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Sunday night and I feel like swallowing every pill in the house

I have such a long commute and am so far behind in my field and company I feel like it's never going to be worth it. I'm leaving my kids to be raised by strangers, they're at daycare so much that my oldest is forgetting my native language (which I speak to him at home) and learning words and ideas that I just don't like. I feel like I have this label as an unhappy employee that I will never shake (and guess what? After 3 hours a day in the car I'm not, but that's the only job I could get.  If my employer is reading this, I LIKE MY JOB, but I hate having dizzy spells and chest pains during my commute). I'm the oldest woman at my company by FAR, meaning I'm fattest and ugliest (seriously, I have a genetic disorder that causes me to be fat and with bad skin, and it's an area with a lot of old money, designer clothes, and cosmetic surgery), and probably one of the least successful people in this area.  It's barely worth it to me - while I know I'm underpaid, I did change industries after some time as a SAHM, and I haven't made this small a paycheck in a decade. So to recap, my kids don't get a mom, and they don't get a lot of extra money out of the bargain either (I'm not knocking those of you who are actually successful at what you do; your children clearly benefit. Mine do not).  

 

To top it off, I have no RL friends or any sort of support system. The well-educated professionals (I consider myself one, even though I'm a failure at my career) want nothing to do with me, and then when the people just out of rehab who've lost their kids to Child Services want to pal around, I'm labeled a snob because I'd rather not have stuff like that in my energy field.  After two years in this area, I'm still occasionally told something to the effect of "move back to where you came from, we have enough people here that need jobs already".  Anyone I still talk to from home tells me stuff like, "at least you can have kids", "you should look at your commute as me time", "you should do X, Y, Z..." (Note: I added up all the stuff people say I should be doing, plus the commitments I already have - it comes out to more than 24 hours a day), or my favorite, "You learned to read at X young age/got Y on the SATs/have an IQ of Z, you really should have a better career."

I just feel like such a failure. I don't see it ever getting better. Is this normal for WM, or do I need a mental health day tomorrow?

Re: Sunday night and I feel like swallowing every pill in the house

  • Please get to a crisis phone line or ED or some other sort of help tonight if your subject line is anything close to what you're thinking. Talk to your H and let him know how you are feeling ASAP and let him help you. Please.
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  • Well, I'm not with my kids physically, and my career is such a joke they don't even get any benefit of me working. What, to remember a terrible example as a parent? "My mom was really smart, but always miserable, I might as well pack this bowl and pop in another anime Blu-ray?"

     

    I'm afraid if I go to the ER, my job will find out... I feel like I will be fired if I get labeled z"suicidal" too.  My husband is another one, who feels like everything is my fault because I suck. And I tell him, that's right. I do suck, I have made terrible career choices, and now they can't be reversed or course corrected. I'm a joke. Nobody needs me.

  • jennyelfjennyelf member
    edited March 2014
    Call a crisis line please or use the chat service that @Casey78 mentioned
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    casey78 said:
    Please call the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-8255image800-273-8255.  Or, you can chat online at https://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
    They are confidential and your work will never find out from them that you ever called or contacted them.
    Your children do need you. You missing will leave a void in their lives.
    Sometimes days are really tough, and I know it can feel like nothing can be fixed and nothing will ever get better, but when those days are really tough, it can be hard to see the light because everything is so cloudy. Sometimes holding someone's hand can help you towards something better. Please call or contact someone.
    And no, this is not normal. Maybe Sunday isn't the happiest day in the world, but it shouldn't feel this bad. A mental health day is definitely in order at minimum.
  • jennyelf said:
    Call a crisis line please or use the chat service that @Casey78 mentioned
    You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype
    casey78 said:
    Please call the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-8255image800-273-8255.  Or, you can chat online at https://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
    They are confidential and your work will never find out from them that you ever called or contacted them.
    Your children do need you. You missing will leave a void in their lives.
    Sometimes days are really tough, and I know it can feel like nothing can be fixed and nothing will ever get better, but when those days are really tough, it can be hard to see the light because everything is so cloudy. Sometimes holding someone's hand can help you towards something better. Please call or contact someone.
    And no, this is not normal. Maybe Sunday isn't the happiest day in the world, but it shouldn't feel this bad. A mental health day is definitely in order at minimum.


    I'm sorry to say this, but the suicide hotline is a waste of time. "uh huh, that sucks, ok gotta go now, bye" is pretty much all they have to say. I've called several.

