June 2014 Moms

Gender roles- in paper grading HELL

Can I vent for one second to some beautiful, strong, mommas-to-be?

So I am an English teacher at a local college and this week is finals week. Naturally, I'm spending my evening grading research papers. The current paper in front of me is one of my favorite student's. He has a great mind and always up for some intellectual conversation. However, his paper is about old-school gender roles and how we should go back to them- men at work, women in the kitchen kind of stuff. Some of the gems:

"Single parent roles ruin household traditions"

"Men are doers, but women are step-by-step individuals" (what does this even mean?!)

"What's to say women being forced into the work force isn't the reason for the peril in the U.S."

Now- don't get me wrong...I was raised by a (mostly) stay-at-home Mom and would LOVE to be a stay-at-home Momma if possible. I have nothing, but the utmost respect for women who do this or who want to do this. I also have nothing but the utmost respect for working moms, and, as a teacher, I must put my instinctive reaction to FAIL aside and grade the paper in an unbiased manner, but DAMN! Can ya'll believe that someone is claiming that working moms could just possibly be the reason the U.S. isn't as great as it once was?

Now what are you all doing on the bump?! Get back in the kitchen and make your man a sandwich!

Rant over- paper grading commence. Thanks for listening ;)

 

Re: Gender roles- in paper grading HELL

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  • He sounds like a real gem.
  • Yikes. Did he at any time say that women shouldn't go to college because it would be a waste?
    I believe that families are important to society but I would NEVER claim single parent households are damaging to society.
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  • I think most of those statements would be hard to adequately support in a college level research paper. Does he address counter-arguments in a respectful manner? I don't know what rubric you are using, but I'm assuming he shouldn't get better than a C.
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    Even the writing itself is shitty. (I'm an editor.) I'd fail him on that alone. Forget about how dumb his point is, he can't even express his point or provide evidence for it.
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  • Why would he write that considering you're the one marking it? Can you ding him for not considering his audience?

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  • I was going to say- if this is a research paper WHERE on EARTH would he get a reliable source to back those things up. I've definitely had those essays before. I tutor the SATs and some of the practice essays students write are truly upsetting...
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  • Does he have any credible sources to back up his claims? If not, then it's all just an opinionated rant and not an actual research paper. I love how people just think that because it is a topic that they strongly believe in, that they can write a paper on it. You need facts, research, and statics to back up your ludicrous feelings. (Mini rant over)

    Good luck with your grading!!
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  • LEO2010 said:
    ...Luckily, this is their final paper so unless they expressly told me they will come get it next semester, once I put grades in, it goes in the garbage so I don't have to worry about writing comments!
    This one I'd hold on to, rather than chucking it.  If he's not used to Ds, and ESPECIALLY if this has a significant adverse effect on his overall grade, I can see him taking this over your head when he gets his final grade, claiming that you graded his paper too harshly because you were biased against his beliefs.  Mark that paper up and save it just in case.

    That said, based on what you've posted I can TOTALLY see giving him a D.  I used to teach English as well, not even at the college level, but that sort of writing would not fly in my classroom regardless of the topic.  His arguments are based on nothing and don't even hang together.
  • amoot890 said:
    I mean, are you suppose to be grading him solely on grammar or on content that is applied from some text book? If it is just grammar but not content then I don't think you can say much. But if that is what he took away from some reading material (presuming he is way off base) then that can be marked off.
    Never in college writing are you grading on grammar only. Organization, research, content, relevancy, etc. 

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  • LEO2010 said:

    ...Luckily, this is their final paper so unless they expressly told me they will come get it next semester, once I put grades in, it goes in the garbage so I don't have to worry about writing comments!

    This one I'd hold on to, rather than chucking it.  If he's not used to Ds, and ESPECIALLY if this has a significant adverse effect on his overall grade, I can see him taking this over your head when he gets his final grade, claiming that you graded his paper too harshly because you were biased against his beliefs.  Mark that paper up and save it just in case.

    That said, based on what you've posted I can TOTALLY see giving him a D.  I used to teach English as well, not even at the college level, but that sort of writing would not fly in my classroom regardless of the topic.  His arguments are based on nothing and don't even hang together.

    No he has been a D writer all semester although he (I know it's hard to believe from this) is a deep thinker and loves to have philosophical discussions. His writing (no matter the topic) is D quality. The best part is- when he came into my office to hand the paper in- he bragged about how he thought it was his best paper yet and it should probably be saved and read to future classes (sometimes I save students' papers and read them as examples of what an excellent A paper sounds like.) I actually feel bad because he had such high expectations for the paper, but no English teacher or Dean could read this and think I was in the wrong- even if you just look at it in a purely technical way and ignore the content, lack of credible resources, and lack of actual support- it's still a mess.
  • Ugh. I sympathize so much. I had a student last year write a research paper claiming that gay marriage should be illegal because it violates the 3rd Amendment.

    The 3rd Amendment, in case you don't know, restricts the government from quartering soldiers in people's homes.

    I'll never understand why kids think they can get away with this stuff.

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  • shiggybop said:
    He would fail my class and have to retake it with another professor. Some people's opinions are just....wrong.
    I don't think its fair to say that people's opinions are wrong.  An opinion is an opinion and will be different for everyone.  Failing him for writing his opinion when it differs from yours is closed minded.  Failing him for poor research/writing/class work/etc. would be justified.
  • Unfortunately, I know far too many people who would share his views. It makes me sad. I think they should start teaching a women's studies course to two in high schools, just to open up a mind or two to another way of thinking about gender issues.

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  • You are stronger willed then me! I am an ex-college prof (private sector now) and I would write things like "Are you serious?" or "HUH?" on papers all the time. Especially if it is a reserach paper. What research is supporting his claims? If there isnt any, then it's just an opinion, which doesnt belong in a research paper. Just my opinion :)

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  • LEO2010 said:
    LOVE the idea of grading it twice. Luckily, this is their final paper so unless they expressly told me they will come get it next semester, once I put grades in, it goes in the garbage so I don't have to worry about writing comments!

    He doesn't go as far to say that we shouldn't go to college, but he does definitely believe that "men are the stronger sex." He also says the Eve taking the apple from the snake proves that women have always loved bad boys (how this relates to his topic- I do not know).

    They are graded on everything- spelling/grammar, content, research, formatting, etc- he got a D and that is NOT because I completely and whole-heartily disagree with everything he says (honest).

    My brain hurts- I'm glad I have the bump to distract me...although it probably just hurts because I'm a woman and reading for a prolonged period probably strains my already smaller and weaker mind. Tehehe.
    I don't know what you've covered in your class, but when I taught ENC 1101 Logic (and avoiding logic fallacies) was part of our curriculum - therefore, I'd probably dock this kid on the basis on poor logic and generalizations. 
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