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Endometrial scratch

Just wondering who had this done, and if it worked? Also, when during your cycle was it done? We're planning this since our first ivf cycle failed. They said they can do the scratch in the luteal phase prior to stimming (which is before AF), or at the beginning of stimming (like day 3). My RE says they've had success with both timings. Would like to hear any of your experiences and what you'd recommend. TIA
Married September 5, 2009
TTC #1 since December 2010
DH (33): Perfect
Me (33): All tests normal; Unexplained IF
IUI #1 July 2012 - Chemical :(
IUI #2 - #6 - All BFN
IVF #1 (New RE) March 2014 - Antagonist Protocol - 15R, 6F, transferred 2 5day embies -BFN
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Re: Endometrial scratch

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    I did it prior to stimming and I was successful this round. We did a few things differently this time around so it's hard to say if that is what did the trick or not, but I do recommend giving it a try!

    TTC since 4/12 
    Me: 32, All clear, DH: 34, low count  
    IVF /ICSI: 4/18/13~ OHSS~Freeze-all 
    FET #1  6/28/13 BFN 
     FET #2  7/29/13 BFN
    FET #3  12/16/13 BFN
    *NEW RE*
    IVF/ICSI #2  3/18/14 BFP, twins m/c 9w4d
    IVF/ICSI #3 08/25/14 BFN
    FET #4 10/14 BFN
    IVF/ICSI #4 1/23/14 BFP Twins!
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    shelbeans82shelbeans82 member
    edited April 2014
    I had it done 1 week ago so I can't say if it worked, but for timing it was at the end of my BCP 4 days before starting stims.  Good luck! 

    EDIT:  My RE and all the literature supports doing it prior to the IVF cycle.  I questioned my RE that he was doing so close to stims but I had a period after the BCP ended and he said that the newest literature says that timing is ok.  I have never read anything about doing during stims. 
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    TTC #1 since November 2011
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility, probable endometriosis
    Feb-April 2013: Femara + TI: BFN
    May - September 2013:  Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI#1-4 = BFN
    IVF # 1 November 2013: transferred 1 perfect blast = BFN
    IVF # 2 April 2014: Endo scrape, transferred 2 blasts = BFP!! (first ever!), CP
    FET #1 June 2014: transferred 2 blasts = BFFN
    New Dx: Repeat Implantation Failure
     IVF # 3 November 2014 = BFP!!  Beta #1 9dp5t 272  Beta # 2 11dp5dt 626
    It's Twins! 
    *everyone welcome*
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    cls78cls78 member
    I will be getting this done 8 days after ER. Does it hurt?
    TTC since May/June 2012 
    Sept 2013 testing:
    SA #1 Low motility (17%) 
    SA #2 Lower sperm count, but much higher motility
    CD 3 Bloodwork and ultrasound - Normal HSG - Clear tubes 
    Oct/Nov 2013 Cycle 1 with RE 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI BFN  
    Nov/Dec 2013 Cycle 2 with RE 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI BFN 
    Jan/Feb 2014 Cycle 3 with RE 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI BFN 
    2/20/14 Follow up consult RE recommends IVF with ICSI 
    3/10/14 New patient consult with RMA NJ 
    3/11/14 AMH and other Bloodwork to prep for IVF with ICSI at RMA NJ
    3/28/14 Saline Sonogram - All good
    March/April 2014 IVF #1 Antagonist Protocol
    BCP/Bravelle/Menopur/Ganirelix
    4/16/14 ER 26 Retrieved!!!
    4/17/14 Fert Report 22 Mature 21 Fertilized w/ ICSI
    4/22/14 Report #2 15 BLASTS
    5/24/14 FET!!!  (Transferring 2 snowflakes)
    6/2/14 Beta #1 575!!! :)
    6/4/14 Beta #2 2060!!! :)
    6/11/14 1st Ultrasound...Saw 2 Gestational Sacs!!  Beta #3 34,312!!! 
    6/18/14 2nd Ultrasound...Heartbeats!! Baby A 112bpm Baby B 117bmp <3 Beta #4 172,080!!!
    6/25/14 3rd Ultrasound...Heartbeats!! Baby A 150bpm Baby B 158bpm <3 Beta #5 232,134!!! 
    7/3/14 4th Ultrasound...Heartbeats!! Baby A 173bpm Baby B 162bpm <3 Beta #6 269,228!!!
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    @cls78 It wasn't that bad, but I took a hefty dose of tylenol first.  It was short lived and less painful than my HSG.
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    TTC #1 since November 2011
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility, probable endometriosis
    Feb-April 2013: Femara + TI: BFN
    May - September 2013:  Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI#1-4 = BFN
    IVF # 1 November 2013: transferred 1 perfect blast = BFN
    IVF # 2 April 2014: Endo scrape, transferred 2 blasts = BFP!! (first ever!), CP
    FET #1 June 2014: transferred 2 blasts = BFFN
    New Dx: Repeat Implantation Failure
     IVF # 3 November 2014 = BFP!!  Beta #1 9dp5t 272  Beta # 2 11dp5dt 626
    It's Twins! 
    *everyone welcome*
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    It hurts but it's quick. The painful part for me was over in less than 10 seconds. You can do it!

