Okay, I first want to say I love my husband very much. But wow, I know he works a long hard day but at night it is like a whole new person, a very unpleasant impatient and scary person.
For example he will be yelling at the twins (I feed one and he holds one/burp/feed) saying, "what the hell is wrong with you"!" "Dammit stop crying", " "what is your deal!" So I will say, "honey, she is just a baby maybe she needs a burp and then he is like I have been patting her back for 10 minutes (which I then say uh that was the other one) and he just gets mad and starts pounding her back with pats. He'll get so frustrated he puts her in the bassinet and tells her to cry it out he doesn't care...
When I tell him that they are just babies and to be patient he says he doesn't have any.
So then come morning he is so sweet and gives us kisses and tells me he loves us all and to call if I need anything.. And then put this on repeat every single night and morning.
Well since I am up feeding for what seems like half the night if they get off schedule, I am losing my patience with HIM and don't know what to do because every time I try and explain it to him or talk to him about it, he says he doesn't remember... Maybe if this was one child I could do the nights alone but with twins I just can't, it's too hard and my babies both need love and attention.
Anybody been through this or have suggestions? I am constantly telling him that I need his help but I can sit there and yell his name while 1 or 2 babies are screaming and he sleeps through it.
I know he feels a financial burden and has his business to run but it's just hard because I am already tired as it is and that is with someone coming to help me from noon to 5pm, hubby comes home around 8-9pm.
I'm so sorry. Newborns can be so frustrating. It's normal to feel overwhelmed and frustrated, especially with twins, but I'd honestly be worried about his anger. Is there anybody he can talk to?
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I agree with everyone else. I'd hate to see anything bad happen. Baby's are stressful, especially two, but it's not their fault and he needs to man up when he's home. He needs professional help and you need a person there to help as well.
Rally the troops! Get all the family/friend help you can and then sit down with your husband and share your worries. I agree with the others, he may be a wonderful man but he is completely overwhelmed. Without help he may do something you both will seriously regret. We all get frustrated but it sounds like he's wound up out of the starting gate. I'm sure this is all scary and overwhelming for you too. Hoping you can find a path through this with him!
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I recommend, too, asking for more help if he may not be helping. However, remember he loves you and is trying. It's a stressful time - be there for each him. Ask for help with babies and show him how to handle things little steps at time. With feeling overwhelmed he may need some hand-holding through the learning process. So, if you get he help you need from someone else, then you can introduce him to the "how-to's" in a less stressful way.
I am sorry you are going through this. I really am. I am sure you are overwhelmed and YH definitely sounds like he is too. I agree with the PPs that you need to intervene before something bad happens. Your babies are still so little and you guys have a long road ahead of you if he can't figure out how to cope.
Try to get someone to come stay with you to help with the night feedings in the short term. Then you need to sit down with YH and talk to him, not in the middle of the night when he is at his limit, but during the day when the more rational side takes over. This has the potential to be an unsafe situation for your LOs so I would act as soon as you can.
I agree with pp's he may mean well but this does have the potential to be dangerous. I've seen the devastating effects of shaken baby syndrome and it's absolutely awful. It's not something that happens just from bad parents. It only takes losing your cool for a few seconds to turn tragic. Please reach out for help I'm sure he's not a bad guy and sure he loves you and the babies but this really needs addressed before something bad happens!
First let me say that I am happily married to a man that had similar anger/stress issues in the past. They rear their heads at the most Unopportune times... It took a substantial blow to our personal lives for me to get help but after a year of counciling and now a year of open communication, I can honestly say our relationship has never been better. I'm no longer afraid of him when he's mad or upset and he's learned to control his temper and direct his frustrations appopriately.
I totally agree with PP's, you HAVE to reach out for help. I have no doubt DH is a great guy but his behavior when he is angry/stressed is absolutely unacceptable. I realize this may not feel like an opportune time to seek counciling but if you don't fix it now it will get worse and you will continue to feel scared, isolated, and eventually resentful. Assuming no one gets hurt. You can't keep hoping it doesn't get worse. You have to make time to turn it around, now.
Can you talk to his mom? She may have seen him at his max stress level in the past and have some insights... if you're going to have someone around in the evenings he may be more comfortable with his family than yours at first, and they may be able to talk to him in a way yours wouldn't be able to. Also, if you vent to his mom she will forgive him, vent to yours and don't count on it. We mommas are protective
you certainly shouldn't have to "just deal with it" I know first hand how easy it is to make excuses for the one you love, but I've also seen it destroy my marriage because it doesn't fix anything and sooner or later you will run out of space to internalize it all. Work is work, he committed to starting a family with you and when you start a family, it should take first priority, ALWAYS. Being strong for you and your kids, doesn't mean "just dealing with it" it means getting him the help he needs to be the Daddy and husband you all deserve however you can. Good luck! You CAN do it and you deserve a loving, supportive partner on this crazy parenthood roller coaster!!! I'm very open about our experience and I'd be more than happy to talk with you if you ever need a boost.
