I honestly think he's just a dumb ass with little to zero intelligence. The dude doesn't have a clue.
They definitely had sex in the ocean, IMO. I can't even figure out what Nikki is thinking. She seems super insecure, and that surprises me. I'm seriously shocked she stuck around.
I've known a few bitches who were gorgeous and incredibly insecure. I agree she seems that way. But props to her if she likes him and is feeling like -fuck errhybody. They seem like a good match, ha.
He knows how to be polite. He had issues with the show. He never would have interrupted Chris like that in the beginning. He's done playing the game. I also think he's a jerk.
And I agree on the sex. I thought that from the start bc they looked like me and DH on our honeymoon, ha! His overreaction to her wasn't over making out, and now that it is kind of confirmed that they did... SHAME on him for putting that on her. He tried to make it seem like she was a bad example. I almost feel like she put the shades on and kept moving forward to justify it, maybe, not that she needed to? I'm sure she felt yucky after he put that on her. It's almost...demeaning? I bet they also had sex in the fantasy suite. Wait, or is that when it happened for the first time?
Anyone think he had sex with Nikki in the fantasy suite? She seemed pretty confident.
I agree that he seemed fed up with the show and wants to move forward. He's said some stupid stuff in the past few months and I wonder if he felt like the show left him twisting in the wind.
I also thinks its fine that he didn't want to tell Chris/America how he feels about Nikki. I think what she said about if they didn't want to be together they wouldn't is true. I agree that Chris looked like a jerk to keep pushing it.
I didn't care for Nikki much, but if they're happy, great!
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I think he can say he didn't watch the show before and didn't understand how it all worked, including last nights ATFR, but he isn't so dumb as to think they were going to pay him to do this show and then let him go back to living privately the day after the finale. Yeah, I'm sure the producers have been hounding him and probably pushy with their own agendas, but he signed on for this.
The finale and the ATFR was so awkward. His family basically telling both women to re-think this thing with him, his blunt rejection of Clare when she thought she might get a proposal, etc.
If he and Nikki are together a month from now I would be shocked.
Well considering he said "I love to fuck you" I'm thinking they had sex in the ocean and/or in the fantasy suite. What an asshole. He is just completely clueless and one of the dumbest (re: unintelligent) men I've ever seen.
He didn't take this seriously at all. And I totally think he didn't propose so he could keep the ring. (Can they keep it??) Even when he talked to Nikki as he gave her the final rose he said nothing personal about why he "liked her a lot." I can't believe she fell for it.
Also the ATFR was so awkward. He was an asshole to Chris Harrison and Nikki looked so uncomfortable up there. When they break up in a day or two, she's going to look back at that and say "what the hell was I thinking!?!" Or at least I hope she does. I mean she's an intelligent girl.
I don't know what to think in some ways he came across as a total as# but, at the same time I kind of respect the idea that he met someone he genuinely likes and wants to date her and let things develop the way they would in a normal relationship. A lot of people don't tell someone they love them in the first 4 months of dating. I never like Clare and she knows how the show works someone is always told they aren't the one at the end I don't see why she wasn't even contemplating that at the end it's always a possibility you won't get the final rose. There would never be a finale' if every Bachelor let someone go the night before the last episode.
He didn't take this seriously at all. And I totally think he didn't propose so he could keep the ring. (Can they keep it??) Even when he talked to Nikki as he gave her the final rose he said nothing personal about why he "liked her a lot." I can't believe she fell for it.
I just read an article that said the producers take the ring if you don't propose on the final episode, but they will give it back if you decide to propose at a later time, e.g. at the ATFR.
I guess I feel like his family was trying to be realistic... Not warn them, or scare/deter them. Kind of a full disclosure. There is a kid involved.
I'm sure the producers knew what angle they wanted to pursue before they widdled 500 hours down to 20. And it was entertaining. Considering the way the media can twist a 10-15 minute phone or on-camera interview in my industry, you couldn't pay me to give them 500 hours of leeway. I know there are some PR ladies on here who would agree! If I did, I would be so nice and charming to everyone involved. They have the power. Play the game to preserve how you come off.
I agree that Clare should have understood how the show works, and that a possibility was being let go. I also think that I'm a shoe in if he f'd me in the suite. LOL if that happened in the fantasy suite and he still brought it up with Andi the next day. Ew!
When the cameras went off and he leaned in to whisper in her ear... I would be expecting him to say things he can't say on camera- like I love you, you're the one, or I'm crazy about you. I'm not sure you throw the 'good fuck' line at someone who isn't a fun fuck buddy or someone you're in a solid relationship with and know well enough to have a kinky play side with.
I bet the whole thing will cause rifts with his family. Definitely embarrassment. I wonder if he's really as great of a dad as he portrays. Sounds like he puts himself first and his family has picked up the slack.
I'm in the process of watching last night's episode, but I wanted to say I totally agree with above.
I love watching the Bachelor/ette, but this season was soooo hard for me. I really only stuck it out because I felt I should see it to fruition. I found him to be so annoying and disrespectful, and I honestly couldn't take him seriously as a good parent after episode one when his daughter was shown in her car seat. His baby talk and kissy noises make me want to gag, and his excuse for english being his second language got old so fast.
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So did he and Claire have sex in the ocean? I wonder what Nikki thought of that.
Nikki looks like a sad case
I'm just being honest. It's ok.
They definitely had sex in the ocean, IMO. I can't even figure out what Nikki is thinking. She seems super insecure, and that surprises me. I'm seriously shocked she stuck around.
ATFR was hard to watch.
He knows how to be polite. He had issues with the show. He never would have interrupted Chris like that in the beginning. He's done playing the game. I also think he's a jerk.
And I agree on the sex. I thought that from the start bc they looked like me and DH on our honeymoon, ha! His overreaction to her wasn't over making out, and now that it is kind of confirmed that they did... SHAME on him for putting that on her. He tried to make it seem like she was a bad example. I almost feel like she put the shades on and kept moving forward to justify it, maybe, not that she needed to? I'm sure she felt yucky after he put that on her. It's almost...demeaning? I bet they also had sex in the fantasy suite. Wait, or is that when it happened for the first time?
Anyone think he had sex with Nikki in the fantasy suite? She seemed pretty confident.
The finale and the ATFR was so awkward. His family basically telling both women to re-think this thing with him, his blunt rejection of Clare when she thought she might get a proposal, etc.
If he and Nikki are together a month from now I would be shocked.
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I'm sure the producers knew what angle they wanted to pursue before they widdled 500 hours down to 20. And it was entertaining. Considering the way the media can twist a 10-15 minute phone or on-camera interview in my industry, you couldn't pay me to give them 500 hours of leeway. I know there are some PR ladies on here who would agree! If I did, I would be so nice and charming to everyone involved. They have the power. Play the game to preserve how you come off.
I agree that Clare should have understood how the show works, and that a possibility was being let go. I also think that I'm a shoe in if he f'd me in the suite. LOL if that happened in the fantasy suite and he still brought it up with Andi the next day. Ew!
When the cameras went off and he leaned in to whisper in her ear... I would be expecting him to say things he can't say on camera- like I love you, you're the one, or I'm crazy about you. I'm not sure you throw the 'good fuck' line at someone who isn't a fun fuck buddy or someone you're in a solid relationship with and know well enough to have a kinky play side with.