/s shows TWINS!
             6/19- u/s showed heartbeats! Baby A 111 & Baby B 118, both measuring 6w1d
             7/3- Baby A hb 170, Baby B hb 166 - both measuring perfect.
             7/18 - Baby A 165, Baby B 171 - both measuring right on track & moving all around!

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Re: Welp.. 5 follicles now, IUI #3 cancelled :(

  • I'm sorry.  IF blows. 
    Me: 34 | He: 40
    TTC since 08/2012
    DX: DOR




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  • If I were in your situation and we have MFI, I'd do it.  Nothing is guaranteed and you only need one little swimmer to get up there and get things done. 
    Married on October 20, 2012.  Began trying in January 2013.
    RE appointment & testing December 2013 - February 2014= Unexplained IF, possible endometriosis
    IUI#1- March 22 (100mg clomid, 75 mg of Bravelle, Ovidrel trigger) = BFP!!!



  • That is a really tough (but personal) decision you and your DH will have to make...how many follicles did you have in your previous iui cycles? Since you had a bfp from an iui I would definitely agree with your DH that you should do all 3 (I might even do a few more) before moving on to the MUCH pricier and more invasive IVF, especially if paying OOP. Good luck with your decision.

    Me: 37 | DH: 41
    TTC Since 2011 DX: Unexplained 
    IUI's #1 - 3 = BFN
    IVF August 2014: FSH 4.1, PRL 15.3, TSH 2.1, W/ AFC 8.
     08/03 ER 5R, 4M, 3F. 08/08 5DT of 1-3AA0, 2 frozen :) bfp @9dp5dt. Beta on 08/20 = 414.
    So excited to have one little bean on the way!!
     
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  • I'm sorry that's a tough decision. My problem is egg quality and I just triggered with 5 mature but my RE was fine with that. I'm not going to lie it was scary. If it were me I'd probably try, but my situation is different. What ever you decide Good luck.
    Fucking bump!!!!
  • My first IUI we had 1, the second we had 2 at maybe 19-20mm. It's easier for me to want to move to IVF bc we are very lucky and have insurance to cover it. I'm just so emotionally drained of all of this.

    ****siggy warning****

    Me 29/ DH 28
    DH- MFI (low count, 2-3% morph)

    IUI #1 January - Clomid, Ovidrel: BFN
    IUI #2 February - Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel: BFP 1st beta-25, 2nd beta-56, 3rd beta-45, miscarriage
    IUI #3 April - CD3 U/S 4-10. Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel CD11 - Cancelled.. TI w/5 follicles-BFN
    IUI #3.1 May - CD3 U/S 5-6, Follistim start 5-11 thru 5-17, u/s 5-18 3 mature w/ a close 4th, IUI 5-20 - BFP!
                 Beta #1 12dpo - 164 & progesterone - 89!, Beta #2 16 dpo - 1189, 5w3d - u/s shows TWINS!
                 6/19- u/s showed heartbeats! Baby A 111 & Baby B 118, both measuring 6w1d
                 7/3- Baby A hb 170, Baby B hb 166 - both measuring perfect.
                 7/18 - Baby A 165, Baby B 171 - both measuring right on track & moving all around!

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  • BlueJoan said:
    I would probably go for it especially with MFI but I would need DH to be on board.  Odds are lower for multiples since the sperm will be unwashed and have the good and bad mixed in.  I'm sorry you have to even make this decision.  
    I didn't think about that point!! About being unwashed, very true. Hmm..

    ****siggy warning****

    Me 29/ DH 28
    DH- MFI (low count, 2-3% morph)

    IUI #1 January - Clomid, Ovidrel: BFN
    IUI #2 February - Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel: BFP 1st beta-25, 2nd beta-56, 3rd beta-45, miscarriage
    IUI #3 April - CD3 U/S 4-10. Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel CD11 - Cancelled.. TI w/5 follicles-BFN
    IUI #3.1 May - CD3 U/S 5-6, Follistim start 5-11 thru 5-17, u/s 5-18 3 mature w/ a close 4th, IUI 5-20 - BFP!
                 Beta #1 12dpo - 164 & progesterone - 89!, Beta #2 16 dpo - 1189, 5w3d - u/s shows TWINS!
                 6/19- u/s showed heartbeats! Baby A 111 & Baby B 118, both measuring 6w1d
                 7/3- Baby A hb 170, Baby B hb 166 - both measuring perfect.
                 7/18 - Baby A 165, Baby B 171 - both measuring right on track & moving all around!

