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Miscarriage after IVF - struggling

Hi Folks,

This is my first post here. I've been on a different forum, but I can't bear to go back to it right now, as pretty much all of my forum buddies are preggers. We have been TTC for almost two years. I got pregnant quickly, but it was an ectopic, and actually did a lot of damage to one of my tubes. Then we had 15 months of NOTHING. Tried Femara, tried injectables, and all failed, sometimes spectacularly. I also got diagnosed with endo, which was removed. OH is perfect. We're 36 and 40, so time is definitely an issue.

We did our first IVF in Oct/Nov, and it worked, barely. Nothing to freeze, but they transferred two three day embies. One took, and we saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks. Elation! But then the scan at 8 weeks showed no growth and no heartbeat, and we had a D&C a week ago.

We feel about how you'd imagine, except that I feel so ANGRY at the world, my body, and the universe. I want to unfriend anyone I know with children. I never want to talk to a pregnant woman again. If anyone asks if we're thinking of having kids (regular occurrence) I think I might actually punch them. I don't have the capacity to pretend to be happy for anyone who is pregnant. In the next few weeks I'm seeing lots of friends with new babies, and I really don't think I can bear to even talk to them.

Has anyone been here? Does it get better? Does anyone have advice to help us through this?


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***Losses mentioned.*** TTC #1 since May 2012. Me: 37, OH: 41. Ectopic August 2012 => tubal damage. :'(  Stage 1 endo removed June 2013. IVF #1 Oct/Nov 2013: Long Lupron with Gonal-F. 7R, 7M, 7F. 2 txfer@3d. Nothing frozen.  => M/C @ 8 wks. :'( Selected RPL panel all normal. Very hyper and brittle response to stims. IVF #2 (antagonist protocol) Feb 2014 => Converted to IUI (Perfect conditions). BFN. IVF #2.1 w/ new RE June 2014: Antagonist protocol. 33R, 31M, 30F, 19 blasts to test!!! I made it through without crashing!! :) Hats off to Dr. Fancypants!! ET of one 5AB blast. BFN. 13 10 CCS'ed snowflakes! FET #1 PUPO as of 7/29 Betas: 8/7@24, 8/9@97, 8/11@334 (etc.) Two sacs on 8/15, one seen on 8/18 after a bleed. U/s 8/25 (6+3) "perfect": 5.9 mm + HB@120bpm! U/s 9/4 (7+6): 15.9 mm + HB@172 bpm! Please, PLEASE stick this time!!!!
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Re: Miscarriage after IVF - struggling

  • ****gives tight hug**** I want to start off by saying I am so sorry for your loss. I know exactly how you feel, it is completely normal. Welcome to the board, you will find a ton of support from the wonderful women on this board. I also had a mc after my first IVF took and I lost him at 6 weeks. I deleted my account on Facebook because I just could not take the kids and family togetherness that was displayed, this helped me a lot! It is hard to see the pregnant people out, but I try and get away on those really tough days.

    You may also want to check out the TTC after a loss when you are ready, the women over there are great also and they have all been to the same hell and back that you have. There is a IF check-in on that board and I am sure they will welcome you with open arms too.

    Right after my loss I hung out for a bit on the miscarriage/pregnancy loss board for support on now to deal, but eventually came back to this board and the TTCAL board.

    Again I am so sorry you are having to deal with this, and will include you in my t&p's to heal fast. I am happy to chat if you need anything or someone just to vent to.
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    I'm 29 and DH is 32 we have a MFI (low count) 
    IVF #1 starting in August. ER 9/5/13 23 eggs we are fertilizing 15. 9 frozen
    ET 9/10 - transferred 1 perfect 5AA blast
    7dp5dt BFP ~~ Beta on 9/19 - 77.4 Beta #2 on 9/21 - 357
    Low heartbeat on 10/7 86, lower heartbeat on 10/11 76, no heartbeat 10/14/13. D&C 10/15/13
    Tests revealed MTHFR c677t mutation, put on Folgard.
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    FET #1 1/6/14 - 4BB blast - BFN
    FET #2 - 3/3/14 - 5AB Blast -- Beta #1 3/12 - 152 -- Beta #2 3/14 - 358
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    FET #3 06/09/16 - 5AB Blast - Beta #1 6/18- 245 -- Beta #2 06/20 - 600
     PAIF/SAIF/PAL/SAL welcome!

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  • ** Pregnant after IF response **

     

    I want to offer you a huge hug, too. I remember the exact feelings you are describing. To answer your question, I have been there and it does get better. I ended up benefitting from counseling for a time and DH and I took several breaks over the course of our journey to travel, reconnect and focus on other goals. We also kept an open mind and sought multiple options to build our family like fostering, adopting and ultimately consulting with several RE's about various treatment options since we felt our first RE was taking the "cookie cutter" approach with us. When we were financially and emotionally ready to cycle again we went with a new office for a fresh start and I was  in a much better place.

