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FarmingBride
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Naptimes and daycare issues for 9 month old
FarmingBride
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My daughter has been napping from 9-11am and then 1-3pm roughly during the day. She has been doing this at daycare and at home as well. At daycare she has been sleeping upstairs in the gal's bedroom as I know other older children there do not take a morning nap obviously. So she is napping away from all the action and stimulation so she can go down for naps. She has been going to this daycare since 2 months old. My daycare provider and I were just discussing her sleeping this week as she is teething and has been a little cranky. Then my daycare provider told me that my daughters schedule is hard on her other daycare children because everyone else's quiet time is from 11:30 to 1:30pm. I suppose she means the part where 11:30-1:30 is the time that my daughter is typically up as she gets up at 11 and then doesn't go down until 1pm typically and the others are trying to rest during her awake time. I didn't realize that the older children's rest time was at that time. My son is older now and in school and when he was at daycare (a different daycare than the one my daughter is in currently) their older children rest time was after lunch like at 1pm. So that is the background. This is an in-home provider with quite a few kids.
Questions:
I just don't feel that my 9 month old can handle getting just 2 hrs of sleep during the daytime from 11:30 to 1:30pm Am I out in left field on this one? I just don't see how a 8 month old can function on the same amount of sleep that a 3/4 year old gets.
How does your daycare handle naps with younger ones and older ones? And I'm fine with many different perspectives...in home provider, centers.
What should I do?
I didn't realize it was an issue until now. I feel bad if I am being difficult for my provider, but I am trying to find something that will work for us all. I just want my daugher to be well rested. A cranky child from being overtired is not healthy for my daugher, my family or my daycare provider.
Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciate. Thought I'd start here on the working mom's board.
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Re: Naptimes and daycare issues for 9 month old
4hrs of naps at that age is impressive. My DS started DC at a center at 8 months and would only take 2 naps of 30-60mins. Could you possibly work on transitioning your DD to one longer nap, maybe 10-1? You could try putting her to bed earlier at night. Or maybe still 2 naps but shorten the first nap to 9-10 then second nap from 12-2.
I wouldn't want to transition her to one nap until she was ready and I wouldn't push it until closer to 1 year. Her job is to work around your child's schedule not the other way around.
My son is 18 months and only transitioned to one nap at home about 6 weeks ago, which is a bit on the later end. HOWEVER, he did start taking one nap at DC at 12 months when he transitioned to the toddler room. On the weekends he was taking two 2 hour naps.
In the infant room he hardly napped at all, so for us, naps got better the older he got.
Thank you for your thoughts. That is what I am looking for. I don't know what times naps usualyl occur at other places as I have only been exposed to two places. Just wanting a general feel for how these types of things are handled at other places because I know it has to come up obviously with different age groups.
Kids eat lunch at 11am I guess right before rest time. I don't know if any of them actually sleep or not as she has now infomed me, as this as all come to the fore-front, that she plays a movie on the tv while rest time from 11:30 to 1:30pm occurs. But I know she has had other kids maybe age 2 or so rest upstairs. Because when we talked about my daughter sleeping somewhere away from noise/distractions she made the comment, "Oh yes...I have another child that has a special spot upstairs and sleeps there. But I think I might move her back down with the other children soon." So I am thinking that maybe the older children do not do much sleeping downstairs while the movie is playing.
My daughter doesn't always get the 4 hrs of naps. Sometimes it may be 3 hrs or 3 1/2 hrs. But it is always a solid 9-11 (even have to wake her up at 11:15 some days). Then in afternoon usually 1-2,2:30 of 3pm.
Daughter is already going to bed at 7pm. And on days where she doesn't nap very late in the afternoon and then doesn't sleep during her little 3rd nap late afternoon.....she goes down as early as 6pm. So I don't feel I can really push her bedtime any earlier as I would like to see her a little when I get home.
Maybe I do need to work with her nap times a little. I just want to make sure we have time to space out her bottles as well as solid foods as well. So yeah, might have to do some thinking on that. I greatly appreciate you advice and thoughts jf198400
Oh, look at all your other ladies helpful comments while I was replying to the first reply. This is just want I need. A perspective. I do feel like she is annoyed with my daughter's schedule. My son kept is am nap for a very long time as well. I just want my baby to be the guide and I know every child is different and many my daughter will drop her am nap sooner than my son, but I want her to be the guide and not the other way around.....others determining her sleep needs.
I also don't think it's a good situation where the provider is getting zero downtime during the day watching multiple kids. I find it tiring when I'm home with my kids. Now that dd doesn't nap I still make her have quiet time while DS naps b/c I need that time to myself. I would be tired/aggravated/easily frustrated if I had no break all day. so I don't know what the solution is here, but it personally doesn't sound like the best childcare situation.
I'm a DCP and I think her nap time is odd... we nap from 1:00 - 3:00 which in all my experience has been the standard time for a nap. I have heard of napping from 11:30 to 1:30, but never known anyone who used that schedule. I like 1-3 because, in my experience, it matches the afternoon nap needs of most babies. I don't know why she would choose that nap time.
