October 2013 Moms

STTN, keeping it real.

Interesting article on STTN. Good timing with the poll and many questions on STTN. I know for me it's helpful to keep it in perspective.

https://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201301/baby-sleep-training-mistakes-experts-and-parents-make
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Re: STTN, keeping it real.

  • Thanks for this!!! DH finally got it!!
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  • I side eye any study that advocates bed sharing as being a safe alternative without going into extensive detail on how to do it safely.
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  • I side eye any study that advocates bed sharing as being a safe alternative without going into extensive detail on how to do it safely.

    I side-eye you for not realizing this is a Psychology Today article, not a Parents magazine article.

    #missingthepoint
  • LC122LC122 member
    edited February 2014

    LC122 said:

    I side eye any study that advocates bed sharing as being a safe alternative without going into extensive detail on how to do it safely.

    I side-eye you for not realizing this is a Psychology Today article, not a Parents magazine article.

    #missingthepoint

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    Still haven't figured out how to block people? Or realize that deep down you don't want to?
  • Also, look at some of the articles linked to it. I am apparently puttingmu children in solitary confinemt because they have their own room.
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  • Thanks for posting. 

    I really liked this quote from it, "The overall goal should be nights that parents can live with, not eliminating night waking at all costs."
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  • LC122 said:

    I side eye any study that advocates bed sharing as being a safe alternative without going into extensive detail on how to do it safely.

    I side-eye you for not realizing this is a Psychology Today article, not a Parents magazine article.

    #missingthepoint
    Ok, so I am desperate for sleep and google sleep training, this comes up and I read it. In desperation I just bring baby into bed like they say to because it's not that big of a risk according to the article. Do you think it fucking matters what the source is? I am not planning in doing sleep training either but any responsible article about sleep needs to at least have a read more here section when it comes to bed sharing because often they are being read when a parent is trying to make a sleep deprived decision.

    #youreabitch
    #dontevencareifigetflagged
    I don't thing anyone here would flag you for that except lcnumbers. She's not liked around here.
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  • beckybeth123beckybeth123 member
    edited February 2014
    StefMurph said:

    LC122 said:

    I side eye any study that advocates bed sharing as being a safe alternative without going into extensive detail on how to do it safely.

    I side-eye you for not realizing this is a Psychology Today article, not a Parents magazine article.

    #missingthepoint
    Ok, so I am desperate for sleep and google sleep training, this comes up and I read it. In desperation I just bring baby into bed like they say to because it's not that big of a risk according to the article. Do you think it fucking matters what the source is? I am not planning in doing sleep training either but any responsible article about sleep needs to at least have a read more here section when it comes to bed sharing because often they are being read when a parent is trying to make a sleep deprived decision.

    #youreabitch
    #dontevencareifigetflagged
    I don't thing anyone here would flag you for that except lcnumbers. She's not liked around here.
    I know. But it is deft not nice to call someone names. However, this website with the sleep study is right up her alley. There appear to be a lot of articles about how superior breast feeding is.

    Is this really a legit psychology
    website? It appears to be quite biased.

    Edited to fix a word
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  • Mama2be12345Mama2be12345 member
    edited February 2014

    Thanks for posting. 

    I really liked this quote from it, "The overall goal should be nights that parents can live with, not eliminating night waking at all costs."

    Exactly this.

    Not trying to start drama or advocate for how or where our LO's sleep just a reminder that if your LO is still waking at night it's normal and okay. I know for me it was a nice reminder that I'm not doing it all wrong.

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  • pmarie33 said:

    Shouldn't we be drinking?  

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    Deft not if you are going to bedshare ;)
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  • jennlin said:

    Bedsharing is the norm around the world. Not everything needs to come with a warning label.

    I know there are plenty of mommas who bedshare safely. That is your choice. Parenting is all about weighing pros and cons to find the best option for your family. I just think it is irresponsible for a website to give parenting advice without acknowledging that there are safety concerns.
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  • I am going to say my final peace and then I'll stop bothering everyone with this ;)
    I just think sleep issues are different than most other parenting topics. My first was a terrible sleeper and my research on sleeping started at 230 in the morning while I was nursing a baby and crying in a glider. I had not gotten more than three consecutive hours of sleep in six months. If I had come across this article telling me to bedshare from a legitimate sounding source, I may have taken him to bed, fluffy pillows, comforters, snoring husband and all. It is not like solids or breast feeding or daycare. Your body has a physical need to sleep and otherwise responsible parents make bad decisions when they are exhausted (like sleeping in a recliner with baby). I think people who post about sleep need to at least clearly state safety measures because it is often very tired parents reading the posts.

    That being said, I do agree that wake ups are normal at six months. Hell, I am 30 and sometimes don't STTN.
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  • Mad props to @Wedding06 for keeping it real.

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  • cdhaslag said:
    I am going to say my final peace and then I'll stop bothering everyone with this ;) I just think sleep issues are different than most other parenting topics. My first was a terrible sleeper and my research on sleeping started at 230 in the morning while I was nursing a baby and crying in a glider. I had not gotten more than three consecutive hours of sleep in six months. If I had come across this article telling me to bedshare from a legitimate sounding source, I may have taken him to bed, fluffy pillows, comforters, snoring husband and all. It is not like solids or breast feeding or daycare. Your body has a physical need to sleep and otherwise responsible parents make bad decisions when they are exhausted (like sleeping in a recliner with baby). I think people who post about sleep need to at least clearly state safety measures because it is often very tired parents reading the posts. That being said, I do agree that wake ups are normal at six months. Hell, I am 30 and sometimes don't STTN.
    I think you mean final piece*.... Carry on.
    I thought you speak your peace, no?
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  • cdhaslag said:

    I am going to say my final peace and then I'll stop bothering everyone with this ;)
    I just think sleep issues are different than most other parenting topics. My first was a terrible sleeper and my research on sleeping started at 230 in the morning while I was nursing a baby and crying in a glider. I had not gotten more than three consecutive hours of sleep in six months. If I had come across this article telling me to bedshare from a legitimate sounding source, I may have taken him to bed, fluffy pillows, comforters, snoring husband and all. It is not like solids or breast feeding or daycare. Your body has a physical need to sleep and otherwise responsible parents make bad decisions when they are exhausted (like sleeping in a recliner with baby). I think people who post about sleep need to at least clearly state safety measures because it is often very tired parents reading the posts.

    That being said, I do agree that wake ups are normal at six months. Hell, I am 30 and sometimes don't STTN.

    I think you mean final piece*.... Carry on.
    Thanks
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