     

    I'm so very sorry for what you have been through and especially for your miscarriage. Be kind to yourself. Distance yourself from your friends if you need to. If you can, be honest with them about why, but don't expect them to really understand. I hope your heart heals with time and that your miracle is just around the corner.

    Age: 35 TTC since 2005, MFI & DOR 

    IVF #1 Sep '11 - canceled poor response

     IVF #2 Nov '11  8R/8M/4F 3dt x2 - chemical

    IVF #3 April '12  11R/6M/4F 3dt x2 - m/c

    FET #1 Aug 2012  3dt x2 - BFN

    **new RE**

     IVF #4 Jan '13 BFN 11R/6M/6F 5dt x2 - BFN

     IVF #5 July '13 16R/10M/10F 5dt x2 + 1 frostie

    9dp5dt Beta 1 = 344!! 16dp5dt. Beta 2 = 4822 7wk u/s= 2 heartbeats!

    Twin girls! 3/6/14

     

  • Offering thoughts, prayers, and a hope for a more peaceful beginning to your new year.  I have had an ectopic pregnancy through a failed IVF cycle and can not even begin to add a miscarriage into those feelings as you have experienced.  It is awful....just being able to say that matters.  Be gentle with yourself and yes, you have every right to feel the way you do.  No real advice here, but to welcome you and tell you it does get better, and having a new plan in place in a while will help you.  Take all the time you need....remember, your heart is broken as well as your body in turmoil.  
    hugs....

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    Married August 2012 -- Me (40 yrs old) My husband (45 yrs. old) 

    RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF 

    IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN

      Decided to do IVF... Began stimming on September 10th!  Egg Retrieval 9/20/13.  19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI

     3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5  Beta #2 on 10/6/13 =  negative

      IVF#2 - Lupron plan  (set to begin on 10/28/13)  (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)

     Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months

    CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron.  (Got my calendar today!  IVF#2 is a go!)

    ER = 1/14/14  (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized.  Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized.  At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing.  Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)

    ET = 1/19/14  (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred!   (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze.  =(  )

    Beta #1 = 1/28/14   (2 weeks after ER)  BFP! 209 (9dp5dt)   EDD 10/7/14

    Beta #2 - 1/30/14  (11 dp5dt) 302

    Beta #3 - 2/3/14  (15 dp5dt)  1222 

    Ultrasound set for 2/17/14......TWINS!        Twin A - HR 124 bpm; Twin B - HR 126 bpm

    Final Ultrasound with RE 3/10/14 - Twin A - HR 176 bpm; Twin B - HR 177 bpm.

     PAIF/SAIF Welcome! 

     

     

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  • ((Hugs)) I experienced a chemical pregnancy after IVF #3 in October and for me it has gotten better.  I still have good days and bad days, but the good are outnumbering the bad right now.  

    I think a few things have helped me move on.  First, I took time to recognize my loss.  Some people would feel like my loss wasn't a real loss because it was so early (4 weeks and 3 days).  To me it most definitely is a real loss and my first ever pregnancy after 2 + years of TTC.  I wear a ring on my right hand with the birthstone of my EDD.  This small recognition has helped me grieve and begin to move forward.  The other thing that has helped me is coming up with a plan for moving forward with treatments.  We are doing IVF #3 in January (We have never had any embryos to freeze), which will most likely be our last attempt with my eggs.  If this cycle doesn't work and we have nothing to freeze, we will move on to DE or donor embryos.   Just knowing our plan has been comforting to me, helping me to look forward instead of being stuck in my bubble of grief over our loss and IF. 

    Take care of yourself and understand that it will take time to heal. There is no right way to grieve and no right amount of time to grieve.  Everyone is different and focus on what you need right now.  I'm so sorry that you are going through this.

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    TTC #1 since August 2011

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    September 2012: Start IF testing

    DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA  Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA

    October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos

    November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues.  Converted to freeze all due to lining issues.  2 blasts frozen on day 6!