    TTC since 4/12 
    Me: 32, All clear, DH: 34, low count  
    IVF /ICSI: 4/18/13~ OHSS~Freeze-all 
    FET #1  6/28/13 BFN 
     FET #2  7/29/13 BFN
    FET #3  12/16/13 BFN
    *NEW RE*
    IVF/ICSI #2  3/18/14 BFP, twins m/c 9w4d
    IVF/ICSI #3 08/25/14 BFN
    FET #4 10/14 BFN
    IVF/ICSI #4 1/23/14 BFP Twins!
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    janet1206janet1206 member
    edited April 2014
    Thanks ladies for all your input. I just got off the phone with the PA at my REs office. She said there's no evidence related to which timing is better. But that's kinda hard to believe. I know most of the research talks about it being done the cycle prior to ivf. She says there's no harm doing it during stims, and they've had success w it before. They're advising us to do it at the beginning of stims bc there would be no chance of disrupting a preg then. They want us to try on our own the month before, bc we are unexplained and there's still a possibility we may conceive naturally..and doing it in the luteal phase would be harmful if I were preg. After some thought we are planning to take a month off and start stims in June, but we will still try on our own in April. If we aren't preg next month, I think I will just go w my gut feeling and do the scratch during my luteal phase prior to stims.
    Married September 5, 2009
    TTC #1 since December 2010
    DH (33): Perfect
    Me (33): All tests normal; Unexplained IF
    IUI #1 July 2012 - Chemical :(
    IUI #2 - #6 - All BFN
    IVF #1 (New RE) March 2014 - Antagonist Protocol - 15R, 6F, transferred 2 5day embies -BFN
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    I did it for our second FET about a month prior to transfer and we were successful. It hurts for 30 seconds. They scratch 4 times quickly (once in each quadrant). My RE counted 1-2-3-4 and it was over. GL!

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    Married June 2011 Dx: anovulatory due to prolactinoma (1.5cmx 1.5cm in 2006)
    April 2012: MRI- questionable cyst 8mg by 12mm in pituitary ; referred to RE by Ob-gyn after amenorrhea x 4+ months, provera ineffective, low estrogen level
    cycle 1: May 2012, clomid 50mg; cycle cancelled, thin lining, no response
    cycle 2: June 2012, femara 5mg; cycle cancelled, no response
    cycle 3: July 2012, femara 7.5mg; cycle cancelled (largest folli on Cd12 & cd 16: 11, lining 4)
    Repeat MRI July 25,2012- Cyst unchanged, likely old infarction.
    Aug. 8: met with RE, move to injectables if HSG and SA normal
    Aug. 23: HSG all clear; DH- perfect
    Switched to a new RE in early Sept. IVF here we come
    Genetic testing reveals: Fragile X- Intermediate risk/grey zone.
    IVF#1: ER 11/30: 14 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 fertilized. E2 prior to trigger 5200. Decision made to freeze 6 embryos and transfer later due to OHSS.
    IVF#1.2/FET #1: estrogen injects start 1/18, FET delayed to try to thicken lining. lining 5.4mm. FET- 2/18- transferred one 3AA expanded blast. BFP 5dp5dt. Beta #1- 2/27 9dp5dt- 102.27 beta #2 3/1: 147 :(, beta #3 3/4: 268 told to stop meds and let nature take its course. requested 4th beta (3/6); Beta hell for 2 months.

    FET # 2: endometrial scratch 5/6, added estrace vaginally and ASA to delestrogen and PIO. June 10- transferred one 4AA hatched embryo, BFP 4dp6dt, Beta 1 (9dp6dt) 187, Beta 2 (11dp6dt): 412; Beta 3 (15dp6dt ): 4452. U/S #1- one beautiful embryo with a heartbeat of 133 at 7 weeks.  8 weeks: heartbeat 156. EDD 2/26/2014: born 2-3-14 induced due to Pre-E and HELLP at 36w5d.

    12/1: met with RE to discuss trying for #2


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