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  • Yes, this is a tough decision.  I would probably go for it and see what happens.  My nurse told me that if you end up conceiving more than two embryos, they'll usually terminate the smallest embryo(s) to reduce major health issues.  I told my sister about this option and she freaked out because she thinks that is like abortion.  The option the nurse told me about actually gave me comfort that my babies wouldn't have too many multiples health issues.  The ultimate decision will be what you are most comfortable with.  I wish you luck!
    Me:30 (anovulatory and mild endometriosis)   DH: 33 No issues
    Married 7/15/12
    Began TTC 3/2013
    First appointment with RE 7/2013
    8/2013 benched w/ cyst
    9/2013 100mg clomid w/ menopur/cancelled due to 15+ foll.
    10/2013 25 mg. clomid w/trigger shot/2 foll. canceled IUI
    11/2013 benched w/cyst
    12/2013 25 mg. clomid w/trigger shot and IUI 3 foll. BFN
    1/2014 25 mg. clomid w/ trigger shot and IUI 2 foll. BFN
    2/2014 took off-too emotionally drained
    3/2014 25 mg. clomid w/ trigger shot and IUI 2 foll. BFN
    4/2014 injectibles w/ trigger and prog. inserts  2 foll. BFP!!! 
    4/21/14 Beta #1 715 (18 dpo)
  • I'm sorry you had to cancel. I was so disappointed when we had to cancel because of over responding. I can't offer any advice on whether or not to proceed with TI. I can certainly understand why you would want to though.

    Me: 30  DW (aka C): 29

    Together since 2/15/11 ~ Legally married in NY on 9/29/12

    ***CP mentioned***

    We've been working on baby #1 since July 2013 using Open ID donor sperm.  8 IUI attempts with 5 actual IUIs and one chemical pregnancy.  We have one fresh IVF cycle under our belts as well as a FET.  I have endometriosis and a uterine septum that was corrected via surgery in November 2013. 

    11/14/14 -  Second HSG shows that tubes are still clear and ute is looking good. 

    12/6/14 - Started BCPs in prep for IVF #2

    12/22/14 - Saline u/s and endometrial scratch (All was clear and OUCH!)

    1/2/15 - Began stimming for IVF #2

     ****All Welcome!****

    We are Mommas to four fur babies - 3 dogs and 1 cat.

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  • I'm so sorry! HIO and FX!
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • Do it. I would. Especially if you have MFI. You've went through all of this, just have sex. This could be your month, don't waste it!
    Me: 38     DH: 36
    Married: July 21, 2013
    TTC#1 (between us): June/July 2013

    DX: MFI (low count and motility)
    Charting/OPK/CBFM July 2013-present
    1st RE Visit: January 2014
    Cycling: 
    March 2014- 75iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFN and OHSS
    (8 million post wash 47% motility, 18mm/17mm/16mm/16mm/14mm follies)
    April/May 2014- Benched due to cysts/enlarged ovaries
    June 2014- 50iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFP!!
    (10 million post wash 60% motility, 20mm/19mm follies)
    Beta 1- 85 Beta 2- 2,752 - EDD 2/27/2015


    Everyone welcome. Strength in numbers!


  • @mommalawyer I think we are.. my husband said we are going "bang away" haha. I think I would totally regret not trying just because we are MFI & it seems his SA keeps coming back worse each time. I know he is on the Fertility Blend for like 6 weeks.. but I think you mentioned your DH's numbers went down even. So I'm less hopeful on them now.

    Thanks for all the kind words everyone!

    ****siggy warning****

    Me 29/ DH 28
    DH- MFI (low count, 2-3% morph)

    IUI #1 January - Clomid, Ovidrel: BFN
    IUI #2 February - Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel: BFP 1st beta-25, 2nd beta-56, 3rd beta-45, miscarriage
    IUI #3 April - CD3 U/S 4-10. Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel CD11 - Cancelled.. TI w/5 follicles-BFN
    IUI #3.1 May - CD3 U/S 5-6, Follistim start 5-11 thru 5-17, u/s 5-18 3 mature w/ a close 4th, IUI 5-20 - BFP!
                 Beta #1 12dpo - 164 & progesterone - 89!, Beta #2 16 dpo - 1189, 5w3d - u/s shows TWINS!
                 6/19- u/s showed heartbeats! Baby A 111 & Baby B 118, both measuring 6w1d
                 7/3- Baby A hb 170, Baby B hb 166 - both measuring perfect.
                 7/18 - Baby A 165, Baby B 171 - both measuring right on track & moving all around!