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I had my husband's SIL help me for the 1st 3 weeks during nights so we have only had one week without help, she lives out of state and was sweet enough to come help me. His parents are out of state as well serving a religious mission. This is the only time I've actually missed my MIL.. My parents both work full time and all of our siblings have family.
My grandma passed away a week ago and if she left me any inheritance money it will definitely go towards a night nanny. My nanny during the day always tells me she can stay longer or stay a night but she's a senior in high school and I know her parents wouldn't be thrilled with that idea, but maybe come June, we can experiment with that.
I talked to him this morning and he helped me with the girls & apologized but when I said maybe we should go talk to someone about it he thought I was crazy and asked when we would even have the time.
There is one woman I feel like I could ask for help and if she talked to Marc he would really listen, I am calling her today. Maybe I'll ask some local twin moms if they know of any experienced night nannies.
If you can swing the night nanny, I'm sure that would be a tremendous help...but it's just a bandaid for the much bigger issue. You cannot tiptoe around his temper and just hope nothing sets him off. That is not a safe way for you to live. I know you love him, but your new #1 priority is the safety of your babies.
Counseling would obviously be the best solution. I hope you'll ask this family friend to speak with him again about the possibility of going. I know it is inconvenient with 2 newborns, but it might be the single most important thing at this point. If he refuses to go and he is incapable of seeing the dangerous pattern of his behavior, you might have to find somewhere else to stay for a while. I know that seems drastic, but it will keep you & your babies safe and impose on him the direness of the situation.
Have to agree with @AcaAwkward . Ultimately you need to get to the root of his behavior and fix that - not just find ways to avoid setting him off. That is not a good long term situation for you or your LOs. A night nanny would definitely help in the short term but will not fix the bigger problem.
If you can swing the night nanny, I'm sure that would be a tremendous help...but it's just a bandaid for the much bigger issue. You cannot tiptoe around his temper and just hope nothing sets him off. That is not a safe way for you to live. I know you love him, but your new #1 priority is the safety of your babies.
Counseling would obviously be the best solution. I hope you'll ask this family friend to speak with him again about the possibility of going. I know it is inconvenient with 2 newborns, but it might be the single most important thing at this point. If he refuses to go and he is incapable of seeing the dangerous pattern of his behavior, you might have to find somewhere else to stay for a while. I know that seems drastic, but it will keep you & your babies safe and impose on him the direness of the situation.
What she said, there are so many red flags in your original post hun. It's time to look for help.
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I agree with and echo what has been said above. He needs and deserves help. He won't seek it for himself so you have to help him get there one way or another.
I would suggest you both watch The Period of Purple Crying....it's about shaken baby but it offers good coping measures to deal with babies when emotions are high and how to watch for warning signs.
We watched it in the NICU, and I have reminded him of that and then he thinks that I think he is a bad father but I know he's not. And I know you all are right his mood swings need to get under control.
Thanks @AcaAwkward I am definitely going to try my hardest to take your advice. By Friday if it hasn't improved I think I will take them and stay at his parents house since the upstairs is vacant. You're right, right now my babies are my #1 priority, I love them so much and get so sad and angered thinking what if something happened to one of them . Thanks for being understanding and for the suggestions it really does help and makes me feel like I'm doing the right thing.
Sleep deprivation can bring out the worst in the best of people.
It is good to talk about it openly and when he gets to that point, he has to know that he needs to step away. Remind him that you understand how hard this time is, and know that it will get easier as they get older. In the meantime, Definitely see if you can call in reinforcements.
Everyone has given great advice. I'm sorry you are going through this and that it's so difficult to address the issue with him. It absolutely does not take a bad parent for something tragic to happen with regards to shaken baby syndrome. Frustration is a very normal reaction when adjusting to having a newborn in the house and it happens to the best of us, but it's very important for him to be aware of the healthiest strategies and resources for managing that stress. Best wishes to you.
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Twins are hard work! You have gotten a lot of good advice so far. You and your hubby both need sleep and respite. We've had someone from church over to give me a 2 hr nap in the afternoon every day. Family members coming at night to give us a break and a chance to eat or run errands. My parents work full time too, but have helped after work and on weekends. Accept all help offered and ask for more if you need it. Definitely work through the issues with DH but unless you both get some rest it will be hard to function as a team. Take care!!
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Yes, thank you everyone so much for the help & encouragement.
Things have been much better. The mama bear in me really came out and he started to feel bad that I wouldn't let him help. I then shared with him some other people's personal experience with it and how it wasn't him that i didn't trust but the other sleep deprived, angry side of him that i don't trust. I had to really tell him that this can happen to anyone but only you have control. We are religious so I told him to pray for strength to overcome it. I also found some notes he wrote a couple years ago in his journal about Anger- which sounds odd but was an answer to my prayers. I left the journal out for him on the bed and that really hit home for him, I know that a few years ago he didn't need that advice but he needed it now. It talked about how nothing positive ever came from getting angry, and that almost always people regret the consequences of getting angry, especially if they can't escape the negative feelings they are having. Also talked about how the only person who can actually make you angry, is yourself. He loves his little girls so much, so I know he came to a big realization where his anger is coming from after reading this.
