Just wondering who had this done, and if it worked? Also, when during your cycle was it done? We're planning this since our first ivf cycle failed. They said they can do the scratch in the luteal phase prior to stimming (which is before AF), or at the beginning of stimming (like day 3). My RE says they've had success with both timings. Would like to hear any of your experiences and what you'd recommend. TIA
Married September 5, 2009
TTC #1 since December 2010 DH (33): Perfect Me (33): All tests normal; Unexplained IF IUI #1 July 2012 - Chemical IUI #2 - #6 - All BFN IVF #1 (New RE) March 2014 - Antagonist Protocol - 15R, 6F, transferred 2 5day embies -BFN
I did it prior to stimming and I was successful this round. We did a few things differently this time around so it's hard to say if that is what did the trick or not, but I do recommend giving it a try!
I had it done 1 week ago so I can't say if it worked, but for timing it was at the end of my BCP 4 days before starting stims. Good luck!
EDIT: My RE and all the literature supports doing it prior to the IVF cycle. I questioned my RE that he was doing so close to stims but I had a period after the BCP ended and he said that the newest literature says that timing is ok. I have never read anything about doing during stims.
TTC #1 since November 2011
Dx: Unexplained Infertility, probable endometriosis Feb-April 2013: Femara + TI: BFN May - September 2013: Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI#1-4 = BFN IVF # 1 November 2013: transferred 1 perfect blast = BFN IVF # 2 April 2014: Endo scrape, transferred 2 blasts = BFP!! (first ever!), CP FET #1 June 2014: transferred 2 blasts = BFFN New Dx: Repeat Implantation Failure IVF # 3 November 2014 = BFP!! Beta #1 9dp5t 272 Beta # 2 11dp5dt 626 It's Twins! *everyone welcome*
Thanks ladies for all your input. I just got off the phone with the PA at my REs office. She said there's no evidence related to which timing is better. But that's kinda hard to believe. I know most of the research talks about it being done the cycle prior to ivf. She says there's no harm doing it during stims, and they've had success w it before. They're advising us to do it at the beginning of stims bc there would be no chance of disrupting a preg then. They want us to try on our own the month before, bc we are unexplained and there's still a possibility we may conceive naturally..and doing it in the luteal phase would be harmful if I were preg.
After some thought we are planning to take a month off and start stims in June, but we will still try on our own in April. If we aren't preg next month, I think I will just go w my gut feeling and do the scratch during my luteal phase prior to stims.
Married September 5, 2009
TTC #1 since December 2010 DH (33): Perfect Me (33): All tests normal; Unexplained IF IUI #1 July 2012 - Chemical IUI #2 - #6 - All BFN IVF #1 (New RE) March 2014 - Antagonist Protocol - 15R, 6F, transferred 2 5day embies -BFN
I did it for our second FET about a month prior to transfer and we were successful. It hurts for 30 seconds. They scratch 4 times quickly (once in each quadrant). My RE counted 1-2-3-4 and it was over. GL!
< Married June 2011 Dx: anovulatory due to prolactinoma (1.5cmx 1.5cm in 2006) April 2012: MRI- questionable cyst 8mg by 12mm in pituitary ; referred to RE by Ob-gyn after amenorrhea x 4+ months, provera ineffective, low estrogen level cycle 1: May 2012, clomid 50mg; cycle cancelled, thin lining, no response cycle 2: June 2012, femara 5mg; cycle cancelled, no response cycle 3: July 2012, femara 7.5mg; cycle cancelled (largest folli on Cd12 & cd 16: 11, lining 4) Repeat MRI July 25,2012- Cyst unchanged, likely old infarction. Aug. 8: met with RE, move to injectables if HSG and SA normal Aug. 23: HSG all clear; DH- perfect Switched to a new RE in early Sept. IVF here we come Genetic testing reveals: Fragile X- Intermediate risk/grey zone. IVF#1: ER 11/30: 14 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 fertilized. E2 prior to trigger 5200. Decision made to freeze 6 embryos and transfer later due to OHSS. IVF#1.2/FET #1: estrogen injects start 1/18, FET delayed to try to thicken lining. lining 5.4mm. FET- 2/18- transferred one 3AA expanded blast. BFP 5dp5dt. Beta #1- 2/27 9dp5dt- 102.27 beta #2 3/1: 147 , beta #3 3/4: 268 told to stop meds and let nature take its course. requested 4th beta (3/6); Beta hell for 2 months.