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  • I would probably go for it.  Mostly because of the MFI.  But, that said, it's such a personal decision...and I'm so sorry that you're even dealing with making this decision.  My fingers are crossed for you!  
  • I just had my first cycle cancelled and it sucks. We had 4 follicles and decided not to proceed on our own, if we had MFI we probably would have but since our diagnosis is unexplained we decided against it. Best of luck to you.
    BabyFruit Ticker'>*
    TTC #1 since January 2012  Dx: Unexplained infertility & hypothyroidism 
    8/13 BFP!    EDD:  April 25, 2014
  • MissEm15 said:

    @mommalawyer I think we are.. my husband said we are going "bang away" haha. I think I would totally regret not trying just because we are MFI & it seems his SA keeps coming back worse each time. I know he is on the Fertility Blend for like 6 weeks.. but I think you mentioned your DH's numbers went down even. So I'm less hopeful on them now.

    Thanks for all the kind words everyone!

    Yeah. My DH numbers went down when it came to the actual IUI. Why? I have no clue. I was choking back tears as I lay on the table doing the IUI. With MFI the little suckers have a harder time making it up the vaginal cavity, into the cervix, through the ute, and down to meet the egg. Even when being dumped off at the end of the fallopian tubes, they can struggle. There is always a risk of multiples. I think your risk is less with the MFI and TC. Obviously you have to do what is comfortable for you, regardless of any advice from us. :) Good luck. 
    Me: 38     DH: 36
    Married: July 21, 2013
    TTC#1 (between us): June/July 2013

    DX: MFI (low count and motility)
    Charting/OPK/CBFM July 2013-present
    1st RE Visit: January 2014
    Cycling: 
    March 2014- 75iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFN and OHSS
    (8 million post wash 47% motility, 18mm/17mm/16mm/16mm/14mm follies)
    April/May 2014- Benched due to cysts/enlarged ovaries
    June 2014- 50iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFP!!
    (10 million post wash 60% motility, 20mm/19mm follies)
    Beta 1- 85 Beta 2- 2,752 - EDD 2/27/2015


    Everyone welcome. Strength in numbers!


  • My RE explained the multiple follies for IUI as just giving us the chance to try many months together at once. After no pregnancy through TI since 1/2013, it's hard to think you'd suddenly have greater than 50% fertilization rate this month with TI, especially if the SAs are going down.

    That said, I can't even begin to imagine what we would choose in that situation. I do hope none of us will have to be in a situation where we're choosing between selective reduction and the awful risks of HOM. But wasting a medicated cycle, after all you've been through, sounds so painful.

    Good luck with whatever you choose! 
    January 3T Siggy Challenge - New Year's Resolutions
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
    ***All Welcome***
  • I'm so sorry you got cancelled!! I would go for TI still if I were in that position. Good luck making a decision!
    **siggy warning**  **everyone welcome**

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    DS- 11.07.02
    DSS- 6.26.04
    Married- 6.29.13
    TTC Again- Sept. 2013
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Test Results/Diagnosis- HSG & SA totally normal
    DX: 3/2014 Prolactinoma/Hyperprolactinemia- Started cabergoline 2/2014
    5/2014 Possible mild PCOS in addition to hyperprolactinemia??
    7/2014 Adding probable tubal factor to the diagnosis list
    9/2014 And now adding hypothyroid to the list- Started synthroid 9/2014
    Cycles 1-4 - Sept.-March- All Anovulatory 
    IUI #1 March/April-  Clomid 50mg + Clomid 100mg +Trigger + IUI #1 = BFN
     IUI #2 April/May-Clomid 100mg + Clomid 150mg + Trigger + IUI #2 + Endometrin=BFN
    IUI #3- June- Follistim 75iu + Trigger + IUI #3  Benched due to a 40 mm cyst. :-(
    IUI #3- July- Follistim 75iu + Trigger + IUI #3 + Endometrin = BFP! on 7/25/14
    Slowly rising betas - Ectopic suspected on 8/8/14 & confirmed on 8/11/14
    Methotrexate on 8/12/14 -HCG negative on 9/2/14
    IVF #1- November- Antagonist protocol: 11/1: start stims, 200iu of Follistim; 11/12 ER 17R/14M/14F; 11/17 5 day transfer of two blasts, 2 blasts and 2 expanding morulas frozen; 11/22 BFP!! (On FRER at 5dp5dt)
    Betas: 9dp5dt 205, 11dp5dt 497, 14dp5dt 1,709
    u/s at 5w0d- 1 sac; u/s at 6w0d 1 baby with heartbeat, another sac without a heartbeat
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