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sleep training day 2 (updated and a question)

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edited February 2014 in Success after IF
I never thought sleep training would be so exhausting lol. This is really a ramble sorry. Last night A went down at 8pm and slept till midnight. He woke up in his crib, sat up and cried....and cried...and cried. I went in tried to calm him by telling him I was there. I did the pat the butt, massage his back, everything.  Finally I gave up and left the room for a bit. 10 minutes later I sent DH in to try and calm A. Well A was not having it he just screamed his little head off. So heart breaking. After 45 minutes of crying I picked him up and calmed him down enough where he was awake but asleep. I continued to lay him back down in the crib where again he started to cry...ughhh. I waited about 5 minutes, patted his bottom and by 1am he was asleep whoorah. A slept till 5:30am which was a big accomplishment so I fed him and then he went back to sleep till 7am. Tonight he went down at 7:30am almost asleep, he has already woke up one time but I promised myself i would wait 10 minutes before going in and in  about 7 minutes he put himself to sleep. Awaiting the next cry out but I think we may be getting somewhere. Wish me luck on day 2. Thank you @ robeano for the ebook again.
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Re: sleep training day 2 (updated and a question)

  • Good luck! My LO is two weeks older than A and we just did sleep training last weekend. We had a week from hell last week where she was up almost every hour......then she would be snoring on my shoulder, so I would put her down and she would be crying 20 minutes later. We did the straight cry it out. There has been a few tough spots but overall it's made a really big difference, although she still keeps waking up at 3AM which is frustrating me even though we don't get out of bed for it. I hope tonight goes better for you!


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    ET - 7/17 - 1 blast transferred. Beta - 7/26 273, Beta 2 7/30 - 1143. Beta 3 8/6 - 11,597
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  • You can do it!! Good luck tonight. Night 1 was the worst for us and it just went up from there!

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    November '11 ~ IVF#1 ~ ER 11/18 (29R, 17F) ~ 5dt of one beautiful blast on 11/23 = BFP!!

    Beta #1 9dp5dt = 116, P4 = 28 ~ Beta #2 13dp5dt = 700 ~ Beta #3 20dp5dt = 9500, P4 = 26

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    ~ More testing - hysteroscopy, endometrial biopsy & more b/w - all normal / negative~

    Surprise BFP while waiting on FET #3 ~ beta #1 500; beta #2 1600; first u/s 4/3 - measuring 5w5d, no hb yet!; 2nd u/s 4/10 - hb 132, measuring 6w6d - EDD 11.29.14 :)    **TEAM GREEN!**

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  • So glad it's working for you. Sleep training is so hard, but so worth it!!
    Diagonsed PCOS TTC since May 2009
    First M/C December 2010 Second M/C August 2011
    Oct 2011~Second round clomid 50 mg; BFN
    Nov 2011~Third round clomid 50 mg: BFP
    Dec 11- Beta #1 91;Dec 13- Beta #2 186.2
    Dec 27- third miscarriage
    May 25th- Beta #1 369;May 27th- Beta #2 798
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  • GL tonight! FWIW, we tried the method of going in to comfort DS while sleep training, but that actually made him more awake and more angry. In the end, we had to do straight crying with no comforting, and that worked in just a few nights. Hardest nights of my life, but he's STTN ever since with no looking back. 
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    Feb 2012: IUI #1 w/ only 1M sperm and a single follie = BFP! 
    Nov 2012: Little buddy born in Kenya
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    Dec 2013: IUI cycle canceled for non-response
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  • Update.  A slept till 330a then cried and cried. I gave in...I know I know, and BF him. He actually ate for 10 minutes so I feel like he was starving.  How can I eliminate these MOTN feedings...do I just let him CIO
    Confirmed Pregnancy 9/18/2010 M/C 10/27/2010 BLIGHTED OVUM 10/2011 - HSG 2 blocked tubes 11/4/2011 - Lap Surgery - Extensive tubal disease (tubes opened) 1/3/12 - Repeat HSG (L tube open, R tube blocked) 1/15/12 - R tube removed Started Stim Injections 2/17/12 Follistim 300iu and Low Dose HCG 10 units Trigger - 2/25/12 ER 2/27/12 ET - 5 dt - 3/3/12 1 blast transferred 9 frosties BETA #1 - 626 :) Beta #2 - 2470 :) Beta #3 - 5470 3/29/12 - 6wks 3 days - no yolk sac, embie, or hb :( Blighted Ovum 8/3/12 - FET #1 1 flickering blast transferred 8/9/12 - POAS + 8/15/12 - Beta #1 1400 Beta #2 3200 8/20/12 - U/S 5 wks 1 day Yolk Sac seen 8/28/12 - 6wks 2 days - Heartbeat 116 9/4/12 - 7wks 3 days - HB 136 YAY! TEAM BLUE! Alex was born 4/15/13 5:09pm 6lb 10oz 20in!

