Our baby girl is due in 3 weeks. We are ecstatic and have been preparing for a while now. It is our first child and my in-law's first grandchild... And my husband is also an only child. I know my in-laws care and think they are being helpful, but my mother-in-law has over-bearing tendencies and has constantly been saying/doing things that come off as a know-it-all and I feel like she is discrediting us as adults and also new parents. She reminds us, "Oh, just wait until the baby comes and you get no sleep," or, "You're going to want a break, just wait." Also, if I state random things I believe in instilling in my child that she doesn't quite agree with she says, "...You'll change your mind once she's here." There has also been a lot of talk about religion, which I feel is none of her business. We're going to raise our children without religion, but instill a feeling of safety and choice in our household. We are open to questions, curiosities, and we are absolutely 100% okay with our child choosing their own religion. This has been agreed upon by both me and my husband (I am atheist, he is agnostic).
Not only that, she says things that make me think she has these wild expectations about her involvement with the baby from the get-go. She converted a room in her house to a baby room. She didn't buy a crib or paint, thank god, but she bought a day bed and mentioned "putting rails up for when baby comes over," which is even worse because that is SO inappropriate/unsafe. There is also a dresser now with old toys and raggedy old blankets of my husbands in it and she actually took diapers that we are storing there while we are in the transition of moving and put them in HER "baby designated room" without even asking. I don't know how to break it to her that the baby won't be sleeping there, and if so it will be occasionally and not for long periods of time. I don't know if she expects to babysit her all the time or if she thinks we're just going to get sick of her and drop her off with them, or what! I have tried to drop hints that when baby comes over, we'll supply her with things she needs in her diaper bag...
Me having issues with my over-bearing mother-in-law is not new news. I posted similar discussions on The Knot during our engagement and prior to our wedding. I understand that a difference in family dynamics and a difference in personalities is clearly going to create some rifts at times (my husband is an only child who lives close to his parents while I am one of three and live 2,000 miles from my family; his mother feels like she shows love through being involved in our lives--usually TOO involved, in my opinion and many others'--while my family and I understand that our love is strong, but we respect each other's independence by giving space and not involving ourselves in personal matters/issues unless sought after). However, I also feel like I shouldn't have to fully change my preferences or wishes and forefeit my true happiness just to make his family happy. I think they feel entitled and expect us to adopt all of their beliefs/traditions just because we live close to them and just because they feel their ways of parenting are better than my family's (this has been expressed by them in a "gentler" way).
My question for you all is how do I sit down to discuss the following things with her without coming off as a total B--- of a daughter-in-law?
My Wishes
The in-laws are welcome to be at the hospital IN THE WAITING ROOM during labor, but these are the conditions:
Also, I will never keep my daughter from her grandparents or keep them from her, but I have never done this before and I can't say I'll be open to a bunch of visitors at the hospital for long periods of time. I don't even know how I'll feel even after we arrive home. I do not want to give them the impression that they can't come around, but I also don't want them to think that they are welcome any day, any time. Visits must be planned and they must call ahead. Also, if I/we are not feeling up to having them over, that must be respected and understood. I will be reasonable, but again, I feel like she has already set expectations to see the baby right away a LOT more often than I envisioned or else I wouldn't stress this so much. I want some private time with my family, too!
While these types of things don't really bother/concern my husband, he does know how pushy she can be and how much she can meddle so he is onboard with these requests. I want to sit down with my mother and father-in-law AND my husband to discuss this ahead of time. I do NOT want to be stressing about this in the hospital and/or during my first few moments at home with a new infant.
Now, what are you suggestions for relaying this to them? I plan on sitting down all together in person soon... I want to be sensitive, but also firm.
Re: Mother-in-Law Concerns
I don't understand the fascination with getting the baby alone without me? I won't keep the baby from seeing my mil but idk why it isn't enough to visit the baby with me there?
Also, my husband used to stay over his grandmothers alot since his mom was a single mom and needed the help. I on the other hand didnt grow up sleeping over my grandparents house very often. Maybe once in awhile if my parents had an event but not just for fun. She seems to think the baby will just be staying with her for fun and she going to be in for a rude awakening bc that isn't happening!
