Trouble TTC

--updated *Advice on how not to be a b*tch?

pcrumleypcrumley member
edited January 2014 in Trouble TTC
***pregnancy mentioned***Okay, so bare with me bc I'm typing this on my ipad. [and can't make paragraphs] ....I have to go out with a close friend tomorrow for lunch, she also happens to be my boss lol. .(who is 9 months pregnant )--I don't know if many of you keep up with my comments but --long story short (she knows about our IF, but when she asks about it, she is constantly rubbing her belly) she doesn't do it to rub it in my face but, she does it. Anyway tomorrow the lunch is just going to be me, and her. . We agreed to meet up bc she is about to go on maternity leave, and I never went to her shower (too difficult for me, also it was during a flare up from my AIMD. .) anyway I just wanna get the baby stuff outta my houseeee lol! So my question is, if she brings up IF how can I not be snippy, I can't help but look at her life and be so envious. . She has the job I want, the baby I want, and a banging body. . Did I mention she's like 120lbs pregnant? Yah! >:) ridiculous! ! So do any of you got some good advice on this touchy subject. . Ps: I love you all -here's a hunk for getting through my essay! Lol



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DH= burn vic, abn sa MFI|| ME= PCOS, Sarcoidosis, Hypohyroidism HSG-OK
tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
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Re: --updated *Advice on how not to be a b*tch?

  • JadziaDaxJadziaDax member
    edited January 2014
    What a difficult situation to be in! And you can't get out of it since you already missed the shower, 'cause my usual advice is "just don't go" lol. 

    In a way, you know what to expect so you can keep your guard up. Based on your past experiences with her, you know she will bring up IF and she will probably rub her stomach so my advice would be to just expect it and try to remain as calm as possible. I would probably tell her, "yeah, you know that story by now. Not much has changed" and just leave it at that. Or you can always tell her you are taking a break for a while and focusing on other things, even if it isn't true. She will be on maternity leave and you won't have to deal with her in your face all the time at work, so at least there's that to look forward to. 

    I'm sorry you have to deal with this and it sucks that she's your boss so you're kind of stuck dealing with this. So far, it sounds like you've been handling things pretty well. I hope it goes better tomorrow than expected. 

    Me and DH: 32, TTC since 2/2012
    Dx: lean PCOS, low hormone levels, 2 CP's before seeing RE, MTHFR heterozygous
    IUI #1 with clomid and ovidrel: BFN
    IUI #2 with clomid (unresponsive), femara, ovidrel and novarel: Possible CP
    IUI #3 with femara, ovidrel and novarel: BFN
    IUI #4 with Follistim (115 iu) and ovidrel= BFN, developed OHSS, benched- 2 weeks of birth control pills
    IUI #5 with Follistim (75iu) and ovidrel= BFN........Taking a medication break for a few months
    IUI #6 with Follistim (75iu) every other day, femara and Lupron trigger= BFN
    *Taking a long break to get healthy and research/prepare for IVF*
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  • Ugh that is really rough! Especially when they mean well but they still make it so difficult. Could you just do what the PP said and sort of say "oh not much has changed" and then change the subject? Or just be direct and say you really would rather not talk about it? I don't think that would be rude at all. Or just say it's difficult to talk about and right now you'd rather not?

    Me: 32  DH: 33  Married: March 2004

    July 2006: started TTC
    2008: HSG (normal), couple rounds of clomid through gyno
    2008 - 2010: dragging my feet out of fear and procrastination
    October 2010: first consultation with RE, dx PCOS and fibroids (DH slightly low count/motility)
    Oct. 2010 - Dec. 2012:  In DENIAL! avoided the issue because I was scared of surgery
    January 2013: returned to RE, fibroids grew significantly
    February 2013: second HSG, fibroids pushed on tubes which blocked them somewhat
    March 2013: MRI to determine what type of surgery may be necessary

    July 29, 2013: fibroids (5) removed via robotic laparascopy
    August 2013 - Nov 2013 : benched due to recent surgery