    My concern is IF I can find another person in my life who cares if I live or die and isn't hell-bent on blaming everything from 9-11 to climate change on me, they'd bring me to the ER. The resulting hospitalization and doctor's note would get back to my employers, who would fire me. And then everything would be worse. Everyone would hate me more for being fired, and I'd have even more of a struggle finding a job. Who knows, maybe I could be in the car for 6 hours a day next time...

  • you are so overwhelmed. Ty to talk to your husband and your family if you can. Maybe you can spend time in Church if you are the type. Hugs to you.

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  • Please talk to someone in real life and tell them what you are feeling. There is help. There is hope. Just start by telling someone.
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  • Echoing the others, here... definitely give the lines or online chat a chance.  Sometimes it helps just to hear another voice.
    I'm CERTAIN you don't "suck" at everything - just based on your posts.  You clearly care about your kids and your family and they need you.
    I agree with the PP, it sounds like some depression and anxiety - that is definitely something that can be treated, it sometimes takes a bit for those meds to kick in, but I have seen them work wonders in people, just lifting the fog enough to enable you to see things through a more clear lens.
    Reach out to a counselor if not your husband.  I know the first step is the hardest, but it's also the most important.
    thinking of you!
  • Sending hugs your way. Please listen to PP and consider calling someone right now. I can't see how your employer would find out if you did go to the hospital, but even if they did I think getting help is more important. It's not something that people talk about but a lot of people struggle with depression or anxiety. You would not be the first person in your workplace.

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  • Prayers for you Mama! Your children love and need you. Please seek help. It may not seem like things can get better, but change happens slowly, one small step at a time.
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  • Please go get some help. You can go to an urgent care if you don't want to go to the ER. There's no way that your employer is going to find out. I was having chest pains from anxiety when I was postpartum from my first pregnancy and I went to the doctor. It's nothing to be embarrassed about. It happens to so many people. Just go get some help.
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  • My dad committed suicide. Please don't do that to your kids. Suicide doesn't mean things will get better. It just guarantees they never will.

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  • I wasn't on last night so I didn't see this post, but I really hope you called or saw someone last night and that you are in a happier state this morning.  It sounds like you are so overwhelmed and discouraged.  I can't honestly think of anything to say that anyone else hasn't, except that you are in my thoughts and prayers.  

    All I do know is that your kids don't care about any of the things you are beating yourself up about.  They have no concept of success, money, status and that is a beautiful thing.  In their eyes, you are a hero just because you're their mom.  They love you and need you.  Please get some help so that you can be that for them.  
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    Get help. Any doctor that you see is bound by doctor/patient confidentiality. 


    This. All doctors, therapists, and other medical professionals are bound by HIPPA. Also, firing you for being depressed would be illegal. You actually should be able to get FMLA for that if your employer is covered by FMLA. Please at least go see your primary care MD. I hope you get help and feel better soon. My aunt killed herself and it ruined her kids' lives. One is a drug addict who has been arrested multiple times and the other committed suicide himself. Please don't put your kids through that!
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  • Shakey Jakey, I'm so sorry about your father. :(
     
    I appreciate the kind words ladies - the hotline was busy, but at least I'm at home today.
    K3am said:
    Get help. Any doctor that you see is bound by doctor/patient confidentiality. 


    This. All doctors, therapists, and other medical professionals are bound by HIPPA. Also, firing you for being depressed would be illegal. You actually should be able to get FMLA for that if your employer is covered by FMLA. Please at least go see your primary care MD. I hope you get help and feel better soon. My aunt killed herself and it ruined her kids' lives. One is a drug addict who has been arrested multiple times and the other committed suicide himself. Please don't put your kids through that!

    I'm sorry, I know you're trying to be nice but I need to defend this. I have some biological relatives with, ahem, less than stellar life paths, and I'm sorry that you have to deal with that also.

     

    But I've never touched drugs I didn't have a prescription for, and never had worse trouble with the law than a speeding ticket. And while nobody here was saying this, having to CONSTANTLY hear IRL "you could end up just like your biological Relative So-and-So" if I, say, get a "satisfactory not excellent" performance review, don't get invited to the right parties, etc, truly has not been helpful.  A reason I cannot go through my husband's EAP program is that the intake counselor lied and said I was abusing drugs - dumb bitch, the conversation was being recorded, and I clearly stated I've never touched them. Perhaps if just ONE person had not been so goddam harsh on me, or held back with the completely false and out-there labels, I would be in a better place right now.

    My oldest just turned 3 and will not remember me.

