Waking and Sleep Location

sleepy33 · March 2014

I am curious about those who are having 4MW or babies who aren't sleeping long stretches at night and where the babies are sleeping. For the purposes of the poll, let's consider STTN as either completely STTN or just getting up once to eat and going right back to sleep.

Lee81 · March 2014

I put ss. I'm reluctant to put this in writing, but she sstn (#knockingonALLthewood) either in our room or hers depending on how lazy we are being about putting her to bed or just letting her sleep in her rnp. Sometimes she starts fussing around 4:00-5:00 but a binky in her cryhole usually buys us another hour or two.

sleepy33 · March 2014

SS- explain yourself

oops, sorry @Lee81! Should have been more patient.

BlessUrHeart29 · March 2014

I don't think we're still in the 4mw, but this kid typically wakes every 3 hrs to eat. He is in his crib in our room.

DH keeps making weird comments about CIO. It's really unclear what he is trying to get at, and it's really annoying. I guess our friends do CIO with their babies... Well sorry DH but they also let their babies sleep in boppys and with blankets, which are other things I'm not willing to do for a couple more hours of sleep.

Lee81 · March 2014

Sorry! I'm slow a slow mobile typer.

EmJ&B · March 2014

Generally, he's up 4 or 5 times a night to eat . . . eats 5 to 8 mins and goes right back down.

Last night was fairly brutal - he has a bad cough and kept coughing himself awake.

That's actually part of the problem that I cant fix . . . his sleep went to shit when I went back to work and he started daycare. He has had a cough pretty much since day 1 of daycare and it's bad at night. Not sick, not congested . . . just a cough. I've been blaming the 4MW and rolling over (2 nights) but I'm increasingly convinced it's generally the cough. Inclining the PNP has helped. So has putting vicks on a burp rag just above his head.

As for location . . . don't laugh at me, and I shall continue this novel . . . we bought a rehab in January of 2013. It was livable (yay, microwave dinners) and we got pregnant. We got most of the house done but it's big and drafty and the bedrooms (which need new windows) are over the garage - which still need insulation. So we've been "camping out" in the living room (other end of the house) - me and DH on the huge wraparound sofa and DS in the PNP. I'm hoping in another month or so it'll be warm enough to have him in his crib in his room and us across the hall.

I think being in his own room will help.

Ajoyd · March 2014

JarynA said:

I don't think we're still in the 4mw, but this kid typically wakes every 3 hrs to eat. He is in his crib in our room. DH keeps making weird comments about CIO. It's really unclear what he is trying to get at, and it's really annoying. I guess our friends do CIO with their babies... Well sorry DH but they also let their babies sleep in boppys and with blankets, which are other things I'm not willing to do for a couple more hours of sleep.

According to DH ALL OF THE PEOPLE have told him to let LO fuss for a little while before going to get him (which unless it's minor fussing is CIO in my opinion, even if it's just 5-10 minutes). I generally do let him fuss for a minute or two because sometimes he will go back to sleep, but I can tell when he is ramping up and there is no way he will go back to sleep.

Bottom line, you do what I say DH! I could give a shit what other people (including MIL who is a NP and therefore apparently a friggin baby whisperer) have to say about it.

amber0529 · March 2014

His crib is in our room. He wakes constantly all night long. He won't go back to sleep without his bottle even if he's not hungry. Really he'll drink like maybe a 1/2 ounce & pass back out. If I try to give him a pacifier he'll freak the fuck out.

tashad18 · March 2014

RNP in our room. Crib is also in our room but we have yet to do more than nap in the crib.

ballygirl · March 2014

not STTN. They were in their own room, but due to the 4mw, we moved one crib and rnp into our room to avoid one girl waking the other girl. Hoping to move her back if we ever get out of this 4mw hell. So - they start off the night one LO in our room in the crib, one in the nursery in the crib or rnp, but there's really no telling where they wake up. Shit goes down in the MOTN and we all just end up where we end up. I don't even know how I got there half the time. Sometimes the babies rooms get switched after a feeding, or one LO ends up in our bed or sometimes one is in a crib in our room and another in the rnp in our room, or one time we all ended up on the futon in the nursery. Its basically chaos all night long.

sleepy33 · March 2014

ballygirl said:

not STTN. They were in their own room, but due to the 4mw, we moved one crib and rnp into our room to avoid one girl waking the other girl. Hoping to move her back if we ever get out of this 4mw hell. So - they start off the night one LO in our room in the crib, one in the nursery in the crib or rnp, but there's really no telling where they wake up. Shit goes down in the MOTN and we all just end up where we end up. I don't even know how I got there half the time. Sometimes the babies rooms get switched after a feeding, or one LO ends up in our bed or sometimes one is in a crib in our room and another in the rnp in our room, or one time we all ended up on the futon in the nursery. Its basically chaos all night long.

