March 2014 Moms

I need some advice. (Vent and question)

I apologize for the long post, but the explanation is necessary, I think, to understand why I'm so upset over it. :P Thanks for reading, whether you have advice for me or not.

I need some advice ladies, because I am at my wit's end. MH and I are moving into a family friend's house because 1. She needs help making her mortgage and utility bills and 2. We need a cheap place to stay while I am on (unpaid) mat leave.

For the last two weeks (a little over, I think), I have been going over to the house from our apartment to clean it up and bring the general state of things up to a normal human being's standard of living. This woman is 20 years my senior, with fibromyalgia and I don't know what other health problems, so by no means do I expect her to jump up to offer help every time I go over, nor do I expect her to go on a cleaning spree when I'm not there. I get it, and I accept it.

What I do not accept is that over the course of seven or so years, she managed to accumulate a layer of dust so thick MH couldn't walk trough the house without having a sneezing attack. Her things have zero rhyme or reason to where they are sitting, with zero organizational logic whatsoever. Half the time she has no idea where to even begin looking for things. At least, that was before I started cleaning over there.

Every time I go over now, all she does is bitch and moan about how her life is being turned upside down, and it's not fair to her that her things are going into boxes and being organized, and things she doesn't need are being thrown away or put into the basement where she can access them easily if she needs them in the future.

When she's not bitching about all that, she's giving me condescending, rude "instructions" for how things should be done. "This should go there", "Don't throw that away I need it", "Watch the maids like a hawk because I have valuables and someone could walk off with them."

1. You should have done this YEARS AGO.

2. If you need it, why was it stuffed between a stuffed animal and this hope chest? It's a medical document! It should have gone straight into a file, dummy!

3. No one wants your things, you packratting idiot. The maids are not going to walk off with your dime store "china".

She texted me at 12:36 am to demand I tell her where I hid her chewable aspirin. -_- Woman, first of all, I do not have a photographic memory. Secondly, at about 9 every night, I am useless in the memory department every night, and you want me to remember where I "hid" something from you? What are you, twelve?!?!?!

My question is this: do you think I am being unreasonable expecting her to make an effort to make sure the cleaning I am doing was not in vain, and pick up after herself when I'm not there? Do you think I'm being too harsh on her for acting this way? And lastly, should I be giving her more wiggle room when it comes to how much work I want her to put into keeping the place looking like a human home instead of a rat's nest?

Any advice is welcome, ladies; I have no idea how to make this situation work, and because of my LO being due so soon, we really need it to work. :/
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March 26th, 2014
9:38am CST
7 lbs 0.8 oz
19.75" long

Re: I need some advice. (Vent and question)

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  • It sounds like an annoying situation, and I get that you need a more affordable place to stay...but you are choosing to stay there.  Sure she should clean more than once every 7 years, but I'd be a little offended if someone chose to come stay with me, but critisized how my house was and made requests for things that need to be changed. 

    I guess in short, you need to decide if you can live there or not.  If it's not up to your standards, then some other arrangement needs to be found. 

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  • We did discuss everything that was going to be done before I ever started. Before I even agreed to stay there, we had a looooong talk about the cleaning and she agreed to let what needed to be done get done. We were very straightforward and direct about it all, and I made sure to run everything I've done by her before doing it, because I would be disturbed too if all my things were suddenly in a different place.

    I don't move her medicines, I would never dream of trying to make life more difficult for her because she is being a huge help by letting us move in. The part that bothers me though is that she can't find one second to say "Thanks for helping me out, even if it's benefitting you too." All she can do is complain.

    I haven't said anything to her about how upset it makes me when she does it, and I have been as polite and accommodating as possible when she is bothered by something we've done to help clean and organize, because I appreciate having a place to stay. When we were still in the discussion all stage, I told her that if she wanted it, I would find ways to make sure she could easily keep the house organized and clean even after we moved out. I have done so, and have never made a change without running it by her first. I'm not insane, that would be rude.

    She's known for years that her house needed some TLC and attention, and has even paid me to come and clean on occasion because it gets so bad. Her best friend, my aunt/brain twin, routinely cleans house for her when she's in town. This isn't something new to her, having someone move her things around in the process of cleaning.
    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
    March 26th, 2014
    9:38am CST
    7 lbs 0.8 oz
    19.75" long
  • She doesn't really have maids; my aunt is paying for a one-time-deal with a cleaning service to come and do the scrubbing and dusting that I can't handle with a pre-baby fractured hip that causes me lots of pain if I over exert myself. (And yes, this too was discussed with the roommate.) MH and I moving in with her was conditional on me being allowed to clean the house, and okay-ing everything I do/throw away/organize/etc. with her before I do it. Which I have, because I want this to work. :/ If something looks like it might be important, or special, or even if it doesn't, I set it aside and let her go through it at her own pace. That's why it's taken three weeks to get to the point where she was comfortable letting the cleaning service into the house at all.

    @FarmBoysWife‌ I may or may not have squeaked with sheer grossed out-ness when I read the part about dead things in the laundry... I get what you're saying though. A discussion is definitely necessary at this point, even if it accomplishes nothing except to make MH and I have to find a new place with three weeks to my EDD.
    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
    March 26th, 2014
    9:38am CST
    7 lbs 0.8 oz
    19.75" long
  • I don't see this working.
    My grandmother lived through the depression and shes a hoarder. She cannot part with anything. The idea of parting things seems to panick her.

    I used to go to her house to clean and cook and help in general. Often she accused others of moving, losing and stealing things.

    My point is your story is very familiar to me. It sounds like your very presence is making her panicky, I don't think you have to do anything. Just by being there she's on edge.

    I don't see this working because you need a cleaner space to live and she's not emotionally prepared for this level of change. I'd find another place if possible.
  • DH and I will be moving out as soon as we possibly can, once I am able to help with our finances again. The money is the only reason this is our best option. :/

    I don't communicate very well in person because I get flustered and frustrated if I don't get to say all the things I need to say. So I wrote out a long, courteous, straightforward message to my roommate, and am awaiting her reply. I have a feeling she will still find something to get mad about, but the discussion needs to happen, one way or another. Wish me luck, because I'm already sitting on edge with a bellyache because I despise confrontational discussions...
    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
    March 26th, 2014
    9:38am CST
    7 lbs 0.8 oz
    19.75" long
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