Married: 5/09 ~ TTC Since: 10/10 ~ PCOS ~ Progesterone from 10/10 - 2/11 ~ HSG on 3/18 - Clear ~ Started Metformin 1000mg & Clomid 50mg 2/11 ~ Metformin upped to 1500mg 4/6 ~ 6/7 Now going to SG and put on Clomid, Ovidrel, Gonal F, Prometrium, Estrace ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP!!!!!! March 6th our little man was born.
6/17/13 - Ovidrel, Follistim, Prometrium ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP! March 17th our St. Pattys day baby arrived
10/29/17 - Started process for IVF, got pregnant & miscarried a 2nd time since summer. 2/22 started stims - Menopur, Gonal F, Cetrotide - retrieval 3/6 - , PIO, estrace 3xday - FET 4/18 = Beta 1: 616; Beta 2: 1342 = BFP
akb1125: It would absolutely be LESS stressful if they just waited for the announcement that baby girl has arrived... Especially if we are not allowing anyone right into the Labor & Delivery room anyway. Seems like a lot of waiting in an uncomfortable place for a long period of time. I am also 100% on board with you about wondering why it has become such a huge deal to get the baby alone without me. Not saying it won't happen and I also can't say WHEN it will happen, but I'm not even thinking about that right now. She isn't even here yet and I already get sad thinking I'll have to leave her eventually. Growing up we also didn't spend a TON of one-on-one time with grandparents. Not even my husband did, only for holidays and get-togethers, etc. I'm not opposed to it, but again, I think because they live so close they almost expect it and expect it WAY too often.
mcgeeva: You're right. Just because the in-laws still baby us doesn't mean we aren't adults and also expect them to act that way. It's a trade-off and trust must be earned. Also, you make a good point about complications. I, too, have heard about and understand that things don't ALWAYS go as planned. It's true that I may not be capable to have or even feel up to having visitors for a while at the hospital depending on mine and baby's circumstances. I think I will bring up the option of waiting at home to hear from us that all went well. The Facebook thing REALLY bothered me because I am more of a private person. And I feel she just posts stuff to boast in OUR glory. I can always request it, but can't expect they'll respect it. I forget that just because I wouldn't do something to someone doesn't mean others don't feel that same way.
Disneygeek77: It would be really helpful for hubby to relay these thoughts/feelings, but he gets so nervous about hurting anyone's feelings. There has been a time where my mother-in-law has said, right in front of me to her son, "Well, do YOU feel that way?" I just feel like he is a grown man and we have a very open relationship. By her doing that she just plays him against me, which is so unhealthy. If she thinks she is protecting him she is actually hurting him by interferring in his relationship. If has issues he'll address me with them. And I am not just bossing him around, we're married; we're a partnership. He wants me to be happy just as much as he wants his mother to be happy. She just gets in his head. I also respect your suggestion to give them jobs that make them feel needed. I know that's all they really want is to be involved. She did offer to make some meals ahead of time for us to freeze so that hubby can re-heat easily once we get home. I told her that would be very nice and so helpful and thanked her. She immediately followed by saying, "Or, I could always drop them by..." (Ay-yi-yi) I knew that's what she was getting at. Again, I'll be open to visits, but it is not an open-door policy. Anyway, you're so right. I'll let them know of things I will need help with. They are always so giving and will love to help so they'll enjoy knowing I'll need them for some things here and there.
Honestly. Quit discussing this all with them. The more you engage it, the worse it gets.
To everything she says, the appropriate response is, "Thanks. I'll take into future consideration but right now we have a plan we're okay with."
As for the baby room, let the safe stuff slide. My mom and MIL both have one and it's great. Less sh*t for me to drag and kid is comfy. It's not so weird and I find it more helpful than controlling.
With the hospital, there's no need to convey your wishes. If you want them around call when you're ready and invite them up. If they get in the way/annoy you have the nurses kick them out.
There's no need to convey your wishes in detail. Your kid. Your choice. Fight it out if and when it happens.