    January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues

    April 2015: FET #2.1


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  • I have definitely felt that anger!!!! Honestly, the only thing that seemed to help was seeing a therapist once a month. It has had a huge impact on my mental health.
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    Me: 32, DH: 34  / TTC since February 2011 / SA: all normal, HSG: all clear! / on Lovenox for anticardiolipid antibodies
    4 IUIs with Clomid, Letrozole, and Menopur. All BFN.
    9/12: lap / hysteroscopy: found and removed mild endometriosis, cervical polyp, and 2 para-tubular cysts
    5/13 IVF #1: Follistim, Menopur, Ganirelix, 10R/4M/4F, ET of 2, 5 cell and 4 cell, no frosties = BFN
    12/13 IVF #2 = November / December 2013. Microdose Lupron Protocol: 15R/6M/6F, Froze all 6 due to high E2 and P4
    FET 1: Jan 22, 2014 of one 4AB blast and one 3BB blast (3 blasts on ice!)
    BFP on HPT 4dp5dt, Beta #1 9dp5dt: 310, Beta #2 11dp5dt: 899
    First u/s on 2/17/14: TWINS!!!!! both w/HBs of 114 at 6w3d, HBs 150 and 152 at 7w5d

    5/27/2014: Team purple!!!!  EDD 10/10/2014 / 
    Delivered by c-section at 32w0d 8/15/2014 due to preeclampsia/HELLP syndrome
    Baby Boy 4lbs 1oz, 17 inches
    Baby Girl 3lbs 5oz, 16 inches


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  • I don't have any advice as IVF hasn't worked for me yet but I wanted to tell you I'm so sorry.

     TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38
    Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.

    Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!

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  • nothing can make all that anger and pain disappear as quickly as we'd all hope it would. just wanted to say take it one day at a time and take care of yourself emotionally and physically. welcome to the boards, im sorry you still have to be here but i hope you find some comfort and support along the way *hugs*
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    Me: 27 High FSH (POF?) DH: 33 Slightly Low Morphology / Married Aug '08 TTC since 7/2009
    6 rounds of clomid = no luck
    IVF w/ ICSI & AZH #1 - Jan/2011 = ET cancelled OHSS
    FET #1 & #2 - March/2011 & June/2011 = Chemical Preg.
    IVF w/ Half ICSI #2 New RE - May/2012 = BFN!
    May '12 - Sep '13 - Took A Break
    Dec '13 IVF w/ Half ICSI #3!!!!! Switched RE
    Protocol - Lupron trigger/Follistim/Ganirelix/Estrace/Vivelle/Crinone
    12/27 - BFP! TWINS! EDD 9/3/14 ...Team PURPLE!
    6/27/14 - Emergency C/S @ 30w2d - Baby A 2lb 14oz, Baby B 2lb 11 oz
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  • I understand the anger issue. I still hate my body because I feel that my adenomyosis killed my embies. What i thought was a safe place for them, tuned into the worst home in the world. It isn't fair. No one deserves to go through this heartbreak. I have a coworker/ friend who did her FET two weeks earlier than mine.,. Hers worked and when I saw her announcement it stung. I try to be happy when I'm around her, mostly because I know she had to go through IF also.... But deep down I hurt when I see her. She is very sympathetic about my situation and is very encouraging..... And that helps some.

    Anyway, I get the anger, hurt, disappointment. Hugs to you! And warm wishes for the holidays.
    Me: 38
    DX:  Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant

    DH: 34
    MFI due to Testicular Cancer

    Married March 2012 <3
    IVF w/ICSI #1
    10 little polar bears
    FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN :(
    FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
    Beta 1= 276
    Beta 2= 662
    4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
    5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
    5/3/14 ~ D&C
    FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
    October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
    Fur Children:  Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y



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  • I'm so sorry. I couldn't imagine hearing the HB and then having a miscarriage.  We have had many failed cycles and 1 chemical and its so upsetting.  I hope you and your DH can get through this and your next pregnancy is your take home baby.  IF is so cruel and unfair.  
    ***SIGGY WARNING***

    DX: Unexplained
    6 Failed IUIs (Clomid and Gonal F).  
    IVF #1 began August 2013- BC, 4 days of Estrace, stimmed with Gonal F and Menopur, Ganirelix, 9R 5M 5F, Medrol and Doxycycline, 5 day transfer of 2 early blastocysts- good quality, Progesterone, Estrace, and baby aspirin, BETA on 9/20 BFN,   IVF #2 began September 2013, stimming with Gonal F (higher dose) and Menopur, Ganirelix, 18R 14M 9F with ICSI, 5 day transfer of 2 BBs one was starting to hatch, 2 frosties: 1  BB and 1 AC, BETA on 10/21, BFN BETA was a 5- chemical 
    Getting some more testing and trying to figure out what the issue is before FET in December, started acupuncture on 11/10, RLP and some other BW nothing major to report except slightly high Prolactin. Prolactin was slightly high when I started with my RE and I already had an MRI which was Neg.  Endo biopsy=negative.  WTF is wrong with us???
    12/18/13 FET of 1 BB and 1 AC.  Hoping for a miracle.  Beta 12/26 Low BETA-8 2nd BETA 5- chemical
    After 3 failed transfers IDK where to go from here.  Still no real answers as to why this isn't working.  Getting a second opinion in February and looking into immune testing.  
    2/14- NEW RE- Immune testing showed a partial dq alpha match with DH- On prednisone and did intralipids prior to transfer.  3/14 Lupron, gonal f, menopur, HGH.  ER 15 mature all 15 fertilized!  5dt of an early blast grade 1 and an expanded blast grade 2.  BETA on 4/21.  1 grade 2 embryo frozen
    BETA #1 59 BETA #2 148 BETA #3 283 BETA #4 2,783! US at 6w2d shows 1 bean measuring right on track! HR 121.  US at 8w3d measuring on track HR 177. Released form my RE.  EDD 12/28