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  • When we first started sleep training, DS would legitimately be hungry if he woke up anytime after 3am. If it was around that time, we'd feed him. Anytime before and we'd let him cry it out. After a while, he dropped at last feeding by himself and slept right through.

    I'm on mobile - how old is your LO?

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    IUI #1&2 = BFN; IUI #3 = BFP, m/c @ 6 weeks

    November '11 ~ IVF#1 ~ ER 11/18 (29R, 17F) ~ 5dt of one beautiful blast on 11/23 = BFP!!

    Beta #1 9dp5dt = 116, P4 = 28 ~ Beta #2 13dp5dt = 700 ~ Beta #3 20dp5dt = 9500, P4 = 26

    1st u/s 12/27 - hb of 156!! EDD 8.10.12 :)   **TEAM GREEN!**

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    FET #1 - October '13 - c/p   l   FET #2 - December '13 - cancelled :(   l   FET #2.2 - 1.30.14 - BFN

    ~ More testing - hysteroscopy, endometrial biopsy & more b/w - all normal / negative~

    Surprise BFP while waiting on FET #3 ~ beta #1 500; beta #2 1600; first u/s 4/3 - measuring 5w5d, no hb yet!; 2nd u/s 4/10 - hb 132, measuring 6w6d - EDD 11.29.14 :)    **TEAM GREEN!**

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  • I was going to ask how old too. If LO is old enough to not actually need that MOTN feed, you can start by limiting the length of the feed. 10 minutes one night, 9 the next, etc. Like @ccam, I wouldn't allow feeding before a certain time. If it was before 2, mh had wake up duty bc it limited the opportunity for boob. If it was after 2, I would nurse and put her back in bed. Prior to sleep training I would bring her to bed with me when she woke up after 2.
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    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
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  • LO is 9.5 months
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  • pb_bridepb_bride member
    edited February 2014
    I night weaned M when he was 5 months. M was waking up once a night then, but the times he woke up were totally random, like 11pm one night, then 4 am the next, then 1 am the next etc. I thought if he were hungry, he would be waking up around the same time every night,  plus, Ferber said most full term babies don't need MOTN feedings by 5 months. His opinion is that after 5 months, babies wake up to nurse due to habit.  Yes, they are hungry but that's is because they have been trained to get hungry at that time. 

    Anyway, Ferber has a whole chapter on weaning MOTN.  Like PPs said, you have to set a cut off time first. Say 2am, then no nursing prior to 2am. Then you push that time 30 minutes late each night, so tomorrow night, no nursing prior to 2:30am, and so on.

    P.S. Whatever method you decided to go with, please be consistent.  If you do one thing one night, then something else on a second night, then a third thing on third night, your LO will just be confused, and lengthens the sleep training process. 
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  • Sounds like you are doing great.  We sleep trained about three weeks ago and it is getting better the longer we have done it.  I agree it's so hard when you hear them crying you want to run in there but we have realized that a lot of the time he will fall back asleep - hope it keeps getting better and everyone gets a little more sleep ;)

    Me 38 MH 41 - TTC since June 2010 - dx with Severe MFI. Straight to IVF with ICSI. IVF #1 - ER 06/13/12 - 9 Eggs Retrieved - 4 ICSI'd - only 2 fert. 06/15/12 - 2DT - 3 cell & 6 cell with fragmentation. Beta 06/29/12 - IVF #1 = BFN. 07/20/12 - WTF Appt -Told by our RE to quit IVF. Second Opinion from RE is good. IVF#2 - November 2012. Estradiol Pills Started 11/6. Stims start 11/16. ER 11/26 - 7 eggs retrieved - all mature. 4 fertilized with ICSI. ET 11/29 Transferred 3 embryos. Beta is 12/10. 1st Beta 81 2nd Beta 160 and 3rd beta 360!!! First U/S 12/21/12 - We saw one beautiful gest. sac. 2nd U/S is 01/04/2013 - H/B 183 02/05/13 - NT Scan - everything looks good and IT'S A BOY!  Aiden was born 08/20/2013.

