Trouble TTC

RE f/u-Moving on to IVF

edited January 2014 in Trouble TTC
We met with our RE today after 2 failed clomid IUIs.  Our diagnosis remains unexplained.  Because the question of when to move from IUIs to IVF came up recently, I thought it might be helpful to share my RE's opinions on the matter:

-He said we could try a 3rd clomid IUI.  In one of my cycles I had 2 follicles on 50 mg of clomid and only 1 in the other.  He said we could increase the dosage, but that an increase in the dosage would really only increase the side effects and not our chances of success.  He estimated that after 2 failed clomid IUIs, our likelihood of success on a 3rd was only 15%.

-We could move onto injects.  Given our history, he put our chances of success at only 18%.  He also said that the most likely outcome of an injects cycle was cancellation due to the risk of HOM.  ETA: He also said that the conventional method was to move from clomid to injects to IVF, but that new studies suggests skipping IUI w/ injects (I think he said this was especially true in cases where the dx is unexplained).

-We could move straight to IVF.  He thinks our chances of success from one cycle of IVF are close to 60%.  He also said that we'd be using essentially the same drugs in an IVF cycle as we would in an injects IUI cycle (different dosage) and his opinion is that if we are going to go through that we might as well go the route that is much more likely to be successful.

I really cannot believe that we are at this juncture already, but his explanation makes sense to us.  We'll be benched again in February for an SHG, mock transfer, injects class, and an in-depth review of our IVF plan with my PA.  In the meantime, I've got lots of new things to learn!
   


Me: 34 | He: 40
TTC since 08/2012
DX: DOR




Re: RE f/u-Moving on to IVF

  • jencity9jencity9 member
    edited January 2014
    Wow! That is a lot to take in, but the potential success rate sounds exciting! What is a mock transfer?

    Me: 32  DH: 33  Married: March 2004

    July 2006: started TTC
    2008: HSG (normal), couple rounds of clomid through gyno
    2008 - 2010: dragging my feet out of fear and procrastination
    October 2010: first consultation with RE, dx PCOS and fibroids (DH slightly low count/motility)
    Oct. 2010 - Dec. 2012:  In DENIAL! avoided the issue because I was scared of surgery
    January 2013: returned to RE, fibroids grew significantly
    February 2013: second HSG, fibroids pushed on tubes which blocked them somewhat
    March 2013: MRI to determine what type of surgery may be necessary

    July 29, 2013: fibroids (5) removed via robotic laparascopy
    August 2013 - Nov 2013 : benched due to recent surgery

    IUI #1, Dec. 24, 2013, BFN 
    IUI #2, Jan. 25, 2014, BFN
    IUI #3, Feb. 25, 2014  BFN
    IUI #4 canceled due to lack of response to letrozole
    IUI #4.1 April 28, 2014, BFN

    May 16, 2014: wtf consult, start prepping for IVF in June and add injects for one last IUI in the meantime
    IUI #5 started letrozole and bravelle but canceled after HSG led to new diagnosis

    May 21, 2014: third HSG, tubes blocked, one at the beginning, one hydrosalpinx??
    June 11, 2014: consult, approved to move on to IVF because the hydro is not completely blocked therefore allowing fluid to move through slowly rather than backwards
    IVF #1 August 8, 2014 - 3dt of 2 embryos, BFN
    September 17, 2014 - 4th HSG, the right tube is very patent (open!!) dye went straight through this time. Weird!
    October 2, 2014 - started metformin treatment
    November 14, 2014 - blood work, brought A1C down from 5.8 to 5.5

    November 26, 2014 - RE finally back from vaca and reviewed my chart, no more IVFs for rest of calendar year
    December 1, 2014 - Right after Thanksgiving, I called a new clinic and got in right away! Plan for IVF
    December 17, 2014 - ER! 29 retrieved (!!), 16 mature, all 16 fertilized (ICSI)

    IVF #2 December 20, 2014 - 3dt of 3 embryos, BFN

    We are done with treatment unsuccessfully. :(


    PAIF/SAIF/All Welcome!

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  • edited January 2014
    @jencity9 According to my little booklet, a mock transfer is used to "identify cervical or uterine irregularities."  It's supposed to measure my cervix and uterus.  I'm guessing they need that info in order to know where to place the embryo at transfer. 
    Me: 34 | He: 40
    TTC since 08/2012
    DX: DOR




  • I'm glad that you're moving forward with a good plan that you're comfortable with. Starting the IVF process with such great odds of success is very exciting, good luck!

    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker

    TTC since Sept 2011, Unexplained IF
    Oct 12 - Jan 14: 3 clomid/TI cycles, 2 hysteroscopies, 2 IUIs, 1 BFP (MMC @ 12w), 2 more IUIs
    Feb 14: Gonal-f + IUI #5 = BFP! (EDD 11/4/14)
    Baby boy arrived 11/13/14!

  • That is a lot!! Good luck to you. We are going to go with a 3rd IUI, but will then move on. Hope everything goes smoothly for you!

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    TTC since March 2012
    DX: MFI (4% motility)

    Cycle 13: Natural cycle w/ HSG test = BFP
    Identical twins! 
    Lost my angel boys at 10.5 weeks

    Cycle 14-16: Natural Cycles = BFN
    Cycle 17: Follistim + Trigger + IUI = BFN
    Cycle 18: Natural Cycle = BFN
    Cycle 19: Follistim + Trigger +IUI#2
    Polyp found: SIS 11/11 - hysteroscopy 11/14
    Cycle 20: Follistim + IUI#2 = BFFN
    Cycle 21: Follistim (adj. dosage) + IUI#3 TI  = BFN
    IUI cancelled due to weather
    Cycle 22: Follistim + IUI#3.1 = BFN

    Cycle 23: treatment break, IVF consult
    Cycle 24 - 26: natural cycle w/ acupuncture + Chinese herbs = BFN
    Cycle 27: Follistim + IUI#4 = BFFN
    Natural Cycles until IVF
    Cycle 30: IVF#1 - Starting with Menopur + Follistim + Ganirelix
    17 retrieved, 12 fertilized, 5dt w/ 2 blasts, 5 frosties

    Betas:  #1-156(9dp5dt), #2-1200(13dp5) #3-6112(17dp5)
    Ultrasound #1 10/6: 1 bean!
    TEAM BLUE!

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    ~~ALL WELCOME~~

    BabyFruit Ticker
  • Hugs to you... The success rate sounds very promising. I know it's a lot to digest, but I'm hoping this is successful for you.
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