Don't waste time explaining or justifying. It just fuels the fire.
disneygeek77:
I do have a pet lizard that they feed when we go on vacation. Maybe they wouldn't mind popping in to feed him, maybe grab the mail while we are at the hospital (on their way to/from the hospital after delivery day). I'm sure there will be little things that we forget to bring or will decide we need and we could send them. They do love to help!
The whole dinner thing is a great idea because she LOVES to cook and she is a real good cook (Italian). If she doesn't drop it by before the baby comes and wants to stop by to deliver dinner and see the baby, that's fine. I just didn't know if she'd then want to bring dinner EVERY night and intrude on our alone time. So I do like your idea of having hubby thank her and let her know that we would prefer dinner alone on the nights that we aren't up to having them over. It kind of helps that we only have a studio apartment right now so there really isn't space for them to come over and eat dinner with us and stay all night.
Also, we have had issues with my mil on Facebook too! She overshares way too much and I had to coordinate when we told her we were pregnant and when we wanted to announce to the world. She's fb friends with all of my husbands friends from hs (why? I have no idea). We wanted to tell people ourselves not by her announcing it herself on fb so we were pretty much forced to do a fb announcement.
LFAF Summer 2016 Awards:
Your h needs to man up a bit. He should be more worried about his pregnant wife's feelings than theirs. A LOT of these are on him. They shouldn't need to be told to "leave him alone", "don't ask him to visit the waiting room or give updates", or "don't ask him to hold baby if I'm being stitched post c section". He should want to be with you and ignore their calls or texts and if they try to get him to stay in the waiting room should ignore that and immediately return to you. He would need to give permission for them to hold baby so he needs to be strong and not let them hold baby before you.
He may not want to hurt their feelings, but he should want to hurt your feelings less. A lot of this wouldn't be an issue if he just ignored their games.... And if he said, firmly, "WE are a team and WE agree" every time his mom said "what do you think?"
His mom asks that and asks him to do things because he will. He's the only one who can fix that.
It's your first child!
The only reason we told my mum I was in labour was because she was at home looking after our first child and this time will be looking after DS.
My mil is an interfering selfish woman so we didn't tell her last time and we won't tell her this time.
She will get a phone call from DH and depending on how I'm feeling she might be able to come to the hospital.
I'm sorry, but GROW SOME BALLS!!!!! Don't let your mil dictate what you do. And have your husband stand up for you.
Breastfeeding Counselor with Breastfeeding USA
Babywearing Guide ** Newborn Carriers
Cloth Diaper Guide
Safe Bed Sharing Info
Thank you ALL for the wonderful insight and suggestions. I don't feel so crazy! This whole topic kind of sprouted and took over in my mind because months ago she said--via text message, might I add--that they would LOVE to be in the waiting room at the hospital. Even then I told her that my husband and I hadn't even considered any of that yet and that we'd discuss at a later time in person. She was taken back by my response, but I was being honest. If she expected a, "Yeah! Sure!" She's terribly mistaken because she knows I am a more private, independent person than that and that I have boundaries. That's probably actually why she sent that message via text cuz she didn't want an in-person rejection :-/. I actually never would have even thought of it becoming a big "thing" if it weren't for that first comment about the hospital. It's like they almost expect to be there rather than care to ask if it's something we'd like/mind. Now my husband also feels like if we DON'T call them until after the baby is here that they would be EXTREMELY hurt and upset, which I understand since they spoke up about it. However, if they'd like to know that we're admitted and in the process of delivering then they will have to respect our wishes and act appropriately; not show up until invited, no interferring via contstant calls/texts or our cell phones WILL be shut off, respecting that we want alone time after delivery, and respecting our wishes to share the news with our friends and family first.
As a result of this post and the advice receieved, I did express my sincerest concerns/wishes with my husband who seems to understand my reasoning for wanting to do the things the way I do. He seems to be supportive as I'm trying not to be so extreme and cut his family out of the situation. It's true, though, that you never know what's going to happen before, during, or after labor. There is no need for added stress about a situation that can be avoided altogether and unfortunately my mother-in-law is the root of many of my stresses (about baby and about other things). It's just her personality and I'm not willing to make the day about HER. If she can agree to our wishes, though, I'm happy to include them in the process, but that doesn't mean that their attendance is necessary or even welcomed. I'll have to update when we have "the talk"... If we do.
