Late Term and Child Loss

the decission not to try again (rainbow baby mentioned)

I've wanted to post about this for a couple of days but wanted to find a time when I really had the time and energy to say what it is that I'm feeling.  This is going to get long... I apologize in advance.  So here it is...

I'm pretty sure (like 99.999% sure) that DH and I have made the decision to prevent all future pregnancies.  My feelings about this are so conflicted.  I feel like I'm mourning not only the loss of my children, but also the loss of the children that we may have had in the future.  This wasn't a decision we made lightly.  After we lost baby Gary I was desperate to be pregnant again right away.  Medically we had to wait six months.  When we got the green light we went full steam ahead.  It took us five cycles to get pregnant again.  Aubrey's pregnancy was physically easy, but mentally and emotionally exhausting.  My stress level was through the roof, I was in a constant state of panic, and I landed myself in the ER twice because I was convinced that she was gone.  When she finally arrived the relief I felt was immediate, I was just so happy to have her in my arms.  When we got pregnant again so quickly (quite by accident, but a happy accident to be sure) the same stress and worry that I felt with Aubrey came right back.  And when I got the call that our integrated screening had come back abnormal I had to call my husband to come home because I completely shut down.  Like many of you, and like I had with baby Gary, I knew then that Riley wasn't coming home with us.  Still, getting the news that our baby had no heartbeat several days later didn't hurt any less.  It was like a kick in the stomach... again. 

When we found out that I was pregnant with Riley, I wasn't ready- physically, emotionally, or mentally.  At that time, DH and I talked and decided that this would be the last pregnancy.  I wouldn't do this again.  Then when we got the results of our integrated screening we discussed it again.  No matter the results, we weren't going to try again.  I couldn't handle another round of stress and anxiety.  And then when we found out that Riley was gone we discussed it again.  I feel strongly that I NEVER want to be pregnant again.  And at the same time I also feel strongly that our family isn't finished.  As much as I adore Aubrey there's something missing.  It's hard for me to tell if I feel that way because I have two children who should be here with us and are not, or because I am supposed to have more children.  The thought of being pregnant again makes me sick to my stomach with worry, but the idea that I will never again give birth, never hold my newborn child, never have those newborn moments in those first days at home, that Aubrey may never have a brother or sister absolutely breaks my heart and brings me to tears when I think about it.  How selfish I am to take that away from her, is my first thought.  And then how selfish I am to take her mommy away from her while I'm pregnant and incapable of dealing with my life because I'm completely consumed by worry and fear.  I feel like it's a catch 22, like no matter what decision I make it will be the wrong one.  And still I KNOW that I NEVER want to be pregnant again.  So why is it so hard to accept that?  No one is taking it away from me.  It's a decision I'm making myself.  I know there are those out there who would love just to be able to be pregnant and here I am saying that I'm not willing to try.  I know how unfair that seems.  As unfair as it felt as I sat in an abortion clinic waiting to have my very much wanted child taken from me while surrounded by teenagers relieved to give theirs away.  And yet I just can't do it again. 

DH and I have talked about looking into adoption down the road.  But the adoption process is long and expensive.  If we're going to do it I just want to get started, but I know that I have to heal from this last loss before I can head down that path.  I need to accept that Aubrey will be my only living biological child and I'm not ready to do that.  I need to mourn the loss of this baby before I could even consider bringing another one home. 

I know all too well that this journey through loss is long and hard.  Just when you think you're getting there, you get knocked back a few steps.  Behind every bright light in your life is this speck of darkness that's never going to go away.  I've learned to live with that once and I know that I will again.  I know that this decision is just another difficult path on this journey.  But it's a really sucky one.  How can I possibly make the choice to quit?  And how can I possibly not?  Like I said, I'm quite certain that the decision has been made, but I'm not dealing with it well. 

If you got to the end of all this, thank you.  I know it was long and wordy and confusing, but I needed to get it out there.  That being said... are there any other loss moms out there who have made the decision not to try again?  Any shared experience would be helpful. 
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Re: the decission not to try again (rainbow baby mentioned)

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    Just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you. The decision to have a future pregnancy or not is such a hard one. Don't feel guilty for what you are thinking and feeling. All of your children have deeply affected your life in each of their own ways. Its okay to decide to stop and its okay to mourn that decision because of the finality. It does not make you a bad mom or a bad person. The decisions you are facing are weighty ones. T&Ps headed your way.



