antibodies WWJ13D?

Re: antibodies WWJ13D?

• PinkPuffyHeart2 member

  March 2014

  I don't know the answer but my thought is that the antibodies are there as long as you have the illness. I read some on it when I was sick, and it said how your body will even react to the saliva from your baby and blah blah, can't remember, but it was crazy. Anyway, do whatever feels right to you. Me personally, I would pump for the antibodies. But that's just me!

   

   

  

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• WasNotWas member

  March 2014

  I vote stop pumping. I don't know the science behind it but I EP'd with DS1 for 7.5 months and I swear I never passed any antibodies because he was always sick, but I nurse Ty and he has never been sick (knock on MFing wood). I think your question is very interesting and my unresearched answer would be they don't stay very long.

  

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• cafecreme member

  March 2014

  I don't see the harm of pumping for a few more days? Maybe cut her completely off by the end of the weekend? It might make a small difference, but that last 9 months you've been giving her antibodies. IDK, just a thought. 

  
  

  not related, but has she fit into the sleeper I sent you yet? 

  
  

   
  

  
  

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• musicalsilver member

  March 2014

  I don't have any perspective on the pumping side of things - but other PPs have covered that.

  
  

  I just have a more immunological perspective ;-)

  
  

  The peak antibody response is about 7-10 days after infection - so a "couple" days might not be sufficient.  An antibody response can be seen as early as 3 days, but it's not much of one.  The antibody producing-plasma cells also need time to class-switch to the type of antibody (from IgM to IgA) that's secreted in breast milk.

  
  

  So if you really want to provide the "best" antibodies, you'd have to wait further out than a couple days.

  
  

  I tried a pubmed search for antibodies in breast milk, but it was pretty unhelpful.  I don't know that there's been a lot of research done on acute infections and antibody transfer in breast milk (most of it is in chronic infections and related to vaccination).

  
  

  My kind of educated guess is that it is going to be something that's transient.  If it's in *your* system fighting whatever virus you have, it'll be in your breast milk.  After the peak of response at 10-14 days, the plasma cells are going to die off/migrate to the bone marrow to become long-lived plasma cells, and not produce all that many antibodies anymore.   

  
  

  Hope that at least lets you know a little bit about what's going on!

  
  DS born 6/2013
  

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• kelly422 member

  March 2014 edited March 2014

  @Beary+Ghastly said:

  
  

  
  

  not related, but has she fit into the sleeper I sent you yet? 

  She's still too short, haha - maybe in a few more weeks! At least she'll get some good use out of it! 

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• kelly422 member

  March 2014

  @musicalsilver said:

  I don't have any perspective on the pumping side of things - but other PPs have covered that.

  
  

  I just have a more immunological perspective ;-)

  
  

  The peak antibody response is about 7-10 days after infection - so a "couple" days might not be sufficient.  An antibody response can be seen as early as 3 days, but it's not much of one.  The antibody producing-plasma cells also need time to class-switch to the type of antibody (from IgM to IgA) that's secreted in breast milk.

  
  

  So if you really want to provide the "best" antibodies, you'd have to wait further out than a couple days.

  
  

  I tried a pubmed search for antibodies in breast milk, but it was pretty unhelpful.  I don't know that there's been a lot of research done on acute infections and antibody transfer in breast milk (most of it is in chronic infections and related to vaccination).

  
  

  My kind of educated guess is that it is going to be something that's transient.  If it's in *your* system fighting whatever virus you have, it'll be in your breast milk.  After the peak of response at 10-14 days, the plasma cells are going to die off/migrate to the bone marrow to become long-lived plasma cells, and not produce all that many antibodies anymore.   

  
  

  Hope that at least lets you know a little bit about what's going on!

  That's TOTALLY what I was looking for!  I just googled it, I didn't as fancy as Pubmed. Thank you though - I purposely forgot all that stuff from my Immuno class because it was confusing to me  I wish I knew the incubation period of whatever I had so I know if J "escaped" it! 

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• momofcatan member

  March 2014

  I have not read all the words, but I will say just step away from the pump Kelly. Its OK.

  
  

  
  

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