Thanks again, everyone! Just under 3 weeks until our sweet baby girl is here in the flesh :-)
I wish i could say it got better after baby but it didn't . Get worse for me as they were always calling and complaining that they don't see baby enough and they were seeing her once a week maybe every other week if we were busy or just needed a break. I'm nervous for them this time again. I think if you give in now you are setting a precedent to always give in and trust me you don't want to do that.
Also you are the mom. You make the rules. But remember you should be thankful your baby has two sets of grandparents that love them and know that some kids will never get to know their grandparents. Also their grandparents won't be alive forever. So if they are willing to help you out, take full advantage. Everything they do is out of love. Once you have your baby here you will understand that perhaps in 25yrs you might be the overbearing mil lol. Good luck !
It was also a competition about how much my mom saw her, who im extremely close to and saw every week prior to baby and talked to her multiple times a day. With In laws we saw them maybe once every 4-6 weeks before baby so this was a huge change and not what I expected. It was horrible and honestly I look at them differently now.
Hubby thinks this time will be different as we worked it out after DD (so he says). I'm not convinced and dreading it again
Haven't read all of the comments but I feel so close to everything you wrote. My ILs live 5 min away and are very involved in our lives. I have to say that they don't do the drop-in visits often but it's been a constant fear of mine. My house is tiny- less than 800 sqft- and isn't the most comfortable for entertaining- for obvious reasons. We were supposed to get another couch this January (we just have a loveseat right now) but I've been putting it off because I don't want people to be too comfortable when they visit. I'm a terrible person I know but I want my time with my kids!
I would definitely wait to call anyone before the baby arrives and you are prepared for visitors. But also, work with the hospital or just blame the hospital. I would blatantly lie and say something like "Oh, our hospital is part of the baby/family friendly movement and has certain restrictions." Our hospital really does have "quiet hours" which are meant just for the newborn's mom and dad- not even siblings are allowed during those hours. I have already made it clear that I want privacy for breastfeeding and have explained the skin to skin time for the ILs so that they know what to expect and moreso, what to expect when they're not there. It's not like they're going to miss out on some raging party- it's just me with my ta-tas hanging out!
My MIL also is obsessed with changing diapers and wants to see our nursery but we keep explaining that we're going to wait to purchase the cribs until after the shower (BrUs offers cash back and we think we'll use that cash for that purchase- I don't see anyone buying it for us) and at that point after the babies are born since they'll be in their bassinets.
I just keep telling my ILs that "when you make plans, God laughs." I thank them constantly for offering to help but we'll just take it one day at a time when the babies get here and if they have to wait to visit, then they have to wait. If they're disappointed, sorry but at least they won't be surprised!
ELM77: I don't know HOW you do it. While I do love my in-laws and know they mean well by always being willing to help out, I am one independent woman and need my space. I feel accomplished and proud about the way my husband and I live our lives without people telling us how to live or always butting in. If they lived next door I would have to move, without a doubt! And what your MIL is telling you about weight gain is not cool at all! I have gained 40 lbs and I am proud to have a happy, healthy baby still. That is just a 'no-no' and none of their business, quite frankly. Sorry to hear!
I appreciate your insight about how to really "handle" the in-laws. It's going to come down to that, I just know it. And while I know all of their wanting to be involved stems from excitement, no one can really foresee that day (or days) until it's here and I just don't want to make any promises about calling or inviting them to the hospital or visiting until that moment. That way I'm not held to anything and can always change my mind depending on the circumstances.
Update on the whole situation: My husband stops at his in-law's periodically and I sensed they have brought up the hospital situation as my due date is a few days away. I just hadn't heard about it yet. I asked my husband if they have brought it up and he nonchalantly said, 'Yeah, they mentioned it.' He told me that he asked them if they'd really want us to call even if it's 3am (which I responded by saying it's not meant to be a question of whether or not THEY want us to, it's not their choice... WE would decide if/when we notify or not regardless of time of day). He also said he relayed the agreed upon plan to just let them know once I'm admitted and told them about the lengthy procedures and alone time directly after the baby is born.