FET # 2: endometrial scratch 5/6, added estrace vaginally and ASA to delestrogen and PIO. June 10- transferred one 4AA hatched embryo, BFP 4dp6dt, Beta 1 (9dp6dt) 187, Beta 2 (11dp6dt): 412; Beta 3 (15dp6dt ): 4452. U/S #1- one beautiful embryo with a heartbeat of 133 at 7 weeks. 8 weeks: heartbeat 156. EDD 2/26/2014: born 2-3-14 induced due to Pre-E and HELLP at 36w5d.
Re: Endometrial scratch
EDIT: My RE and all the literature supports doing it prior to the IVF cycle. I questioned my RE that he was doing so close to stims but I had a period after the BCP ended and he said that the newest literature says that timing is ok. I have never read anything about doing during stims.
Dx: Unexplained Infertility, probable endometriosis
Feb-April 2013: Femara + TI: BFN
May - September 2013: Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI#1-4 = BFN
IVF # 1 November 2013: transferred 1 perfect blast = BFN
IVF # 2 April 2014: Endo scrape, transferred 2 blasts = BFP!! (first ever!), CP
FET #1 June 2014: transferred 2 blasts = BFFN
New Dx: Repeat Implantation Failure
IVF # 3 November 2014 = BFP!! Beta #1 9dp5t 272 Beta # 2 11dp5dt 626
It's Twins!
*everyone welcome*
Dx: Unexplained Infertility, probable endometriosis
Feb-April 2013: Femara + TI: BFN
May - September 2013: Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI#1-4 = BFN
IVF # 1 November 2013: transferred 1 perfect blast = BFN
IVF # 2 April 2014: Endo scrape, transferred 2 blasts = BFP!! (first ever!), CP
FET #1 June 2014: transferred 2 blasts = BFFN
New Dx: Repeat Implantation Failure
IVF # 3 November 2014 = BFP!! Beta #1 9dp5t 272 Beta # 2 11dp5dt 626
It's Twins!
*everyone welcome*
DH (33): Perfect
Me (33): All tests normal; Unexplained IF
IUI #1 July 2012 - Chemical
IUI #2 - #6 - All BFN
IVF #1 (New RE) March 2014 - Antagonist Protocol - 15R, 6F, transferred 2 5day embies -BFN
I did it for our second FET about a month prior to transfer and we were successful. It hurts for 30 seconds. They scratch 4 times quickly (once in each quadrant). My RE counted 1-2-3-4 and it was over. GL!
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Married June 2011 Dx: anovulatory due to prolactinoma (1.5cmx 1.5cm in 2006)
April 2012: MRI- questionable cyst 8mg by 12mm in pituitary ; referred to RE by Ob-gyn after amenorrhea x 4+ months, provera ineffective, low estrogen level
cycle 1: May 2012, clomid 50mg; cycle cancelled, thin lining, no response
cycle 2: June 2012, femara 5mg; cycle cancelled, no response
cycle 3: July 2012, femara 7.5mg; cycle cancelled (largest folli on Cd12 & cd 16: 11, lining 4)
Repeat MRI July 25,2012- Cyst unchanged, likely old infarction.
Aug. 8: met with RE, move to injectables if HSG and SA normal
Aug. 23: HSG all clear; DH- perfect
Switched to a new RE in early Sept. IVF here we come
Genetic testing reveals: Fragile X- Intermediate risk/grey zone.
IVF#1: ER 11/30: 14 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 fertilized. E2 prior to trigger 5200. Decision made to freeze 6 embryos and transfer later due to OHSS.
IVF#1.2/FET #1: estrogen injects start 1/18, FET delayed to try to thicken lining. lining 5.4mm. FET- 2/18- transferred one 3AA expanded blast. BFP 5dp5dt. Beta #1- 2/27 9dp5dt- 102.27 beta #2 3/1: 147 , beta #3 3/4: 268 told to stop meds and let nature take its course. requested 4th beta (3/6); Beta hell for 2 months.
FET # 2: endometrial scratch 5/6, added estrace vaginally and ASA to delestrogen and PIO. June 10- transferred one 4AA hatched embryo, BFP 4dp6dt, Beta 1 (9dp6dt) 187, Beta 2 (11dp6dt): 412; Beta 3 (15dp6dt ): 4452. U/S #1- one beautiful embryo with a heartbeat of 133 at 7 weeks. 8 weeks: heartbeat 156. EDD 2/26/2014: born 2-3-14 induced due to Pre-E and HELLP at 36w5d.
12/1: met with RE to discuss trying for #2