    IUI #1, Dec. 24, 2013, BFN 
    IUI #2, Jan. 25, 2014, BFN
    IUI #3, Feb. 25, 2014  BFN
    IUI #4 canceled due to lack of response to letrozole
    IUI #4.1 April 28, 2014, BFN

    May 16, 2014: wtf consult, start prepping for IVF in June and add injects for one last IUI in the meantime
    IUI #5 started letrozole and bravelle but canceled after HSG led to new diagnosis

    May 21, 2014: third HSG, tubes blocked, one at the beginning, one hydrosalpinx??
    June 11, 2014: consult, approved to move on to IVF because the hydro is not completely blocked therefore allowing fluid to move through slowly rather than backwards
    IVF #1 August 8, 2014 - 3dt of 2 embryos, BFN
    September 17, 2014 - 4th HSG, the right tube is very patent (open!!) dye went straight through this time. Weird!
    October 2, 2014 - started metformin treatment
    November 14, 2014 - blood work, brought A1C down from 5.8 to 5.5

    November 26, 2014 - RE finally back from vaca and reviewed my chart, no more IVFs for rest of calendar year
    December 1, 2014 - Right after Thanksgiving, I called a new clinic and got in right away! Plan for IVF
    December 17, 2014 - ER! 29 retrieved (!!), 16 mature, all 16 fertilized (ICSI)

    IVF #2 December 20, 2014 - 3dt of 3 embryos, BFN

    We are done with treatment unsuccessfully. :(


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  • Yeah, thanks ladies those are some good options! :-SS



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    tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
    TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
    2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
    FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
    MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
    [[all welcome !!!!!!!!!!!! ]]
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  • Hopeful1029Hopeful1029 member
    edited January 2014
    BFP MENTIONED......NOT MINE. Ugh, how shitty.....I'm sorry you're going to have to deal with this :( you definitely know she'll bring it up....I had a similar situation with someone I actually was going through IF with, so to speak. We had both been ttc x12 months and she ended up with a BFP. She asks intermittently about "what's new" with me, and I know it's not malicious and it's pure concern and love, but it sucks to talk about regardless! So, I've found myself saying "I'm really not up for talking about it today" and the topic drops. It's not that I don't want to talk to someone, but I really don't want to talk to someone who isn't going through the troubles I am. I found it to be a super easy "out" for me, hope it helps. P.S. if you find yourself getting overwhelmed with all the baby-ness, start to focus on the not-so-good things about her, no matter how small or petty....are her fingernails a hot mess? Does she have a chin hair or a slight shadow of a mustache? Does she have any gray hair popping out? Food stuck in her teeth?? Lol not trying to be catty, but if you're feeling suddenly overwhelmed and sad, a slight distraction might help ;)

    Me:Hypothyroid DH: Type II diabetic. Together since 03/2007, Married 10/2011, D/C bc 10/2011. TTC: 11/2011. Charted BBT and CV along with OPK 10/2011-02/2012 Baseline labs 02/2012 WNL, SA 03/2012: botched sample by lab - destroyed hubby's confidence. 04/2012 Clomid 05/2012 Clomid 06/2012 Clomid 07/2012 Clomid and Ovidrel 08/2012 Ovidrel (I never knew that I was supposed to be monitored while on meds...I never was. I asked for u/s and other tests to see why we weren't getting pregnant, doc just kept giving me meds and telling me to go to his church for a "laying of hands") Stopped all monitoring/testing/temps, etc, Sex became a chore and we started to grow apart. At 12 mos I decided to look for another doc. 02/2013 consult with new doc....3 days later testing began...u/s, all good, HSG: all good, labs: all good, ovulating, etc. Started on Pregnitude. 04/2013 failed attempt for SA, 05/2013 failed attempt SA. 12/2013 SA: 3% morph, abnormal functionality. DH started Pycnogenol. RE consult 01/15/2014.

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  • I would go and give her the gift at the end. Leave it in the car. Don't have her open it with you. When you get there, talk about the holidays and work. Talk about work gossip that will distract her. Apologize for not making the shower and tell her about your flare-up.
    Ask questions about her that won't warrant a huge "I'm delivering a baby" conversation. Ask her if her DH is off for a long time from work, if she's taking extra time after maternity.

