Appt Update

Rachaeleigh · February 2014

Hi ladies. Just wanted to provide an update about our appt yesterday, as well as ask a question.
Everything is pretty much the same with me. All tests related to RPL as well as infertility show absolutely nothing. I did show low on vitamin D, and some liver and kidney numbers came back low, but my RE said to just follow up with PCP.

I was quite surprised to hear results of DHs S.A. Count was 12million, motility 50 percent and morphology 4 percent. So, I guess the count and morph is low. The nurse did say that the wash during IUI would essentially help that. Is that correct?

So, the plan we had come up with, pending test results, was medicated IUI. That is the what we'll stick with (follitism and ovidrel)
The question that I forgot to ask is if low morph potentially could have contributed to our losses. Any idea?
We also found out that our insurance pays nothing past diagnostic, so we're all OOP for monitoring and IUI.

lindsebert · February 2014

Glad to hear everything is "normal" for the most part. Even though sometimes that frustrates me because I just want answers.

As far as the wash goes, our RE told us the same thing. DH's numbers were okay to begin with, but the IUI/wash definitely won't hurt anything. GL with all of these upcoming steps.

At my RE's office IUIs OOP are in the neighborhood of $500. I don't know if that is pretty standard or not, but hopefully it will be reasonable for you. Sorry to hear that insurance won't be helping out.

Rachaeleigh · February 2014

lindsebert said:
Glad to hear everything is "normal" for the most part. Even though sometimes that frustrates me because I just want answers.

As far as the wash goes, our RE told us the same thing. DH's numbers were okay to begin with, but the IUI/wash definitely won't hurt anything. GL with all of these upcoming steps.

At my RE's office IUIs OOP are in the neighborhood of $500. I don't know if that is pretty standard or not, but hopefully it will be reasonable for you. Sorry to hear that insurance won't be helping out.

Is that your price for monitoring and everything? Not including meds, we're looking at about 2k each cycle

lindsebert · February 2014

rachaelhudson said:

Glad to hear everything is "normal" for the most part. Even though sometimes that frustrates me because I just want answers.

As far as the wash goes, our RE told us the same thing. DH's numbers were okay to begin with, but the IUI/wash definitely won't hurt anything. GL with all of these upcoming steps.

At my RE's office IUIs OOP are in the neighborhood of $500. I don't know if that is pretty standard or not, but hopefully it will be reasonable for you. Sorry to hear that insurance won't be helping out.
Is that your price for monitoring and everything? Not including meds, we're looking at about 2k each cycle

That's not counting meds or DH's wash. The meds differ depending on what you're getting I suppose. DH's wash at our office is around $125 OOP.

buggirl72 · February 2014

In glad you have a plan going forward. My exH has low motility, morphology, and numbers among other issues. The RE we had at the time recommended IUI with a sperm wash because of the bad SA.

I'm not sure if low morph can indicate a quality issue. It stands to reason but I would check with your RE. Is your DH taking any supplements? Someone on TTC+35 posted on her blog about the sups her H is taking - I think her name is IFinTN (sorry mobile - I'll give you a link later).

Rachaeleigh · February 2014

rel="snegde">Glad you have a plan! When should AF show up?

Im 7dpo today. We won't start until next month bc we leave for vacation next week!

Rachaeleigh · February 2014

buggirl72 said:
In glad you have a plan going forward. My exH has low motility, morphology, and numbers among other issues. The RE we had at the time recommended IUI with a sperm wash because of the bad SA.

I'm not sure if low morph can indicate a quality issue. It stands to reason but I would check with your RE. Is your DH taking any supplements? Someone on TTC+35 posted on her blog about the sups her H is taking - I think her name is IFinTN (sorry mobile - I'll give you a link later).

He does take a multi vitamin but just told me that he ordered a different, fertility related one. Way to go DH for being proactive.
He also takes maca powder and spirulia (sp?) Daily.

jenkellen · February 2014

Glad you got some answers at your appointment. Do you know if they used the strict criteria for the SA? If it's strict anything over 4% is considered normal. Also, they only take 100 sperm to analyze so it's not super scientific. You could get a repeat SA to see if the results are the same in a few months.

Ky29 on 3T and TTCAL would be a great person to ask. Her diagnosis is similar to yours, and knows a ton about MFI. Also there were a few other ladies on 3T who took supplements to improve their numbers but I don't know what they were.

As for miscarriages, I have read mixed things about morph being the cause.

Where are you going on vacation? Have fun!

Rachaeleigh · February 2014

jenkellen said:
Glad you got some answers at your appointment. Do you know if they used the strict criteria for the SA? If it's strict anything over 4% is considered normal. Also, they only take 100 sperm to analyze so it's not super scientific. You could get a repeat SA to see if the results are the same in a few months.

Ky29 on 3T and TTCAL would be a great person to ask. Her diagnosis is similar to yours, and knows a ton about MFI. Also there were a few other ladies on 3T who took supplements to improve their numbers but I don't know what they were.

As for miscarriages, I have read mixed things about morph being the cause.

Where are you going on vacation? Have fun!

Im not sure about criteria, Ill ask next time!
I just posted on 3T, so hopefully some ladies will respond.
We're going to Miami and the keys...can't wait

jbasore1123 · February 2014

No advice on whether low morph can affect quality, but I'm glad you have a plan moving forward. Did your RE suggest any supplements he can take, like CoQ10, Tourine, Vitamin C, etc?

Rachaeleigh · February 2014

jbasore1123 said:
No advice on whether low morph can affect quality, but I'm glad you have a plan moving forward. Did your RE suggest any supplements he can take, like CoQ10, Tourine, Vitamin C, etc?

Not at all. When I asked her she said that "all the things I was already doing," meaning acupuncture and meditation, would be helpful.

jenn0021 · February 2014

I'm sorry that all the testing didn't give you many answers, that must be frustrating. But I'm glad that your RE is putting a plan in place and I hope it goes well moving forward. That sucks about having to pay OOP though, hopefully it's not too pricey.

Have a fabulous vacation!

LydsieMarie7 · February 2014

I don't really have advice but wanted to say have fun on your vacation!

MsAmandaPants · February 2014

Rachaeleigh said:

Hi ladies. Just wanted to provide an update about our appt yesterday, as well as ask a question. Everything is pretty much the same with me. All tests related to RPL as well as infertility show absolutely nothing. I did show low on vitamin D, and some liver and kidney numbers came back low, but my RE said to just follow up with PCP. I was quite surprised to hear results of DHs S.A. Count was 12million, motility 50 percent and morphology 4 percent. So, I guess the count and morph is low. The nurse did say that the wash during IUI would essentially help that. Is that correct? So, the plan we had come up with, pending test results, was medicated IUI. That is the what we'll stick with (follitism and ovidrel) The question that I forgot to ask is if low morph potentially could have contributed to our losses. Any idea? We also found out that our insurance pays nothing past diagnostic, so we're all OOP for monitoring and IUI.

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About the morph . . . I was told 4% was considered normal (sounds crazy, I know). My partner I was also told that of all the parameters, morph is the most controversial and also the most difficult to measure, in that it is somewhat subjective (some normal sperm look pear shaped if viewed from the wrong angle, for example). You might look into putting your man on FertilAid for Men (with the blessing of your RE, of course), but my RE supported that plan and it did seem to help with volume and his overall numbers. Unlike FertilAid for Women, I think the men's blend doesn't have any ingredients that monkey with hormones, just amino acids and b vitamins (but you might double check, my memory is not stellar).

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