    IVF #2 is in progress.  ER was 05/12/14 - 11 eggs retrieved, 8 fertilized with ICSI.  ET was 05/15/14 - we transferred 3 embryos as we did on the cycle my son was conceived.  We were able to freeze 3 embryos. Beta is scheduled for 05/26/14.  1st beta - 111.  2nd beta - 159 didn't double :( 3rd beta Friday 5/30) - not a lot of hope left. Beta # 3 is 247 - probably ectopic.  Beta # 4 is 813 - possibly vanishing multiple sydrome?  06/05/14 - 5w4days - first U/S - we see a gestational sac and yolk - still have hope!  06/17/14 - 7w1day - U/S and saw and heard the heartbeat - Finally!  06/27/14 - 8w4days - Baby and heartbeat look and sound great :)  EDD 02/01/14 and It's a boy!


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  • TJ1979 said:
    I was going to ask how old too. If LO is old enough to not actually need that MOTN feed, you can start by limiting the length of the feed. 10 minutes one night, 9 the next, etc. Like @ccam, I wouldn't allow feeding before a certain time. If it was before 2, mh had wake up duty bc it limited the opportunity for boob. If it was after 2, I would nurse and put her back in bed. Prior to sleep training I would bring her to bed with me when she woke up after 2.
    This is what I did. The first night, I let him eat all he wanted, and I counted the seconds. It was like 700 seconds. So the second night, I counted to 650 and put him back down. The third night, 600. And so on, until I saw that he was accepting to eat for like 2 minutes, at which point I knew that he was waking up from habit and not from hunger. I definitely wouldn't have had the guts to cut his last night feeding cold turkey. My resolve would have cracked if I'd thought that he was in there hungry.
    DH and I are Americans living an adventure in Kenya since 2011
    DX: PCOS (annovulatory)
    Feb 2012: IUI #1 w/ only 1M sperm and a single follie = BFP! 
    Nov 2012: Little buddy born in Kenya
    Nov 2013: Trying for a second, still w PCOS
    Dec 2013: IUI cycle canceled for non-response
    Jan 2014: Break cycle BFP!

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  • We Ferbered at around 5 months so our situations would be a little different.  DS was also waking up at random times at night and then would occasionally sleep through until the morning.  So we knew he could do it.  He wasn't hungry, it was more of a habit.  If we gave him a bottle, he would inhale it but he did not need it.  He just needed to learn to put himself back to sleep instead of relying on a bottle and us rocking him to sleep.  

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    Trying for #1 since May 2010   l   DX ~ Unexplained Infertility June 2011

    IUI #1&2 = BFN; IUI #3 = BFP, m/c @ 6 weeks

    November '11 ~ IVF#1 ~ ER 11/18 (29R, 17F) ~ 5dt of one beautiful blast on 11/23 = BFP!!

    Beta #1 9dp5dt = 116, P4 = 28 ~ Beta #2 13dp5dt = 700 ~ Beta #3 20dp5dt = 9500, P4 = 26

    1st u/s 12/27 - hb of 156!! EDD 8.10.12 :)   **TEAM GREEN!**

    Sweet baby boy born 8.18.12

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    Trying for #2

    FET #1 - October '13 - c/p   l   FET #2 - December '13 - cancelled :(   l   FET #2.2 - 1.30.14 - BFN

    ~ More testing - hysteroscopy, endometrial biopsy & more b/w - all normal / negative~

    Surprise BFP while waiting on FET #3 ~ beta #1 500; beta #2 1600; first u/s 4/3 - measuring 5w5d, no hb yet!; 2nd u/s 4/10 - hb 132, measuring 6w6d - EDD 11.29.14 :)    **TEAM GREEN!**

    Beautiful baby girl born 11.24.14

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