So we came up with a schedule & twice a week, Sunday and Wednesday night I will have a friend help me and he will get 2 full nights of sleep for the work week. We did this on Thursday night and he's been in such a better mood since. I also have him sit up and stand up when he's helping so it wakes him up faster.
Of course we are still learning and I'm trying my best to help him and take care of the twins. It helps me that in the night they are starting to sleep 4 hours, love my sweet babies.
glad you guys found some solid coping methods and were able to have a good, productive sit-down. Being able to accept behaviors in ourselves is sometimes really hard but it sounds like you are moving forward with purpose. Yay!
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Try to get someone to come stay with you to help with the night feedings in the short term. Then you need to sit down with YH and talk to him, not in the middle of the night when he is at his limit, but during the day when the more rational side takes over. This has the potential to be an unsafe situation for your LOs so I would act as soon as you can.
I totally agree with PP's, you HAVE to reach out for help. I have no doubt DH is a great guy but his behavior when he is angry/stressed is absolutely unacceptable. I realize this may not feel like an opportune time to seek counciling but if you don't fix it now it will get worse and you will continue to feel scared, isolated, and eventually resentful. Assuming no one gets hurt. You can't keep hoping it doesn't get worse. You have to make time to turn it around, now.
Can you talk to his mom? She may have seen him at his max stress level in the past and have some insights... if you're going to have someone around in the evenings he may be more comfortable with his family than yours at first, and they may be able to talk to him in a way yours wouldn't be able to. Also, if you vent to his mom she will forgive him, vent to yours and don't count on it. We mommas are protective
you certainly shouldn't have to "just deal with it" I know first hand how easy it is to make excuses for the one you love, but I've also seen it destroy my marriage because it doesn't fix anything and sooner or later you will run out of space to internalize it all. Work is work, he committed to starting a family with you and when you start a family, it should take first priority, ALWAYS. Being strong for you and your kids, doesn't mean "just dealing with it" it means getting him the help he needs to be the Daddy and husband you all deserve however you can. Good luck! You CAN do it and you deserve a loving, supportive partner on this crazy parenthood roller coaster!!! I'm very open about our experience and I'd be more than happy to talk with you if you ever need a boost.
I had my husband's SIL help me for the 1st 3 weeks during nights so we have only had one week without help, she lives out of state and was sweet enough to come help me. His parents are out of state as well serving a religious mission. This is the only time I've actually missed my MIL.. My parents both work full time and all of our siblings have family.
My grandma passed away a week ago and if she left me any inheritance money it will definitely go towards a night nanny. My nanny during the day always tells me she can stay longer or stay a night but she's a senior in high school and I know her parents wouldn't be thrilled with that idea, but maybe come June, we can experiment with that.
I talked to him this morning and he helped me with the girls & apologized but when I said maybe we should go talk to someone about it he thought I was crazy and asked when we would even have the time.
There is one woman I feel like I could ask for help and if she talked to Marc he would really listen, I am calling her today. Maybe I'll ask some local twin moms if they know of any experienced night nannies.
Counseling would obviously be the best solution. I hope you'll ask this family friend to speak with him again about the possibility of going. I know it is inconvenient with 2 newborns, but it might be the single most important thing at this point. If he refuses to go and he is incapable of seeing the dangerous pattern of his behavior, you might have to find somewhere else to stay for a while. I know that seems drastic, but it will keep you & your babies safe and impose on him the direness of the situation.
It is good to talk about it openly and when he gets to that point, he has to know that he needs to step away. Remind him that you understand how hard this time is, and know that it will get easier as they get older. In the meantime, Definitely see if you can call in reinforcements.
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Things have been much better. The mama bear in me really came out and he started to feel bad that I wouldn't let him help. I then shared with him some other people's personal experience with it and how it wasn't him that i didn't trust but the other sleep deprived, angry side of him that i don't trust. I had to really tell him that this can happen to anyone but only you have control. We are religious so I told him to pray for strength to overcome it. I also found some notes he wrote a couple years ago in his journal about Anger- which sounds odd but was an answer to my prayers. I left the journal out for him on the bed and that really hit home for him, I know that a few years ago he didn't need that advice but he needed it now. It talked about how nothing positive ever came from getting angry, and that almost always people regret the consequences of getting angry, especially if they can't escape the negative feelings they are having. Also talked about how the only person who can actually make you angry, is yourself. He loves his little girls so much, so I know he came to a big realization where his anger is coming from after reading this.
So we came up with a schedule & twice a week, Sunday and Wednesday night I will have a friend help me and he will get 2 full nights of sleep for the work week. We did this on Thursday night and he's been in such a better mood since. I also have him sit up and stand up when he's helping so it wakes him up faster.
Of course we are still learning and I'm trying my best to help him and take care of the twins. It helps me that in the night they are starting to sleep 4 hours, love my sweet babies.
I'm glad you were able to get through to your husband
I hope things continue to improve for you guys. Good luck!