April 2013 Moms

tell me it will be O-K

I am going to sleep train Paige. After never once STTN - and now she wont go back in her crib after she wakes up in the middle of the night and I made the mistake of bringing her to bed with us. its time.

I know she is OK, as soon as I pick her up she is fine and nuzzled, but since the whole crawling, learning to sit her self up- she just wont go back to bed.

I still rock her to sleep every single night and as much as I love it, I understand that's where I went wrong in the first place but I am will to give the ole Ferber or a basis of Ferber a try.

I am just terrified of letting her get SO worked up. I am afraid she will throw up or pass out. I know that letting them cry is OK but just need to hear it for the 23493029309 time.
Sure wish they had like baby sleep training boarding school so us mom's didn't have to go thru it ( kidding of course)!

Also, anyone who has done, I am thinking about just going cold turkey. a LOT of times she gets more and more upset if I go in to check on her... would it just be completely awful if I just let her cry it out without checking on her?

Some encouraging words would do wonders... or a 'don't do it you will be a terrible mom' might need to be said too.
UGH :(

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  • I am right there with you. I have halfheartedly tried a few times, but she's almost 9 months old now, and I need a full night's sleep. DH and I keep saying we're going to do it, then say "but we don't have to start tonight." Fail. We also bring her into bed when she gets up around 5:30. Bad. Since DH was home all week, he has rocked her to nap and sleep. Very bad. Today I have had a rough time getting her to nap , but not as bad as I thought it was going to be (I refuse to rock. Daycare is going to kill us when they open back up next week). She's only been crying 30-45 min. It will be ok! It's best for everyone! And you're not alone!!
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  • You can do it! And it doesn't make you a terrible mom to teach your baby effective sleep habits. Like any other skill, some kids just need more help than others.

    Not physically checking in is cry it out to extinction. Basically means you sit and cry while watching/listening to the monitor until baby stops crying. For a lot of babies that is more effective and efficient than checking in because baby gets too worked up each time you go in to check on her.

    Trust yourself that you are making the best decision for your family, whatever that ends up being. You got this, mama!
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  • You can do it!! We went through this about a month ago and now LO sleeps through the night. Each night gets a little easier. Just stay consistent!
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  • You are not a terrible mom to sleep train your baby.  She will be fine.  If you know she isn't hungry, has a relatively clean diaper, isn't in pain, and is safe, then there is no reason to run in and rescue her.  I know there are many techniques to sleep training.  I don't profess to know them at all.  With my kids, I usually let them scream for 5-10 minutes and they usually stop on their own within that period of time.  I have to literally watch the clock because screaming babies for 5 minutes feels like an hour! 

    It will definitely be okay, but it will be hard in the short-term.  Good luck!

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  • It will absolutely be ok! 

    H and I sleep trained the girls (9 months) over the holiday and we all survived.  Being in the trenches together was key!  Whenever one of us would falter or hold one of the girls a little too long (cheating the system basically), the other was there to remind and stay the course. 

    We chose to go with Baby Whisperer "Pick up, put down", which takes more time, but it's working well so far.  I, like you, was terrified of letting them get too worked up, so we decided to try a no-cry (i.e. less-cry) alternative first.  If this method didn't work, Ferber was next. 

    If you and SO are on the same page and ready to support each other, you'll be good!  As PP said, teaching your child effective sleep habits makes you a GOOD mom!

    You totally got this and everyone's here for you!

    p.s. (and a little wine REALLY helped, in my opinion)
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  • Thank you guys so much, this is what i needed to hear!!
    any other advice, keep it coming!

    @poohblair- to go thru it, with TWO babies, mercy me and yes, the wine has to help! :)
    - question, on the technique you used, Paige likes to sit up as soon as I put her down, did your girls do that? I would like to try your method first to see if it would work, did you pick up and put down right after another or did you wait in intervals before doing so?
  • Don't worry- russianmommy isn't here anymore to tell you sleep training makes you a terrible mom!! ;)

    But seriously - it's been one of the best things we've done as parents so far. She puts herself to sleep so easily now. Good luck!!
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  • Aw, it will be okay!  Good luck!!!  My friend Linda had to go stay in a hotel and let her husband sleep train the kids. :-)  Maybe push for that?  Haha.  Just kidding.  But seriously, good luck and yes it will be ok!
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  • @melissaad23 - thank you! So happy it worked for you!

    did you do ferber? with the intervals or just full on extinction?
  • @jss1002 - that is a brilliant idea! However I am pretty sure my husband would not agree, hahaha.
    Thanks for the encouragement :)
  • We loosely Babywised it. We didn't go in at intervals, but we didn't let her cry all night long either.
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  • It will be ok...it only took one night for us, and it was by far the best thing we have done. She sleeps better, we sleep better. Good things all around. My husband and I did it on a night where neither of us had to work the next day, and made a plan to do 2 hour shifts. She cried the 1st night for 1 hour and 45 minutes, and we did the progressive checking on her. She slept the rest of the night after that. It only took one night. We now put her down awake but drowsy at 8pm, and she sleeps until 7:30-8:00am.
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  • jss1482 said:
    @jss1002 - that is a brilliant idea! However I am pretty sure my husband would not agree, hahaha.
    Thanks for the encouragement :)
    My husband didn't go for it either.  Weird. ;-)
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  • @erin10408 - only 1 night! How encouraging!! :)


  • jss1482 said:
    Thank you guys so much, this is what i needed to hear!!
    any other advice, keep it coming!

