October 2013 Moms

O13 Sleep training

MangoMama82MangoMama82 member
edited March 2014 in October 2013 Moms
I know this is a sensitive subject around these parts, so hows about another poll for those who are not ready to come out. My sleep training books say start at 4 months. So I gotta know...
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O13 Sleep training 182 votes

Whateva- I sleep trained my baby at 4 mos exactly and it worked
3% 6 votes
Sleep trained at 4 mos and failed, so it's on hold
0% 1 vote
Plan on tackling it afte/aroundr 6 mos
32% 59 votes
Sleep training is a load of crap
43% 79 votes
SS
20% 37 votes

Re: O13 Sleep training

  • I said SS because it really depends on how he's sleeping around that time. (Which would be at least 6 mos old.)

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  • kicius56 said:

    I put it's crap. I'm willing to bet sleep training works on easy babies and not on the high maintenance ones. #jaded

    Yeah. I feel like my baby would cry for hours and learn nothing
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  • kicius56 said:

    I put it's crap. I'm willing to bet sleep training works on easy babies and not on the high maintenance ones. #jaded

    Agreed.
  • I haven't sleep trained my 2yo, so I voted load of crap.


  • I voted load of crap. I would consider for only very serious issues maybe around age 1 or later. I have serious insomnia issues. I think I would of been devastate if my Mom left me to cry all night long.
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  • A friend of mine sleep trained her D from the time she brought her home. Granted her LO was in the NICU for 38 days. And came home with a feeding tube so, they just fed her through the tube in her nose in the middle of the night. Then when the tube came out she did sleep training, she increased the intervals of crying by 3 minutes every time. Not sure it's my style, but it worked for her.
    We rock to sleep, since 6 weeks old dd goes in her crib and if she wakes up I go rock her or give her a paci. Most of the time she isn't hungry she just wakes herself up.
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    DS is a terrible sleeper. We had a good night last night and were "only" up 5 times.

    However, I do not believe that I can "fix" his crappy sleep with crappy sleep training. He's not being manipulative ... he's hungry or cold or he has a cough or a noise woke him or ....
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  • DH and I were great sleepers as babies so I think LO just got good genes in that dept. We haven't had to do anything special IMO she just likes to sleep. Don't hate me though... We have lots of other issues, so it's not like it's all rainbows in this household.
  • No sleep training and DD has been STTN since she was about 2 mos. just luck I guess

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  • I put SS because I feel like it would depend on what kind of "training" it was. Personally I couldn't listen to her cry.. I was over my friends house and her 18mo old (who was a great sleeper until she was 15mo) woke up she let her cry a few minutes and I was like GET HER! :((
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  • I don't hide my shit. We started a week before she hit 5 months and we are now sleeping awesome. Still gets up for 2 feedings (which is normal for this age, feed your baby if hungry… you will know if they are not!) But DD falls asleep on her own and naps SO much better. Also used with DS and worked like a charm.

  • While I don't believe it's total crap, I do believe that only some babies benefit from it based on my first go round on the boards. High needs babies will be high needs and will need a lot of help learning to sleep. And sleep training isn't always CIO. We tried the sleep lady shuffle, no cry sleep solution, etc before going to Ferber - but in the end DD1 needed to cry and let out whatever it was holding her back from sleeping. It was amazing the change in all her sleep once we trained. She still has a crazy winding down period before she sleeps, it's just who she is. I felt awful doing it but was a convert afterwards. We realized all of her issues with eating, napping, etc were due to not sleeping. I think it's a disservice to babies to not help them learn to sleep well. However that may happen.

    I'm definitely pro sleep training after 6 months. I know, I know they're going to take my AP parenting badge. So many of my non-CIO friends ultimately had to resort to a few nights of it and the babies all slept better afterwards.
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  • I just go with whatever she wants and will continue to do so.

    Dare I say it.... My LO sleeps from 9:30-5:30 and takes two 1.5 hour naps a day. I can't complain *runs and knocks on all the wood she can find*
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  • kicius56 said:

    I put it's crap. I'm willing to bet sleep training works on easy babies and not on the high maintenance ones. #jaded

    Agree. Miss Rebecca won't fall for it.
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  • Apparently we are doing a cio method for her mommy separation. Yeah, this will be a fight later.....
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  • I'm open to it depending on how things go. I probably won't look more into it until we move her to her own room and I'm planning on doing that around 6 months.

    You took the words out of my mouth. Not open to CIO, I have bought NCSS in the event we need it.