    If things get too heavy for you, excuse yourself to the bathroom, re-group and come back with a different conversation to have.

    You can do this, even though it's difficult.
    10/2013 - Initial consult. Started levothyroxine - tsh 2.92
    HSG- showed graying in one spot/Saline Sono- showed 5mm polyp
    DH SA -  abnormal -  36%motility on both SA's (count and morph ok on SA1, a little off SA2)
    1/10/14 - Hysteroscopy to remove 5mm polyp
    1/12/14- Medicated Cycle 1: 50mg Clomid + Ovidrel + TI = BFN
    2/15/14 - Medicated Cycle 2: 100mg Clomid + Ovidrel + TI = BFN
    3/18/14 - IUI Cycle 1: 150mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFN
    Upped Levothyroxine to 50mg - tested at 2.62
    4/17/14 - IUI Cycle 2: 150mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFN
    Break!
    6/21/14: IUI Cycle 3: 150mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI

    *All are welcome*




  • "It's a bit of a sensitive topic at the moment, and I don't really want to get I to it now." ::change subject to something else::

    That's what I'd do (actually, I'd probably bail, but it sounds like you're set on going). Good luck!
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    Dx: Poor Embryo Quality, Arcuate Uterus, Poor Uterine Blood Flow, Mild Endo, 
           Protein S Deficiency, Sjorgen's Syndrome 

    IUI #1-5: BFN
    Laparoscopy & Hysteroscopy: minimal endo, partial septoplasty
    IVF #1: 10R/6M/6F ~ Day 3 ET = BFN
    IVF #2: 14R/9M/5F ~ transfer canceled ~ all embryos arrested at 1-2 cell stage
    IVF #3: 9R/5M/5F ~ 1 frosty!
    IVF #4 (FET #1): BFN

    IVF #5 (DE IVF #1 with Dr. KK protocol): Currently PREGNANT!!!!!!
    Synthroid + Prednisone + Metformin + Baby Aspirin + Supplements Galore = 15+ pills a day
    Lupron + Lovenox + Delestrogen + IVIG + B/W = 2-5 pokes a day
    19R, 17M, 17F - transferred two Grade A blasts 11/16, four frosties!!!
    Beta #1 11/24 (13dpo/8dp5dt) = 367 ~ Beta #2 11/26 (15dpo/10dp5dt) = 709
    Beta #3 11/29 (18dpo/13dp5dt) = 1,997 ~ Beta #4 12/1 (20dpo/15dp5dt) = 3,403

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  • DharmaChickDharmaChick member
    edited January 2014

