Need help from you lovelies again.

Jdogs12 · February 2014

Hi ladies! I was here way back in 2010/2011 while my wife and I were trying for #1 and you were all so helpful in leading me into a place to start. We were lucky enough to have a son in 2012. Now we are TTC #2 with the same donor. I just went through 3 IUI cycles with the very LAST of this donor's good stuff. I'm desperate and talked to the bank yesterday. They have 8 sup-par vials in stock which is less than 10 million swimmers. Anyone have any experience or advice with using these? Thank you so much!!

JGY · February 2014

I don't have any experience with sub-par vials, but from a negotiating standpoint, I would ask if they have any real market for these other than you two being willing to take a chance? If they've labled the vials as "Sub-par" and aren't marketing them at a set (lower) cost, then I'd say you could make an offer. That is assuming you're willing to chance some BFN's in the attempt to have a full sibling to your LO.

It's amazing how many times, as consumers, we assume that a company has a plan for something that they really haven't thought through at all. I might be tempted to offer to pay for performance on this one, at least as a start to the conversation (as in, pay full price if insem results in a pregnancy, and less - or nothing at all - for a BFN). Of course I am making the assumption that they were not planning on selling these vials, and have not already quoted a price.

Anyway, good luck to you! And just as a PSA, since you haven't been on the board in a while, we have a pretty healthy diversity of peeps around here these days which includes gender identity/conformity. It's an awesome place, and we hope you stick around!

healz413 · February 2014

Hi and welcome back.
Is IVF an option at all? If so, quality of the sperm is a less important factor because you can do ICSI to directly inject one sperm into an egg.

Good luck!

ball.and.chain · February 2014

I guess I would want to know HOW much less than 10 million they are. There's a difference between 2 million and 9 million. I had several vials of sperm come back with counts lower than 10 million (they were NOT labeled sub-par, though I was later reimbursed for them because they were lower than the guaranteed minimum), and my RE still thought it was worth going forward with the IUIs. I didn't get pregnant on any of them, but I didn't get pregnant on any of my IUIs, even with "good" sperm, so the problem may have been me.

trisholio · February 2014

My wife and I got pregnant using a KD with IUI, his numbers were a bit low around 4 million. I am not sure what the difference in frozen vs fresh numbers should be, but I thought I would throw that out there.

Jdogs12 · February 2014

Thank you all for your help! I called my midwife group that does the insems and they really don't have any more aggressive suggestions for me. I looked into insurance yesterday and it looks like fertility will be covered after 6 months for those over 35 years old (me). I've made an appt with a fertility clinic for March 5th- hopefully they say try a few more IUIs to reach 6 months and then possibly IVF. In the meantime, I might try a back to back this next cycle. Thanks again

Jdogs12 · February 2014

ugh- sorry for the silly tags...can't seem to get rid of them!

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