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  • Thank you for this support, ladies. Christmas was very hard for us, but it helped to read these replies. It helps to hear from other people who have been in this place, and to hear that what we're feeling is normal.

    We saw the doctor this morning for our "What now?" appt, and we all decided there was no benefit to waiting to try again. (According to him the research does not support the usual 3 month waiting period.) There are a variety of scheduling issues that make early 2014 better than later, so we're just going to go for it. Whenever my next period starts I'll begin the BCP. The idea of going through all of that again makes me feel crazed, but I'm not sure it's going to be any better in a few months. We're also going to a couples counselor who specializes in infertility on Monday. Not sure if it will help, but might as well try.

    Thanks to all who responded here, and I hope everyone's sticky rainbow baby arrives soon. xoxo

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    ***Losses mentioned.*** TTC #1 since May 2012. Me: 37, OH: 41. Ectopic August 2012 => tubal damage. :'(  Stage 1 endo removed June 2013. IVF #1 Oct/Nov 2013: Long Lupron with Gonal-F. 7R, 7M, 7F. 2 txfer@3d. Nothing frozen.  => M/C @ 8 wks. :'( Selected RPL panel all normal. Very hyper and brittle response to stims. IVF #2 (antagonist protocol) Feb 2014 => Converted to IUI (Perfect conditions). BFN. IVF #2.1 w/ new RE June 2014: Antagonist protocol. 33R, 31M, 30F, 19 blasts to test!!! I made it through without crashing!! :) Hats off to Dr. Fancypants!! ET of one 5AB blast. BFN. 13 10 CCS'ed snowflakes! FET #1 PUPO as of 7/29 Betas: 8/7@24, 8/9@97, 8/11@334 (etc.) Two sacs on 8/15, one seen on 8/18 after a bleed. U/s 8/25 (6+3) "perfect": 5.9 mm + HB@120bpm! U/s 9/4 (7+6): 15.9 mm + HB@172 bpm! Please, PLEASE stick this time!!!!
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  • pblge said:
    Thank you for this support, ladies. Christmas was very hard for us, but it helped to read these replies. It helps to hear from other people who have been in this place, and to hear that what we're feeling is normal.

    We saw the doctor this morning for our "What now?" appt, and we all decided there was no benefit to waiting to try again. (According to him the research does not support the usual 3 month waiting period.) There are a variety of scheduling issues that make early 2014 better than later, so we're just going to go for it. Whenever my next period starts I'll begin the BCP. The idea of going through all of that again makes me feel crazed, but I'm not sure it's going to be any better in a few months. We're also going to a couples counselor who specializes in infertility on Monday. Not sure if it will help, but might as well try.

    Thanks to all who responded here, and I hope everyone's sticky rainbow baby arrives soon. xoxo

    I was thinking of you and am glad to hear you have a plan and can take care of yourselves as a couple too.  My best to you and your DH. 

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    Married August 2012 -- Me (40 yrs old) My husband (45 yrs. old) 

    RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF 

    IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN

      Decided to do IVF... Began stimming on September 10th!  Egg Retrieval 9/20/13.  19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI

     3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5  Beta #2 on 10/6/13 =  negative

      IVF#2 - Lupron plan  (set to begin on 10/28/13)  (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)

     Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months

    CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron.  (Got my calendar today!  IVF#2 is a go!)

    ER = 1/14/14  (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized.  Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized.  At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing.  Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)

    ET = 1/19/14  (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred!   (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze.  =(  )

    Beta #1 = 1/28/14   (2 weeks after ER)  BFP! 209 (9dp5dt)   EDD 10/7/14

    Beta #2 - 1/30/14  (11 dp5dt) 302

    Beta #3 - 2/3/14  (15 dp5dt)  1222 

    Ultrasound set for 2/17/14......TWINS!        Twin A - HR 124 bpm; Twin B - HR 126 bpm

    Final Ultrasound with RE 3/10/14 - Twin A - HR 176 bpm; Twin B - HR 177 bpm.

     PAIF/SAIF Welcome! 

     

     

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