    calindi said:
    You're probably not going to be able to get through the lunch without talking about her pregnancy and pending baby, so figure out which subjects are the easiest for you to deal with, and which ones are hot button issues, and try to steer the conversation in a direction that's easiest for you.  If something gets hard, just change the subject to something else you can deal with.   With my very pregnant friend, talking about showers and gifts from people (especially cute outfits) was very hard for me, so I talked about car seat safety and breastfeeding, which for whatever reason seemed easier that day to handle (probably because it didn't make me envious that her boobs are about to hurt a lot and nipples chaffed ;-) )
    ^This! I have found that this works for me too.  I find that the cute/fun stuff is what hurts, but discussing some of the mundane/less-enviable details is a lot easier.
    ________
    ME: 34, Atypical PCOS (lean, no O without meds) + unexplained; DH: 33, mildly low motility
    09/2012: Start TTC after stopping NuvaRing.  No cycles seemed to occur.
    01/2013 - 05/2013: Tried Provera to "jumpstart" cycles. No luck.
    12/2013-
    01/2014: Clomid 50mg - no big follies, stepped to 100mg; One mature follie, Ovidrel (HCG trigger), IUI #1 completed - BFN
    02/2014: Clomid 100mg;
    One mature follie, Ovidrel trigger, IUI #2 completed, Crinone - BFN
    03/2014: Clomid 100mg -
    no big follies on 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; One mature follie, Ovidrel, IUI #3 completed, Crinone - BFN
    04/2014-05/2014: Letrozole 5mg + Ovidrel HG to prep for IUI #4 switched to TI, Crinone - BFN
    05/2014-06/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #4.1 completed, Crinone - BFN
    07/2014-08/2014: Letrozole 5mg; one mature follie,
    Ovidrel, IUI #5 completed, Crinone - BFN
    09/2014-10/2014: IVF Prep - Insurance requires IUI #6;
    Letrozole 5mg - no big follies 1st round, 2nd round prescribed; IUI #6, Crinone - BFN
    11/2014: "Break" - Letrozole 5mg to cycle before prepping for IVF - successfully O'ed, but BFN
    12/2014: Extending 'break' one more Letrozole-only TI cycle for mental health break - BFN
    01/2015-
    02/2015: Prep for IVF - BCP then Gonal-F, Ganirelex, Novarel trigger;  ER scheduled 2/11!
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  • I feel very connected to this.  My 'best friend' recently had a baby... and she used to be my former boss.  She had the baby in November but our friendship started to fall off long before that.  She obviously knows about my IF issues and has always been very supportive but... as much as I sound like a bitch, I don't feel like she has been very supportive in recent months.  I KNOW she just had a baby but she hasn't called or texted me in weeks and I haven't even seen the baby... I always text her to check in but nothing from her... so no I don't have any advice other than pregnancy changes people... she too was 120 lbs preggo and was constantly rubbing her belly... oh did i mention her and her hubby weren't even trying???? GRRRR! Anyways, best of luck to you, I know what you are going through and don't be hard on yourself, if you end up being a bitch to her so be it... you are going through a lot right now, we all are and we can't be constantly worrying about what people thing of us... those are my thoughts. Good luck!
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    Started seeing RE Aug 2013

    Cycle #1  – IUI #1  10.31.13 - BFN

    Cycle #2 - IUI #2 cancelled – FAIL

    Cycle #3 - IUI #2 12.27.13  BFN

    Cycle #4 -  IUI #3 1.24.14  BFN

    Cycle #5 - IVF #1 with ICSI(2 3bb blasts) 3.19.14, no frosties.. BFN


    Surprise BFP on 6.10.14 ... Miscarried 7.7.14 


    Walked away from Fertility Treatments and began to look into our Foster/Adopt License in April 2014.


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  • Thanks everyone! UPDATE: lunch went well, and as it happened--my husband actually tagged along, so it was a huge ice breaker, she asked about his work ect. So obviousally baby stuff was brought up, I did give her her gifts, I also bought her future son a wildlife book, we work in wildlife, and it's just this cute naturey-type book with winter scenes.. It does sting, I saw her opening those gifts, and just had a (scrubs moment) where I was wishing it was me-unwrapping the gifts, and holding up the outfits. But it's not..it's been three years and more and more I just hold it in.. :( she did ask about our IF and we brought her up to pace with hsg,explaining that, and the iui's coming up ect, and she said "well keep me updated" all and all it wasn't too bad, . I'll go and see her when she delivers the baby, most likely once she's home to keep up with the 'joneses' so to speak.. (Side note: we got more paperwork from a potential adoption agency today, just like pamphlets, FAQS, ect) but when I was reading some of the info to my DH he acts like he's not on the same page as me.. I mean I'll try everything to have our own blood sweat and tears take home baby-but I wanna consider other things if we try every single way to possibly have a child and we can't) ugh idk. I'm just a downer Dave today. I love you all!!!



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    DH= burn vic, abn sa MFI|| ME= PCOS, Sarcoidosis, Hypohyroidism HSG-OK
    tried naturally 2011 & 2012-
    TTC with nurse practitioner 2013
    2 clomid cycles- both bfn, started seeing RE 2013 
    FEBUARY PLAN-HSG|| March Game plan-FEMARA IUI+TRIGGER 
    MARCH-BFP (beta1;104-beta2;302)-bc of hsg
    [[all welcome !!!!!!!!!!!! ]]
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  • malerinamalerina member
    edited January 2014
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