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  • I put ss.
    I haven't done any research on it to make a decision. But I will NOT be doing any CIO despite what my pedi says.
    He sleeps OK because we bed share so even when he eats frequently I barely notice before I fall back to sleep.
    Once I try to get him into the crib in his room may be a different story though.
    I can't imagine doing anything now regardless. He's teething so badly that he needs extra cuddles.
    And after reading "mommy, somebody needs you" and crying....forget it.
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  • With DD1, I was all like, "my precious baby can't be allowed to cry!" So we ended up cosleeping or just not sleeping til she was nearly 2.

    With DD2, I tried cosleeping but after 7-8 months she refused to sleep with me anymore. We started a gentler CIO soon after. It worked awesome. She just needed to get some yelling out before she was ready to sleep. Never more than 45 seconds. I could hold her and rock her for 2 hours and she wouldn't sleep. 45 seconds of yelling and she would go right out.

    dD3 is an awesome sleeper. I hope we can avoid CIO with her, but I'm not afraid to use it if needed in the future.
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  • I voted SS bc we never did any "sleep training" but LO sleeps just fine. But if he didnt, I wouldn't be opposed to trying it.
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  • I read Healthy Sleep Habits, and in my edition of the book it involves crying, so there's that... I agree completely that it's kind of cruel to not step in and help the babies learn how to self soothe and sleep. My baby fights sleep to the point that he will have heavy eyes ALL day, but if I try to rock him, for example, he will claw at the chair and stomp his legs. During the day he passes out in my arms but can rarely be up down. I can't imagine it's healthy for him to go on this way for 2-3 more months. Sleep training means just that. I never narrowed it down to CIO because that's not the only method. I'm also interested to hear about methods that worked for other moms in the past. And while I'm not against letting him cry for a bit, I don't think I could do the whole put him in the crib and don't go back until morning thing.
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  • We sleep trained DS at 6 months. We tried Ferber first bc that's what most of my friends did. It was clear it wasn't going to work the first night. After that we did sleep lady shuffle and if we need to do that with dd we will. Sleep training is a misnomer- it's not training so much as helping to learn to fall asleep. Nobody thrives on a sleep deficet.
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  • danandkamdanandkam member
    edited March 2014
    Crap! I just think some babies are good sleepers and some aren't. Both of my children have been good sleepers...so far. I did no sleep training. I think just like with adults, some sleep better than others.

    ETA: left out a word
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  • DD was a great sleeper. She got stubborn at 9 months because she figured out that sleeping wasn't as fun as staying up! lol So one night of CIO and she was back to sleeping great.

    DS is another story. He hates his crib most of the time so he sleeps in the RNP a lot. He has very bad reflux so I don't force the crib yet. He is no where near the naturally good sleeper DD was. That said, I will likely do some type of sleep training but likely not CIO, and not until he is older (>6mos) and outgrowing the reflux. I know he is going to need some help but probably wont respond well to Ferber or CIO so I'm going to have to do some research.

    I believe you have to look at each child individually and do what is best for each one. Like a pp said, it is about teaching them to be able to soothe and fall asleep independently. Some kids won't need any guidance, while others may need a lot of help. Some may just need to cry for a few minutes to get settled and others would scream for hours if no one intervened. It's about doing what is best to help YOUR child sleep and that looks different for everyone.
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    Sleep Training is a spectrum. One extreme being extinction CIO (put them to bed and don't go back until morning; the idea being that if crying never results in you coming in, they will stop doing it; I don't want to call strangers names but @afolske's FB "friend" seemed to be doing this) and the other extreme being responding to every sleep disturbance.

    Along that spectrum you have Ferber, Weisbluth (Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child), Pantley (No-Cry Sleep Solution), Waldburger (The SleepEasy Solution), among others.

    You just have to figure out what makes sense to you, what works for your child/family, and what you're comfortable with . . . like pretty much every parenting decision you make.
  • I think I just am one of the luckier ones I have no problems with DS sleeping over night and there was no secret training needed.  He goes to sleep at 9pm wakes up around 530am and it back to sleep till 730am-ish then nurses once more and is asleep till 9am.  He only has 3 or 4 30 minute naps which isn't the best but I don't think its so bad.

    Honestly If I had to hear my baby crying all night I wouldn't get any sleep, I don't know how anyone does it.
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  • On the other hand, if my LO wasn't a great sleeper I might be persuaded a little easier. I can't imagine it's healthy for parents/baby to constantly run on no sleep. You gotta do what works for you and your family.
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