I can't even imagine. I know I wake up the baby even when I'm trying to be quiet, I think I would lose my mind if one woke up the other.

casey820 · March 2014

DH has threatened to let DS CIO. It's a hot topic in our house and I refuse to do it.

I voted for not STTN in his room. He wakes anywhere from 3-6 times lately. He has been congested since he started DC in January so I don't think it's helping. I nurse him before bed but gave a bottle afterwards last night to see if filling him more before bed helped. Well he slept a 4.5 hour stretch which he hasn't done in almost a month. So it very well might be a hunger thing for him.

ETA: most of the time he ends up in the rnp or in bed with me lately. I usually get frustrated around 4 am and pull him out of his room. I get desperate for sleep knowing my toddler will be waking soon.

Chrisanna0508 · March 2014

He is not STTN and was in his crib in his room all night until 2 nights ago when shit hit the fan so he has been ending up in bed with us so we aren't going up the stairs every 30 min.

PharmDMom · March 2014

I voted STTN in his room but with a big caveat. He will STTN (waking once to eat and go right back down) in the RNP.

The crib (which we are trying when we can stand the sleep deprivation) is a whole other ball game. He will wake 10 times in an hour sometimes. He is not rolling, has bad reflux, and isn't too big for the RNP so for now I'm letting him sleep there the most because we all get better rest. I'm dreading the day we have to put him in the crib full time...

asilwhite · March 2014

We're in the middle of the dreaded 4MW, even though he's 5 months now. It started when I went back to work 3 weeks ago. He's up several times a night in our room, sometimes it's to eat, other times it's just to talk to himself at freaking 3am. I couldn't imagine going through this with him in his own room and me getting out of bed many times a night.

Before that he was STTN, sometimes waking up 1x every once in a while to eat. I'm hoping once we get through this he'll start sleeping better again. I can deal with 1x a night, but it's the getting up every couple of hours either to eat or chat that's killing me.

This mama's tired and work is kicking my ass too.

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sweettwilight16 · March 2014

RnP in our room. She used to sleep all night, but since the 4mw she's been waking up once a night. I plan on moving her to her room at 6mo. Not looking forward to it.

Amjoy25 · March 2014

STTN in our room since 3rd week (if we are saying she awakes, eats, and goes back to sleep) #knocksonallthewood

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nbcarlson · March 2014

I'm so tired, I thought the title said "Walking and Sleep Location" I was expecting a poll about sleep walking.

bionicb · March 2014

She sttn 11:40-12:30 til 9-10am. Usually no wake ups. She is in our room in the pack and play, soon to crib. We lazy as fuck.

Eta:
#knockingonallthewood

sleepy33 · March 2014

So the numbers seem to be somewhat bearing out my theory that the majority of the non-STTN babies are still rooming-in.

sleepy33 · March 2014

crunchymama11 said:

sleepy33 said:

So the numbers seem to be somewhat bearing out my theory that the majority of the non-STTN babies are still rooming-in.

i think that is part of the reason rooming in is rec'd for 6 months to redce SIDS- b/c the baby won't get into too deep a sleep that he can't wake from.

Yeah, I think about that a lot, mostly b/c I did move mine out of my room a lot earlier than 6 months. I will say that I watch him a ton on the monitor, and that kid does not sleep deeply for very long. He has very definite sleep cycles and will frequently twitch and move. At least 3-5 times a night he makes sounds, grabs his feet, slams them back down on the mattress, flings his arms around...then I look 5 minutes later and he's flat out. I know for sure we were waking him up when he was sleeping in the room with us because I'd see/hear him move in response to me moving. I dunno. I just know I saw an IMMEDIATE difference when we moved his RNP into his room out of ours, like the very first night we did it he only woke up once during the night.

taylormarie923 · March 2014

LO STTN in his crib. He usually wakes once or twice during the night/early morning, but sleeps a 12 hour stretch total.