  • OP - Please call a crisis line or your company's EAP.  Therapists are required to be confidential.  Don't EVER think no one wants you around.  A former co-worker committed suicide about a year and a half ago, and I will NEVER forget the wail from her 11-year-old son right before the funeral service began.  They actually started the service about 5-10 minutes late because he was so inconsolable.  Think of your kids.  They need you; they need their mom.
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  • Your toddler will remember you. And both kids will forever have a hole in their hearts if you leave them now.

    I know you are scared and angry but just pick up the phone and call for help. Right now.
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  • Suicide is a cowardly thing to do.  

    I think you need to quit blaming everyone else and straighten things out for yourself.  Put your big girl panties on and do your job.

      Maybe get some thick skin . 

    Please tell me you're not a mental health professional.  That is not helpful, and not something you should EVER say to someone who is depressed.  Holy crap.

  • Hey @EgoCommaAlter I'm glad you are still around today and I hope that you took a mental health day.  

    I understand feeling like things are insurmountable, trust me I understand.  My husband was diagnosed with a terminal illness 5 days after our DD turned one.  I am 28, he is 33.  We are hoping for a recovery, but we don't know and won't know for some time.  I have definitely gone through dark days where the crap catches up and piles on and just suffocates me, but I have learned you have to find something, anything to make you smile.  For me, it was my DD's smile and laugh.  If I ever get to feeling really down, I know that she can smile and laugh and light up my darkness.  Find that for you, and remember it.  

    Your kids know you and will always remember you, but don't make them have to remember you.  Let them live with you.  I hope you find something and I am always around.  Feel free to PM me or whatever.  

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  • And it really saddens me when someone thinks that suicide the only option.   

    Then understand that when you make comments like the above to someone seriously depressed, you appear to be goading them into it. I don't care what your intentions were, if the bolded/above is the way you talk to those you're trying to help, I shudder to imagine what you do and say to those you're trying to hurt.
  • Shakey Jakey, I'm so sorry about your father. :(
     
    I appreciate the kind words ladies - the hotline was busy, but at least I'm at home today.
    K3am said:
    Get help. Any doctor that you see is bound by doctor/patient confidentiality. 


    This. All doctors, therapists, and other medical professionals are bound by HIPPA. Also, firing you for being depressed would be illegal. You actually should be able to get FMLA for that if your employer is covered by FMLA. Please at least go see your primary care MD. I hope you get help and feel better soon. My aunt killed herself and it ruined her kids' lives. One is a drug addict who has been arrested multiple times and the other committed suicide himself. Please don't put your kids through that!

    I'm sorry, I know you're trying to be nice but I need to defend this. I have some biological relatives with, ahem, less than stellar life paths, and I'm sorry that you have to deal with that also.

     

    But I've never touched drugs I didn't have a prescription for, and never had worse trouble with the law than a speeding ticket. And while nobody here was saying this, having to CONSTANTLY hear IRL "you could end up just like your biological Relative So-and-So" if I, say, get a "satisfactory not excellent" performance review, don't get invited to the right parties, etc, truly has not been helpful.  A reason I cannot go through my husband's EAP program is that the intake counselor lied and said I was abusing drugs - dumb bitch, the conversation was being recorded, and I clearly stated I've never touched them. Perhaps if just ONE person had not been so goddam harsh on me, or held back with the completely false and out-there labels, I would be in a better place right now.

    My oldest just turned 3 and will not remember me.

    I wasn't implying that you take drugs or have ever used drugs. I was simply pointing out that losing a parent by suicide, or in any other way for that matter, can have a devastating effect on children. I'm a child therapist and it's very hard on kids to lose a parent. I hope you will be able to get some help and at least see a medical doctor to discuss your options. Growing up with a parent who is depressed can be very hard for kids too. I'm not saying it affects your kids now, but the potential is there. Good luck. You will be in my thoughts.
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  • I'm thinking she's doing this because she's really fucking depressed! Maybe a normal person without serious depression would say "hey, you guys are right, I just need a good night's sleep and I'll be fine tomorrow" but that's not the case with OP. Obviously there are deeper issues here. And your first comment about suicide being cowardly is probably one of the meanest things I've seen on TB and I've seen a lot of shit on here. How dare you.

    OP I'm scared for you and your kids after reading this. You have no choice here and have to get help immediately. Please.

    I'm sorry to everyone I offended.  I did not realize my point of view was so offensive.  The Bump removed my original comment and I only meant to help, not hurt anyone.  Unfortunately, the offensive part of my original comment was quoted, as the rest of my original comment was not offensive.  After the loss of my brother from suicide, I have become very jaded on the topic.  Again, I'm sorry. 