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  • Thinking of you! I know that can't be an easy decision. I'm sure you probably read this... But if not Still Standing just had an article talking about the same thing. https://stillstandingmag.com/2014/03/trying/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=stillstandingmagazine
  • Thank you for sharing that link! I missed that one but it's exactly it.
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  • Just want to offer ((((hugs)))))

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  • I'm so sorry! It is never easy to make the hard decisions, but if you honestly feel that you will be a healthier person by making this decision, then there is nothing wrong with that. Nothing could ever fill the hole that we loss moms have, and I suppose there is no such thing as a 'bad' or 'wrong' decision. Big Hugs!!
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  • I have been thinking of you so much these past weeks and want to send some ((hugs)).
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  • With the last mess of my cycle, sometimes I think maybe I won't be able to handle being pregnant. The whole idea sometimes makes me so anxious that I feel sick to my stomach. I understand the feeling of not wanting to be pregnant anymore. Its as if you have to grief for the decision to stop trying in order to accept that it is just the journey your life is going to take.
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  • Thanks for your input, ladies. I'm just having such a hard time coming to terms. I know this loss was a lot earlier than my first so I didn't have as much time to bond with Riley, but in many ways this loss has been harder than my first. Maybe because it's the second my confidence in my body to work the way it's supposed to is basically gone. I felt that way the first time, but it's different this time. I really don't believe that I could ever carry a healthy baby to term again hence not wanting to try.
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  • first of all, my heart is still just breaking for you.  The thought of having to go through a late loss twice seems unfathomable to me. I can't imagine what you are going through.

    I agree with rsigler...you don't have to make a final choice right in this instant.  your wounds are so fresh and you are dealing with some really complicated grief.  could you and DH decide that you are done for now and maybe revisit the issue in a year or so? 

    again, I am so sorry that you are in this position and dealing with so much.  ((hugs))

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  • I am also sending lots of hugs to you. Everyone has already offered great advice and I agree that you don't have to make a final choice right now. I can relate to not wanting to try again. I have had five losses and it's very traumatic, depressing and defeating. We don't have any living children just yet and so desperately want a living child so we are hoping for our rainbow. However after our rainbow we have decided that we will most likely be one and done. I know that seems crazy to most because we don't even know what one living child will be like and I imagine there is always that desire for more but given our history we just can't continue to put ourselves through this journey. Maybe it's selfish to our hopefully one day child but it is what it is.

    I often remind myself that we will be one and done and it does bring me some peace in a way. Staying pregnant has been such a battle for the past 4.5 years and once we succeed and have a rainbow I just can't imagine ever wanting to battle it again. It is just too hard.

    I am thinking if you. I know it's a really big decision.
  • Unfortunately, I don't have much to add - lots of great advice has been given by these wonderful ladies. Know that all of your thoughts and feelings are valid. Don't be afraid to feel them. I don't know if I even want to try again, and I have not suffered two losses as you have. I can understand why it would be a decision you want to make and whatever decision you make it okay. I will be thinking of you during this really difficult time.

    @jess123456 and @lrichmond86, I admire you ladies so much for your incredible strength. I already feel so disheartened and I can't even begin to fathom how you're feeling.
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    @lrichmond86 It's not your attitude at all, I promise! It's just really fresh. They say it gets easier. You never forget, but it gets easier. We are just so caught up in missing a very much wanted, loved little one, like so many of you. I just don't know if I could even deal with another loss. It's the crappiest experience I've ever had and I don't trust myself to be strong enough to go through it again (right now). Maybe with time that will change, I just feel torn.

    ETA: I think it takes a lot of strength to make a "final" decision like that and I admire it. I still don't know what we'll do long-term, but I admire you either way.
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  • I've been thinking about you a lot, and having to make this difficult decision. I agree with PP that perhaps giving yourself some time and distance before making this decision might be a good idea? We are only 6 months out from our loss, but I know that for me, in those 6 months, I have been all over the place. Some days I desperately want another baby, other days I think we might be done. We have decided we need to give ourselves time to grieve Colton before we make this decision, and so, have decided to wait until August, which will be one year, and then revisit it. Perhaps this is something to consider before doing anything too permanent? Just my little advice. I have not been pregnant with a rainbow, so I have never experienced PGAL and I think you are amazing for doing it twice and my heart is breaking for you for losing another baby. As PP said, whatever you decide will be the right decision for you family. ((Hugs))
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  • You've been through so much...I'm so sorry. Whatever you decide whenever you decide it... ((hugs))

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  • @lrichmond86  I just want you to know you're not alone in feeling this way. I'm so torn over trying again, but I know in my heart I cannot handle it emotionally right now.  I made an appointment to get another Mirena next week and I'm still so sad over it, but at least I don't have to make a permanent decision right now since our loss is still so fresh.

    Thinking of you.

     
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  • My heart aches for you. I can't imagine going through what you have gone through. 
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  • I'm so sorry. I have been out of the loop, I didn't know you had another loss. Huge hugs to you and I think everything you are feeling is valid and normal given the situation.

    I hope you are able to come to terms with whatever decision you both feel is best for you. I can't even begin to tell you how to do that, but I hope that somehow it is possible.
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  • Irichmond, oh lovey, I'm so incredibly sorry you're at this cross road, and to find out that you've experienced yet another loss.  I am so heartbroken for you.  I was hoping for better updates from the faces that were around when the board first started.  I think you and your husband are wise and I think over time your decision will grow roots and you will feel more secure in it.  We are no where near ready for another pregnancy but every single day I feel like something isn't missing, that we aren't complete, and I am still trying to answer the same question:  is it because Logan isn't present on earth with us or is it because we weren't meant to have more earthly bound children.  I have no answer, but I do know what I am not ready for so for now, we wait and stick with that decision until/unless it morphs into something else.  *hugs*
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