I feel guilty for feeling this way and for saying this, but I doubted how firm he was and doubted that it came off as 'these are mine and my wife's wishes, no exceptions' so in the midst of a text conversation with my MIL later that evening I brought it up to her. This is our conversation:
Me: [My husband's name] said he explained the hospital plan with you today. It sounds like we're all set and on the same page.
MIL: You mean when you go into have baby? What did he tell you?
Me: Yeah, when we go to the hospital. He said he explained calling and timing and hospital procedure post-birth, etc.
MIL: Yes, you mean we can't see little girl for a few hours after birth. We just wanted to know when you were going in but realize we have to wait. (Much can be misconstrued through text, sure, but I wasn't sure her demeanor behind this comment. However I'm taking it at face value and expecting that she does understand they just have to wait to hear from us. That is our goal.)
Me: Yeah, we discussed informing family when we are admitted... Then new moms and dads are given some private bonding time with the little one and the hospital will complete testing and lactation consulting and clean baby up, etc. That can take up to a few hours after birth.
MIL: We understand. When you are able and ready to have company [my husband's name] will let us know...
Me: We will let you know. You know how it goes, too. You can't plan out that day much especially beforehand or really foresee the circumstances until you're in the situation. Baby is fully in charge.
MIL: Exactly, time will tell soon enough. You two will be flying high but you need your time together too (I wasn't sure exactly what she meant there as there have been times she comments about us wanting a break from it all, but I will just appreciate her comment about needing time together)
Me: Thanks :-) It will be a good day. We are looking forward to it...
It SOUNDS like they get it, so I am more confident that they won't just overstep boundaries now. HOPEFULLY! If they get offended later on, it is their own fault because they now know where we stand.
Since then, though, my doctor has told me that labor has not progressed in the least (my due date is in 3 days) so she may go past term. They would induce one week after to the day. When we learned this I asked that my husband NOT inform them of that day because I still want the freedom and ability to notify them only IF and WHEN we're ready. The same wishes still apply. It may seem a little selfish not to queue them in now that we have a set plan, but I don't feel guilty at all. I still would like that freedom to inform if I want and would like to refrain from having people waiting impatiently in the waiting room.
My hope is that when my husband sees what labor entails he will be reminded that he should be most concerned about me and baby and respect the privacy I have requested all this time. I have been fair and even told my sister (who lives 4 hours away) the same wishes. She is going to respect my privacy, too, even THOUGH having her at the hospital wouldn't bother me because she is less intrusive than his family. She will only come when asked.
SO, to all of you who have said, just don't tell them, I agree with that for the most part. If they want to be made aware that I am admitted and then that baby is here, they will also be reminded that we aren't ready for visitors just yet but that we will notify them when we are. I am also fully prepared to utilize hospital staff to make sure there are no "surprises!" I think that is the most responsible, honest, and fair thing to say/do especially not knowing what all could happen on that day.
Thanks for all of your support and advice!
@-)
Parents care about their children when they're in scary situations and I only had my husband in the delivery room with my first child and I thought it was silly that my parents and his parents and my grandparents all wanted to sit in a waiting room for 15+ hours... but looking back on it, of course they did, they want to be around in case either of their children need them and then to meet the new addition. After the baby was born, my husband and I got to cuddle and snuggle and I got to breastfeed and even eat something, then we had parents come up 2 at a time for about 10 minutes each and then they gave us our privacy until the next day.
Also in regards to the cell phone, no one text my husband, but he pretty much sent an hourly text to the parents with something like, "mom and baby still doing well, doctor just came in to check on her," etc. They still talk about how nice it was to know how I was doing and that I wasn't in any trouble. Once pushing started, he absolutely put his phone down and focused on me.
Anyway I know people can be annoying and intrude... but you can still have the kind of day you want and just remember that they're excited too, they just express themselves in a way that bugs the crap out of you. Haha
Good luck!!!