    Well, your nasty post and your defense of it got some "hearts". So I guess you're not alone in your self-righteous judgement. Just know that having to deal with people like you, makes my and likely others' depression worse. Hopefully that is some comfort to you.

    If you were "trying to help", I'm a six-legged frog who moonlights as a Liza Minelli impersonator. For the love of GOD, unless you're trying to solve the global overpopulation issues, never "try to help" a person who's down again until you get some therapy for your own trauma.

    Had you offered the fact of your brother's loss up front, rather than your incredibly cruelly and bitchily worded judgements, I and likely others would have received your post differently. I am truly deeply sorry for your brother's suffering, as well as for your and your family's loss. That is why I will keep my assessment of your apparent character and lack of compassion to myself.



  • Ugh, I can't get rid of this text box, sorry! Anyway, OP I think this has been mentioned several times, but PLEASE at least go see your PCP or OB to be assessed for depression. It's very common for regular doctors (versus psychiatrists) to prescribe antidepressants these days. There are many safe medications that have few to no side effects that can help you feel better. Most come in a generic form and are really cheap.  I myself take an antidepressant and would be suicidal without it. Please get some help and feel better. Feel free to PM me if you have questions!
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  • I have to chime in as a mental health provider and therapist. Confidentiality can be broken if the person threatens to hurt others or themselves. Op, please get help from someone, but remember that confidentiality may not be possible (for your own safety). It would be incredibly illegal for your company to fire you for a medical condition. Good luck and I will be thinking of you.
  • TNChick said:
    I have to chime in as a mental health provider and therapist. Confidentiality can be broken if the person threatens to hurt others or themselves. Op, please get help from someone, but remember that confidentiality may not be possible (for your own safety). It would be incredibly illegal for your company to fire you for a medical condition. Good luck and I will be thinking of you.
    Agreed as another mental health provider. Confidentiality must sometimes be broken to guarantee a patient's safety. This would typically include involving a family member to assist with keeping the person safe, but I can't think of a circumstance when it would be disclosed to your employer. If you went on FMLA, there would be some info I'm the paperwork for your employer. It definitely would be illegal to fire you for a medical condition.
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  • Honestly, I'm beating my head against a wall here, though feel less desperate today.

    I have some let's say uncommon external constraints that limit my ability to just waltz into a psychologist's office, but a doctor back where I'm from is probably going to get me some antidepressants, and I have been looking for life coaches.  Granted, I don't know how the F I'm supposed to afford the latter in terms of time or money, but there is that at least.  In the meantime, work thinks I'm just dealing with severe allergy attacks. 

    I really appreciate the caring and reach-out from everyone here. Sucks when the only people that care if you live or die are strangers in the computer, but it's better than nothing. :)

     

    Thank you ladies, seriously.

  • OP, thanks for the update.  I am glad you have reached out.  It takes courage.  Try to take it one day at a time.  Help yourself first, then you'll be able manage the other challenges in your life.
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  • Honestly, I'm beating my head against a wall here, though feel less desperate today.

    I have some let's say uncommon external constraints that limit my ability to just waltz into a psychologist's office, but a doctor back where I'm from is probably going to get me some antidepressants, and I have been looking for life coaches.  Granted, I don't know how the F I'm supposed to afford the latter in terms of time or money, but there is that at least.  In the meantime, work thinks I'm just dealing with severe allergy attacks. 

    I really appreciate the caring and reach-out from everyone here. Sucks when the only people that care if you live or die are strangers in the computer, but it's better than nothing. :)

     

    Thank you ladies, seriously.

    I'm going to go ahead and disagree with the person who said that any doctor can prescribe antidepressants and suggest that if you are looking into meds, you NEED to see a psychiatrist.  Yes, any doc can write a script - but that doesn't mean that they *should*.  Not every medication works for every person, and seeing a good psychiatrist to start with can help eliminate a lot of the guesswork - because guess what, a person whose job it is to help people with depression/anxiety knows a lot more about how different meds might affect a person with different sets of symptoms than a GP or OB, whose job is to deal with all sorts of different medical issues.

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    True, but in OP's previous posts she stated she did not have access to a therapist or psychiatrist.  Her PCP and/or OB were suggested as alternatives to help OP see that she did have options to turn to for help.  OP feels very isolated and feels no one in real life can or would help her.  We have been encouraging her to seek help from sources she may not have considered.  Asking for help is a huge step for OP.
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