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February 2014 Moms
dunvilles
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Thoughts on this... RE "normal" birth
dunvilles
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I saw this on my FB news feed a few minutes ago. A friend "liked" it and I do not know the OP. There are so many things that I want to say to this person, mainly that my two sons would not be alive if it wasn't for modern medicine and my wonderful doctors... but anyway... thoughts?
"Birth is a normal function of EVERY female's biology. Like all other mammals our bodies have the ability to bring our babies into this world safely and normally. Why does society believe that we are any different than all other mammals in laboring and birthing? Why do human mothers get treated so poorly in labor and birth (and I would argue every other aspect of reproductive health) when we would never do the same to other mammals? Why do we think a chimp/cat/ferret/elephant/etc can birth and nourish and care for her babies but we can not? If we did cervical checks, electronic fetal monitoring, restricted access to food and water, restricted movement and invited strangers in to observe and touch a laboring cat, dog, elephant, giraffe, bear, you name it...it would disrupt the process of that mother's labor and put both her AND her baby(ies) at risk! WE ARE MAMMALS! Wake up! Obstetricians do not KNOW about NORMAL birth. They apply the same ROUTINE interventions to all women in their care and play clean up when *those interventions precipitate complications.* They are extremely skilled and valuable for the treatment of pathology: abnormal labors and births...they do NOT have the skill or understanding for caring for a mother having a NORMAL birth. Reclaim your births! Protect yourself and your baby, learn the beautiful and joyful truth about how normal birth is!"
"Birth is a normal function of EVERY female's biology. Like all other mammals our bodies have the ability to bring our babies into this world safely and normally. Why does society believe that we are any different than all other mammals in laboring and birthing? Why do human mothers get treated so poorly in labor and birth (and I would argue every other aspect of reproductive health) when we would never do the same to other mammals? Why do we think a chimp/cat/ferret/elephant/etc can birth and nourish and care for her babies but we can not? If we did cervical checks, electronic fetal monitoring, restricted access to food and water, restricted movement and invited strangers in to observe and touch a laboring cat, dog, elephant, giraffe, bear, you name it...it would disrupt the process of that mother's labor and put both her AND her baby(ies) at risk! WE ARE MAMMALS! Wake up! Obstetricians do not KNOW about NORMAL birth. They apply the same ROUTINE interventions to all women in their care and play clean up when *those interventions precipitate complications.* They are extremely skilled and valuable for the treatment of pathology: abnormal labors and births...they do NOT have the skill or understanding for caring for a mother having a NORMAL birth. Reclaim your births! Protect yourself and your baby, learn the beautiful and joyful truth about how normal birth is!"
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Re: Thoughts on this... RE "normal" birth
Baby #1 - Future Big Brother - 4 Years Old
I agree with wanting better odds!
Both my boys would have been born at 29 weeks w/o intervention and my 2nd wouldn't be here without fertility treatments.
I think people who judge how others give birth pretty much suck.
I hope she means "ideal birth". C-sections aren't ideal, but I'm thankful for them (I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for my mom getting a section)!
J. Jackson
Feb '14 March Siggy Challenge: Face Slaps
Better living through science, lady. Just this....
There was a elephant baby that died during labor as his mothers uterus positioning was not right while giving birth. This was in a controlled elephant orphanage and by the time they realized what was happening it was too late. I also once saw a wilderbeast give birth but there was something wrong with the calf and it would not stand up no matter how much the mother licked it and tired to move it. It just was not breathing right. The mother had no choice but to let it die as it could not walk. Would a medical intervention like oxygen or vet supported birth save the calf- Absolutely!
Just becasue you dont witness it everyday does not mean everything is nature is smooth. The chances of surival for babies for all mammals in the wild are meek. Forget predators, even a small wound completely delibitates the animals. If she thinks human life is not worth saving then of course she can continue to advocate for the so called natural birth. Dumb ass!!
No baby's life is worth risking for the 'totally natural' experience. That is ridiculous.
dx PCOS 2007
BFP #1 (natural) 12/23/2010. Stillbirth due to IC 4/2/2011
TTC #2 starting 03/2012
RE starting 07/2012
05/2013 BFP on a Letrozole (Femara)/trigger!
Cerclage, Procardia, Makena, GD (with insulin), MBR, and we made it!
Our Angel was born sleeping at 20 weeks due to IC.
I'll take my (mostly) smooth, medically assisted births any day, TYVM.
I hate people who think like that. We have access to medicine, why wouldn't we use it to make sure out babies are healthy and us too?
Dumb.
I was in labor for 36 hours... then I pushed for 3 hours. LO's head got stuck hard in my pelvis. If I hadn't been at a hospital where I had access to good medical care to get to caesarian that I needed, it is likely that I and/or LO would not have survived.
Yay for science and medicine!