EmJ&B · March 2014

sleepy33 said:

So the numbers seem to be somewhat bearing out my theory that the majority of the non-STTN babies are still rooming-in.

Next up is the BF/FF correlation . . .

buckleyk · March 2014

If he's in our room in the bassinet, he'll sleep through the night.

If he's in his crib, his SCREAMING every 45 min - 1 hour.

I've tried everything, including Magic Merlin (which was non- magical)! Apparently he just hates his crib! Sooo fustrating

PixiesDust · March 2014

sleepy33 said:

crunchymama11 said:

sleepy33 said:

So the numbers seem to be somewhat bearing out my theory that the majority of the non-STTN babies are still rooming-in.

i think that is part of the reason rooming in is rec'd for 6 months to redce SIDS- b/c the baby won't get into too deep a sleep that he can't wake from.

Yeah, I think about that a lot, mostly b/c I did move mine out of my room a lot earlier than 6 months. I will say that I watch him a ton on the monitor, and that kid does not sleep deeply for very long. He has very definite sleep cycles and will frequently twitch and move. At least 3-5 times a night he makes sounds, grabs his feet, slams them back down on the mattress, flings his arms around...then I look 5 minutes later and he's flat out. I know for sure we were waking him up when he was sleeping in the room with us because I'd see/hear him move in response to me moving. I dunno. I just know I saw an IMMEDIATE difference when we moved his RNP into his room out of ours, like the very first night we did it he only woke up once during the night.

This is my experience too. LO was waking up a lot at night when she was still in the room with us. We moved her pretty early (like 8 weeks old) because she was moving around the bassinet too much and getting herself stuck. As soon as we moved her she went from waking 2-3 times a night to once, and then about a week later going 11-12 hours straight. We also have not yet experienced the 4MW. Like yours, she frequently flails around in the middle of the night but never truly wakes up. I have the video monitor on and next to my head all night long and almost always hear her and will just watch until she settles back down.

I've also kind of felt that babies who were still waking frequently might be a result of rooming in. I hated feeling like we had to tiptoe around our room when getting ready for bed, waking up to use the bathroom, rolling over, etc. I'm glad she is in her own room -- it's been better for all of us.

Lastly, I also sort of wonder if some folks are reacting too quickly to their baby when they begin to fuss. Someone commented that allowing a baby to fuss was the same as CIO and i completely disagree. Squirming, making little noises, even an occasional squawk, are perfectly normal for a sleeping baby. Crying is completely different, but tending to a baby who isn't actually awake is probably going to wake them up and make them grumpy!

sleepy33 · March 2014

EmJ&B said:

sleepy33 said:

So the numbers seem to be somewhat bearing out my theory that the majority of the non-STTN babies are still rooming-in.

Next up is the BF/FF correlation . . .

Eh. Mine sleeps exactly the same whether I give him a formula bottle to supplement in the evening or just straight boob. Well, actually, not true, if I give him formula in the evening, a lot of times he winds up with a poopy diaper in the early morning hours and so wakes up earlier.

sleepy33 · March 2014

PixiesDust said:

sleepy33 said:

crunchymama11 said:

sleepy33 said:

This is my experience too. LO was waking up a lot at night when she was still in the room with us. We moved her pretty early (like 8 weeks old) because she was moving around the bassinet too much and getting herself stuck. As soon as we moved her she went from waking 2-3 times a night to once, and then about a week later going 11-12 hours straight. We also have not yet experienced the 4MW. Like yours, she frequently flails around in the middle of the night but never truly wakes up. I have the video monitor on and next to my head all night long and almost always hear her and will just watch until she settles back down.

I've also kind of felt that babies who were still waking frequently might be a result of rooming in. I hated feeling like we had to tiptoe around our room when getting ready for bed, waking up to use the bathroom, rolling over, etc. I'm glad she is in her own room -- it's been better for all of us.

Lastly, I also sort of wonder if some folks are reacting too quickly to their baby when they begin to fuss. Someone commented that allowing a baby to fuss was the same as CIO and i completely disagree. Squirming, making little noises, even an occasional squawk, are perfectly normal for a sleeping baby. Crying is completely different, but tending to a baby who isn't actually awake is probably going to wake them up and make them grumpy!

Totally agree with all of this.

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