Does LO still wake in the MOTN?

BPer · March 2014

I feel like this can't be "typical" of an almost 18 month old. Hannah still wakes 2x per night 3-4 days a week.

I almost always go in at first. I feel like their must be a "reason". Like she didn't eat well at dinner, she ate something that may be making her gassy, she may have pooped, she may be congested (she's basically been sick with something or other for months). But even after I check to make sure everything is okay, she will cry for 30-60 minutes before finally passing out from exhaustion.

And honestly, it's getting worse. She used to be a great sleeper, and now it's really hit or miss. I am dreading being up every 2 hours with a newborn, and again with my shitty-sleeping toddler.

Do any of your LOs still wake this consistently? Am I making it worse by checking on her in the first place? Should I just not go in at all?

redneckmomma25 · March 2014

It's been a year. I've been up to her room 2x in the middle of the night in the last year. Once for puke. And once was a mistake and I shouldn't have.

watercolor5 · March 2014

Sophia doesn't usually wake at night unless she is sick. If she does, I don't go in right away, but wait to see if she can get back to sleep on her own. If the crying/fussing persists for more than 20 min, I'll probably go in and make sure there's no poop/vomit/reason. (I'd also go in and check on her right away if the crying sounds different/urgent.)

I kind of just use my judgement and do whatever I think will help her get to sleep the fastest. If the norm for going in and checking on her means 30min-an hour of continued crying to get back to sleep, then I wait if I think she'll get to sleep on her own in less than 30 min, if that makes sense.

What method did you use to sleep train Hannah in the first place? I'd probably try to be consistent and treat night wakeups the same way you would treat having trouble getting to sleep in the first place. For us, it was CIO with longer and longer check-in intervals, so I'd use that again.

Flamingemu · March 2014

Once L started sttn at 13 mos, I rarely am in her room at night. I never 'check' at the first cry. I ignore it and wait. I let her sort it out for 10 minutes or so first. Only if her crying elevates or she is sick do I go in there.

Bookelly · March 2014

Flamingemu said:

Once L started sttn at 13 mos, I rarely am in her room at night. I never 'check' at the first cry. I ignore it and wait. I let her sort it out for 10 minutes or so first. Only if her crying elevates or she is sick do I go in there.
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This is us, down to the length of time it took to get her STTN in the first place. We did Ferber at six months, then slowly phased out night feeds. Luckily, she has only woken a handful of times since then, usually bc of teething. DH always goes in first (I'll give him a loaded Tylenol syringe), since she's less likely to overreact for him.

Pokedot · March 2014

DS doesn't wake up in the MOTN. He hasn't in about a year. We sleep trained at 6 months and he's been STTN since. He'll wake up but put himself back to sleep. I haven't been in his room in the MOTN since. In the morning he moves around a lot and he talks in his sleep a ton but it's never something he won't bounce back from and go back to sleep from.

ETA: When he does cry out I'll wait about 10 minutes to let him sort it out by himself. He always has.

ellebee2 · March 2014

S wakes once per night about 2-3x per week. The other nights she sttn.

I usually give her about 20 minutes to see if she can work it out, and then will go in and change diaper/offer snuggles/etc and back in the crib. When we did CIO way back when, we found that she did best with less intervention and the same holds true. She gets much more worked up/takes her longer to get back to sleep if we go in.

Good luck. Being exhausted sucks.

willy_gert · March 2014

I would suggest sleep training at this point like others have suggested and do it for MOTN wake ups too. Luci started waking in the night about three or four months ago again and it was hell. She almost always ended up in bed with us. So, we sleep trained again and things have been going much better. This past weekend she woke up three nights in a row for three hours, but I figured out she was just having growing pains.

I would say, based on what you said, I would let her CIO a little bit and if she doesn't self soothe within like 10 minutes I would go check on her for poop, vomit, a reason and then just make it longer and longer between each check in.

I hope she starts sleeping better for you!

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BPer · March 2014

watercolor5 said:

Sophia doesn't usually wake at night unless she is sick. If she does, I don't go in right away, but wait to see if she can get back to sleep on her own. If the crying/fussing persists for more than 20 min, I'll probably go in and make sure there's no poop/vomit/reason. (I'd also go in and check on her right away if the crying sounds different/urgent.)

I kind of just use my judgement and do whatever I think will help her get to sleep the fastest. If the norm for going in and checking on her means 30min-an hour of continued crying to get back to sleep, then I wait if I think she'll get to sleep on her own in less than 30 min, if that makes sense.

What method did you use to sleep train Hannah in the first place? I'd probably try to be consistent and treat night wakeups the same way you would treat having trouble getting to sleep in the first place. For us, it was CIO with longer and longer check-in intervals, so I'd use that again.