I don't know if you could ask her to move her nap time without annoying her... I think it depends on her personality/reason for using that schedule. Maybe you could plant a seed? Mention that your old DCP had such and such schedule and it worked great because everyone slept at the same time.
I'm curious, did she actually ASK to drop your baby to one nap a day or was it just a comment? Maybe she was exhausted and was venting a little. I sometimes do that with parents I'm really comfortable with. I can't imagine expecting or even wanting a baby to only sleep once a day! Tired babies are no fun!
I appreciate everyone's perspectives on this. To answer sillygirlio's question about if my provider asked me to drop my baby to one nap the answer is no.
How this all came about was for the past few nights my daughter has not be taking her little 30 min. nap later in the afternoon. I assumed she was just growing out of it, but I have still been trying to put her down for it this week, then one late afternoon she went right down. I wondering if something was different that day at daycare. After she woke up after about 40 minutes and was fussy, cranky, and red around the eyes, and just looked rough. Cranky and crying enough I gave her Motrin thinking she might be having teething pain or she wasn't feeling well. She wasn't herself. So the next am at drop off at daycare I wanted to bring this to my daycare providers attention. She wasn't there as she runs her kid to school just a few blocks away and her mom was there helping, so I didn't get a chance to see her face to face and rather and confusing or giving her mom the info I thought I'd just text my provider a little later. So I did about mid morning I sent a text asking how my daughter's mood was that day. I said in fewer words of course, what she had done the night before. I asked my provider how her day previous was if she had a normal day and slept well for her. I said maybe she's tired.
My provider sent back....she been really loud and winey. I lay her down when you want me to but she doesn't sleep. The rash day was bad then a little better the next day then bad again yesterday but she still has been eating everything you send.
I sent back....how long did she sleep yesterday then or did she not sleep at all for you? Cuz a few days she wasn't taking a little nap when we got home and I was having to put her down at 6pm for bed as she was fussy. Give her some Tylenol if you need to to make her comfortable.
Provider said.....ok I will. She was loud except for maybe an hour
I replied......maybe it's a combo. Teeth and rash have bothered her. With rash clearing up hopefully she will get back on. Just keep putting her down from 9 to 11 and 1 to 3 roughly and hopefully she'll fall back into her groove. I will try to get her back on over the weekend.
She then replied with....Ok but your schedule is hard on the rest of my daycare children cuz our quiet time is from 11:30 to 1:30 she wakes another kid up a lot.
Guess I don't know how to interprete that last statement. If she is going to keep doing the 9-11 and 1-3 naps or if she is wanting me to change. I'd prefer to keep my daughter on two naps a day until she decides to change that. How would you take that statement? Just venting or that she is wanting me to do something about it?
I agree with the PP... I wouldn't read anything into that until you have an actual conversation. It's impossible to communicate well without inflection.
It really is possible she was just making a comment. I'm sure a 9month old in the same room with kids who are trying to sleep is causing problems for her... that said, it's not YOUR problem. IMO she is choosing a weird nap schedule for group care. That is her choice I guess.
I would try to consider it just a comment until she says she wants to move her to one nap a day, then I would refuse.
I don't think I'm very picky with respect to DC stuff, but screen time and nap time are at the top of my priority list and those would be deal breakers for me.
I agree. My last daycare provider where my son went (who is now in school) we discussed TV time and we talked about how I felt highly about not having much tv during his day. Studies have shown even TV on in the background can distract from the child's ability to learn even if they are not looking at the TV. My husband had ADD or whatever they call it now when he was younger. I have seen studies that are indicating a connection of increased TV time and ADHD. I don't know how long the studies have been ran or how many children were involved in the study. But I just visited with my past provider when my son was with her and brought it to her attention that with my husband's past and the genetics, that I would like to do everything to minimize the chance of my son or any child of getting ADD/ADHD. And if something as simple as keeping the tv off and having my kid play with something else I am all for it. Don't get me wrong, my son (5 yrs) does watch some tv. I am not saying that. But I use it more for....if he and the baby wake up earlier than usual in the morning and I am still finishing up getting ready in bathroom. I have my daughter in a swing with me in bathroom and my son is watching some tv. Or when I am putting the baby down dad likes to sit down sometimes and watch a program with our son. I do not care for how much TV is being used in this new daycare setting that my daughter is in at a new provider. But I have at least been able to have the provider put my daughter down for naptime upstairs and away from the TV. But yes, as she gets older and is downstairs more I know this will be more of an issue with me as I do not care for TV to be a babysitter IMO. I agree with previous post....I don't know if I bring up the TV issue if she will change. As she has been a provider for a while and this is part of her routine I feel.
All of this. Talk to your DCP next time you see her in person and see if you can work something out. It is possible your DD is ready to shift her schedule a little, but that doesn't mean she has to drop to one nap a day.
And I agree with the PP's about the screen time. When DS was little I looked at an in-home and she had the tv on a lot. Also, nap time was laying on the LR floor in front of the tv. That is not really a nap time if you ask me. I did not go with her for those reasons.