    @poohblair- to go thru it, with TWO babies, mercy me and yes, the wine has to help! :)
    - question, on the technique you used, Paige likes to sit up as soon as I put her down, did your girls do that? I would like to try your method first to see if it would work, did you pick up and put down right after another or did you wait in intervals before doing so?
    One of the girls immediately flips on her belly and crawls to stand in her crib as soon as she is put down.  There was a lot of "put down" in her case.  Hogg (Baby Whisperer) suggests to let your child fully stand if they are able before laying back down, but we found that we didn't necessarily need to do that.  I will say, she's been the more difficult of the two to grasp the concept.  :)

    As to the other part of your question, we would wait and stay in the room a few moments to see if they would settle themselves back down.  If they started to rev up; however, we'd pick them up almost as soon as we laid them down.  It was a little bit of trial and error to see what worked best for each baby.  HTH! 
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  • You know your baby best... Trust yourself that you will be able to listen and respond appropriately to your baby. You know the difference between "I'm irritated" and "I need my mom now!"... Good luck and keep us posted on your success!
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  • You can do it! I was never able Togo in a check on Ella because it made her worse but if she was beyond upset is go it rock a few min and try again..after two nights she is a champion sleeper! I learned not To go in and tend to her right away in the mot not early morning if she was fussing..she would go back to sleep 2-3 min later
  • oh thank you guys so much, honestly helps a lot!
    time to bite the bullet! Fingers crossed!

    one more question, what do you do in regards to MOTN feedings? I still feed Paige at least once a night ( which i also think is habit but don't know if we can cut out all at once) - maybe just pick a time and that is her feed time and all other times work on the self soothing?
  • Two nights for us... The first night was super rough... Second was a bit easier and the third was a dream come true :). We had no choice but to do cold turkey. He would get too worked up if we checked on him. As far as MOTN feeding. Our ped said there's no reason why he can't go at least 8 hours. So, if it was before that 8 hour mark we would let him cry. If it had been linger than 8 hours we would feed him.
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  • You can do it! It will most likely be harder to break these habits later. It will be so much better in a week and you will almost forget the terrible few days. A few terrible days are a small price to pay for a good sleeper for hopefully years! Good luck and stay strong. I hope it works quickly!
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  • Hugs... the fact that you are worried about it shows what a good mom you are.  I have a non sleeper too and know what you are going through.  Here is what I have been doing

    She is slowly getting better.....
    I nurse/rock to sleep... after about 10 minutes I slowly put her in the crib (on her stomach).  For the first little while for each waking I would nurse her to sleep and repeat.  Once she got used to being in the crib, I worked on rocking her to sleep (vs nursing) if it had been less than 4 hours. Then, finally I got to the point where if she woke up after the transfer I would let her CIO... I have a personal limit because I cannot let her cry alone for very long but luckily for me she has never cried longer than around 20 minutes... her longest time was 23 minutes.

    The first night was the hardest for sure.. I watched her on the video monitor (which really helps because you can see she is okay). I watched her in the monitor and cried.... to my surprise by 18 minutes she was starting to fall asleep and she was out by 20 minutes.  Then, I balled even more because my baby cried herself to sleep.  But I was so happy it only took 20 minutes, my little lady is stubborn and I was sure I would be hearing her cry for hours.  And after that night any time I have let her CIO at night she is always out by the 20 min mark.

    You can tell if they are going to go to sleep because after awhile they get into a sleeping position and take longer breaks in between crying. 

    This only works for us at bed time.... Naps are still a mystery to me   She does not transition easy into the crib during the day.. I have let her cry up to 25 minutes for nap and some days she is asleep by 20 min and other days I am getting her at the 25 minute mark feeling like an A hole. 

    But I do think that working on it the way I did has really helped and I did it in a way I felt comfortable with.  And actually this week DH has rocked her back to sleep if she wakes up before 4 hours (which has NEVER happened... until now she would scream bloody murder, worse than if  you left her in the crib if anyone got her out but me).

    I don't know if you feel comfortable with it but putting her in on her stomach has made a big difference as well.  Good luck
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  • ToAoShesha - Thanks for sharing! Sounds similar to my situation. I do lay her on her stomach to sleep and that has helped a lot but my limits are low too. I am hoping for a similar time frame that you had. Going to start tonight. Didn't want to start last night as we had NYE plans and that would have thrown off the routine but now we are staying in ( husband is sick) So i figured might as well give it a whirl since we are off tomorrow.
    Thank you all very very much for the support, I will keep yall posted! :) FX
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