We never really had to sleep train, because she started STTN by 4 months, I'd say.

Once we took the paci away, 2-3 months ago, she would cry for a few minutes, and we would just let her CIO until she fell asleep.

I think because she's been sick so often lately, I have felt like I need to check on her. One night I didn't, and she basically slept in diarrhea for 4 hours, and I felt like a huge asshole. Now I think she has just gotten used to me going in there.

hmp1 · March 2014

Leo usually sttn. If he is going through a growth or developmental spurt or is sick, he will wake. Because James is such a crappy sleeper right now, we run to Leo's room when he cries so he won't wake James (in the middle of the night). We have a bed in Leo's room so DH will usually just lay in bed with him and sleep.

AKB090609 · March 2014

DD will wake, but she puts herself back to sleep. We wait at least 15 min of freak out crying before we go in. DD has not had a BM at night or nap for well over a year, so I don't have that as a worry.

AlinnJo · March 2014

3 times. Quinn has slept through the night 3 times in her entire life. We are working on night weaning as we speak.

It's SO HARD to decide what to do. Are they sick? Teething? Did they poop? Are they cold? Hot? So many questions go through my head. And then I tell myself she's just a tiny little toddler who might just need some snuggles. Who am I to deny my poor sweet baby that?

But then I also realize she needs to learn how to be a good sleeper and honestly, I'm a better mom when I've gotten sleep. I'm having a real hard time finding a happy medium between the two. Go with your gut and do what feels right. Sleep training might be the way to go, or it may just be a phase that you need to get through. I'm right there with ya!

jenndub · March 2014

Sawyer still doesn't STTN. She wakes up 2-4 times a night. I recently weaned her and she's been sleeping for longer stretches. When she starts fussing I just pick her up and snuggle her until she falls back asleep. Sometimes I bring her into my bed. I did the same thing with my older two. They have no issues going to sleep and staying asleep on their own. I am a crazy mom that will snuggle the shit out of my kids until they won't allow it anymore.

cmarie520 · March 2014

DS wakes occasionally if he is coughing or congested. I usually let him cry it out and 9 times out of 10 he has fallen back asleep pretty quickly. When he was getting his molars twice he needed Tylenol in the MOTN. I don't rush to go to him because he has a very hard time falling back to sleep if he has any interaction from us.

watercolor5 · March 2014

BPer said:

watercolor5 said:

We never really had to sleep train, because she started STTN by 4 months, I'd say.

Once we took the paci away, 2-3 months ago, she would cry for a few minutes, and we would just let her CIO until she fell asleep.

I think because she's been sick so often lately, I have felt like I need to check on her. One night I didn't, and she basically slept in diarrhea for 4 hours, and I felt like a huge asshole. Now I think she has just gotten used to me going in there.

Sickness is the worst...sometimes it feels like they'll never be well. Sounds like CIO might help once she's feeling good, and when she learns to put herself back to sleep, hopefully you'll be good to go!

Hyaline · March 2014

I would try not going in at first cry. I have a five minute rule--I wait five minutes after the first cry and re-evaluate. 95% of the time she's fallen back asleep or is fussing herself down. If I were to go in, she would be full on awake and refusing to go back down without me. And sometimes those cries are intense--for about fifteen seconds, lol. She might surprise you and settle back down to sleep if you don't interact with her--worth a shot?

If it helps, set a timer on your phone when you hear her for 5-10 minutes. Hopefully you will start being re-awoken by the timer, not her

linzeek44 · March 2014

Eh, we're up half the nights of the week. But that's such an improvement. He wasn't one of the babies who slept through the night or anything.

His wake ups are angry panicky cries. DH or I go in there (usually DH since I did the first 15m). DH sits in the chair in E's room and E will lie back down and go to sleep.

klgrh6 · March 2014

DD wakes up once a night 3-4 times a week. She's usually up for 20-30 minutes. We give her a diaper change, a little milk or water to drink depending on how well she ate at dinner, if we can tell her teeth are bugging her we give her teething tablets, snuggle a bit thwn put her right back in bed.

We try to let her CIO a bit but we live in an apartment with paper thin walls. I always worry she'll wake the neighbor's kids. CIO at 8pm no big deal CIO at 3am I just feel bad.

Kissty · March 2014

DS has just started STTN, within the last 3 weeks. So it will happen. We never sleep trained either. He was doing well and STTN for about a month at 13 mos. But after that it was crazy and he ended up sleeping with one of us most nights. One night he slept through (it was glorious BTW) and since then he's woken up twice, but went right back to sleep once he found his binky.

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