s/o hepatitis vaccine question (not me, someone I know)

Speshul · January 2014

Someone I know is currently pregnant. She said she will not be getting the hepatitis vaccine when the baby is born and will be delaying it (I don't know how long). Because the odds of a baby getting hepatitis are small and she does not have it. She says hepatitis is a problem at a later age, not in babies.

I told her obviously they want you get for a reason. She asked if I researched the reasons. I did not research the reasons. My mom was a carrier and didn't know it so I got them no questions asked because anyone can be a carrier. I didn't mention it but a lot of my family works in the medical field and comes in contact with tons of patients and strangers, thus increasing the risk one of them could be a carrier.

Part of me wants to be like...well the odds are small because babies are vaccinated??? I'm not going to debate her now because it's pointless. Knowing her I'm going to take a guess that government sources wouldn't work anyway.

ETA: I guess the question is, what should have I said?

Rowcate · January 2014

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hepb/fs-parents.html

Edit: posted too soon. I just don't understand why people would want to risk exposing people they care about to life long chronic illness. You probably won't change her mind. Good luck.

Speshul · January 2014

Rowcate said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hepb/fs-parents.html

Yes she claims her baby will not get hepatitis through any of those ways. To her it's only a risk to older children.

So I'm stumped. It's one of those when you debate with someone and then later think "Damnit I should have said something.", but I don't know what the something is.

BelhurstBride · January 2014

We delayed the first Hep B shot until the two month visit for both girls. My pedi and OB were both in agreement that it was fine and appropriate in our situation; DH nor I are infected so risk of infection was minimal. We were told Hep B is offered at birth for all babies because it is the only vax approved to be offered so young.

Speshul · January 2014

BelhurstBride said:

We delayed the first Hep B shot until the two month visit for both girls. My pedi and OB were both in agreement that it was fine and appropriate in our situation; DH nor I are infected so risk of infection was minimal. We were told Hep B is offered at birth for all babies because it is the only vax approved to be offered so young.

She sounded like she wanted to delay it for years, that's probably why I'm like eeek. My child might be in school with hers in a couple of years.

BelhurstBride · January 2014

Is your child vaxed?

Speshul · January 2014

Yes she is. Vaccines aren't 100% though. If enough people don't vaccinate it can affect my minion.

ETA: Maybe I'm just a little paranoid bc this the 3rd antivax person that I've discovered at work this month.

Rowcate · January 2014

@speshul Love google doctors. It fascinates me that people think they know more then trained and educated professionals because they used their googler. I am all for doing my own research and being aware of the risks and benefits but I am also very aware that I am not an expert on the subject. Sometimes you have to put a little faith in those who actually are experts. I do not understand the thought process behind thinking vaccinations are some conspiracy to cause harm.

Edit: If your doctor agrees to delay a couple months I see no problem with that. I see issue with delaying years until you feel they are at risk. I am not totally against a delayed schedule. As long as they get vaccinated.

Speshul · January 2014

These are all engineers...I would think they would understand the concept of legitimate sources. She is less conspiracy theory and more of a control freak. The other two were conspiracy theorists posting shit all over facebook.

BellaOso · January 2014

Meh. I think if someone is going to delay one for longer the Hep B is an okay one to delay, because of how it is transmitted.

I didn't. I'm not scared of vaccines. I did my research.

I think the best response is to shoulder shrug it and say, "Okay."

ELauren88 · January 2014

I'd be more concerned if she had said she wasn't going to vaccinate at all. Delaying is a personal preference.

Soleil3 · January 2014

We don't do Hep vax until older either. I did a lot of reading and considering the source, but this article sums up well what I found-

https://voices.yahoo.com/hepatitis-b-vaccine-risks-benefits-1812515.html?cat=70

Basically in 1996 there were 54 cases of hep in infants ages 0-1 and 1997 there were 47 cases that the vaccine caused death in infants 0-1. There are many other sources and information that went into my decision making process, but vaccine injury isn't something I mess around with.

Since they arent having sex, sharing needles, or exposed to blood on any sort of basis, it can wait until they are teens and exposed to such.

And that's all I'm saying about that

Soleil3 · January 2014

Rowcate said:

@speshul Love google doctors. It fascinates me that people think they know more then trained and educated professionals because they used their googler. I am all for doing my own research and being aware of the risks and benefits but I am also very aware that I am not an expert on the subject. Sometimes you have to put a little faith in those who actually are experts. I do not understand the thought process behind thinking vaccinations are some conspiracy to cause harm.

Edit: If your doctor agrees to delay a couple months I see no problem with that. I see issue with delaying years until you feel they are at risk. I am not totally against a delayed schedule. As long as they get vaccinated.

FTR, its not a conspiracy to cause harm, its the conspiracy that they want to push herd immunity and if there are casualties in that, then so be it. There's also the conspiracy theory involving the massive amount of money to be made by those enforcing all these medications.

kwrecks · January 2014

Soleil3 said:
We don't do Hep vax until older either. I did a lot of reading and considering the source, but this article sums up well what I found-
https://voices.yahoo.com/hepatitis-b-vaccine-risks-benefits-1812515.html?cat=70
Basically in 1996 there were 54 cases of hep in infants ages 0-1 and 1997 there were 47 cases that the vaccine caused death in infants 0-1. There are many other sources and information that went into my decision making process, but vaccine injury isn't something I mess around with.
Since they arent having sex, sharing needles, or exposed to blood on any sort of basis, it can wait until they are teens and exposed to such.

And that's all I'm saying about that

This.

We ate waiting for the hep vaccination too. We talked with her ped about it and there was no reason why we couldn't wait until she is school age.

mommabmb · January 2014

Our ped doesn't treat patients that won't follow a standard vaccine schedule. He's that passionate. I did my research, and I was fine with him getting it now or later... But went with now to keep our pediatrician. It's the only thing about the office that made me feel a little funny, but after hearing his reasoning I'm okay with it.

Rowcate · January 2014

Soleil3 said:

Rowcate said:

@speshul Love google doctors. It fascinates me that people think they know more then trained and educated professionals because they used their googler. I am all for doing my own research and being aware of the risks and benefits but I am also very aware that I am not an expert on the subject. Sometimes you have to put a little faith in those who actually are experts. I do not understand the thought process behind thinking vaccinations are some conspiracy to cause harm.

Edit: If your doctor agrees to delay a couple months I see no problem with that. I see issue with delaying years until you feel they are at risk. I am not totally against a delayed schedule. As long as they get vaccinated.

FTR, its not a conspiracy to cause harm, its the conspiracy that they want to push herd immunity and if there are casualties in that, then so be it. There's also the conspiracy theory involving the massive amount of money to be made by those enforcing all these medications.

Well yes, when you are right you're right, I am not going to argue that. It is definitely more about the almighty dollar. I get a little hyped up about the vaccinations and conspiracy theorist's because I know a few loonies that are constantly preaching and trying to shove that stuff down peoples throats. Sometimes it makes sense yet most of the time it craziness spewing from unreliable and often dead wrong sources.

I think delaying is not an issue. Some children have bad side effects from shots. My niece would get really high fevers and seizures. I am fortunate that DD has never had any side effects and so far none with the boy but we will see how he handles them in the future. I completely understand why some people need to spread them out and delay.

I apologize for going off on an emotional tangent. I fear for my children going to school with some of these unvaccinated kids. Especially now that my son may be vulnerable to whatever germs my DD's older schoolmates may be spreading around.

I have been a recovering addict for over 8 years, my husband 10. We unfortunately have seen a lot of Heptatitis and it scares the hell out of me but yes not a single one caught hep as a baby.

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