That is what someone just told me after they ripped me over ivf. It isn't a loss until you are at least 12 weeks along.... Mind you I didn't start this conversation it was started by a friend who apparently doesn't give a shit about me. They literally said "it's not like you lost anything.... They were just cells". I'm in tears.
Me: 38 DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant DH: 34 MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012 IVF w/ICSI #1 10 little polar bears FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!! Beta 1= 276 Beta 2= 662 4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel 5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel 5/3/14 ~ D&C FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014 October 13, 2014 ~ BFN Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL Animals Interacting with Snow
(((HUGS))) I'm absolutely speechless. I really hope that she never has to experience anything like that in order to understand how incredibly hurtful that is! I'm so so sorry that supposed "friends" are acting like this. How would you even respond to something like that??? (other than the initial gut reaction of stabbing them in the face and running away crying.)
***ticker****
I am sick reading this! Unbelievable! No one knows the despair and devastation that we have all struggled through in this group! A loss is a loss and it never doesn't hurt. I am so sorry.
Me:35, DH: 39
TTC since March 2011. All bloodword, SA & HSG are normal.
It actually is worse.. I went to their house to give them the Santa hats for their twins that were left at my house after my Christmas party last night... Twins they conceived through ivf. They went on about how they lost more because they went through 8 transfers to get their girls and I have only been through 1 so they are more entitled to grief. I literally left their house in tears because a) I never would compare losses and b) I never even brought this up!
I know they lost.... I know they went through hell to have their kids... But why diminish my pain? I never compared the two...
Me: 38 DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant DH: 34 MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012 IVF w/ICSI #1 10 little polar bears FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!! Beta 1= 276 Beta 2= 662 4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel 5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel 5/3/14 ~ D&C FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014 October 13, 2014 ~ BFN Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL Animals Interacting with Snow
This is absolutely horrible. I'm SO sorry!!! I wish I could hug thought the computer. I don't know if I would ever be able to face them again.
TTC #1 Since May 2011 ~ Everyone Welcome
Me (34): DOR d/t chemo/radiation, Immature Endometrial Lining, Hypothyroidism
DH (35): MFI d/t testicular torsion and removal, Low T, Oligospermia, Anti-Sperm Antibodies, Currently on T supplements Sept '11-April '13 ~ Testing, failed multiple MFI treatments, saving & TONS of praying January 2014 ~ IVF/ICSI & PGS ~ no response to stims ~ converted to IUI ~ BFN February 2014 ~ On to donor embyros ~ 5 blasts!!! March 2014 ~ FET #1 ~ Transferred 2 blasts ~ BFN July 2014 ~ Kliman's mock cycle with endometrial function test Sample too small for EFT, HE slide showed immature cells New protocol planned, saving for another biopsy for EFT January 2015 ~ Considering adoption options April 2015 ~ Privately arranged adoption of planned pregnancy DD#1 ~ Lillyana Violet Marie born 6/15/16, Finalized adoption 12/20/16 July 13, 2018 ~ BFP....WTF?!?! 7/16 Beta #1 ~ 466...7/18 Beta #2 ~ 1,077...7/23 Beta #3 ~ 5,291 7/23 US #1 ~ 1 gestational sac seen and yolk sac 7/30 US #2 and 1st OB appt ~ 1 perfectly round gestational sac, 1 perfect yolk sac and 1 teeny tiny heart beat seen!!!
I had a doctor tell me (as I bled profusely from a miscarriage) that you're not REALLY pregnant until you're 12 weeks pregnant. So the fetal heart tones I heard the week earlier were not a baby's?
Me- 35 Dx endo; DH- 33 no probs.
BFP#1 (totally a wonderful surprise)- 3/10/11. IUFD 6/25/11.
August 2013- IVF#1- 14 R, 11F, transferred 1 perfect blast, 5 day 5 frosties= BFN.
Sept 2013- Let's get ready for FET October 7th ish!< transfer 2 embies 10/11/13.......BFP 10/18/13!!!!/div>
PAIF/SAIF and everyone is welcome. If I can make even one person's journey less painful, I will consider my experience here successful. Thank you to all for sharing their stories, the intimate details of their lives, their knowledge, and their hearts. I hope this experience changes me, always for the better.
Total bullshit! I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I probably would have punched her. The next time anything bad happened to them I'd probably be a bit happy too. Just so wrong!
TTC since 3/2011 Adenomyosis, LPD, hypothyroidism.
BFP on 7/20/12 after 4 cycles Clomid + IUI
2 large subchorionic hematomas & no heartbeat at 7w6d
D&E 8/18/12 Sonohysterography found septum and necrotic tissue.
Wow, that makes me furious. I am so sorry. This should be someone who understands. Maybe they just haven't come to terms with their own losses, which is why they feel the need to lash out. ::huge hugs to you::
I'm sorry. All of our losses are very real and the people who may have arrived in our lives DID matter and always will. Just know you are not alone and tears are normal. Give yourself some time and be good to yourself.
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Married August 2012 -- Me (40 yrs old) My husband (45 yrs. old)
RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF
IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN
Decided to do IVF...Began stimming on September 10th! Egg Retrieval 9/20/13. 19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI
3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5 Beta #2 on 10/6/13 = negative
IVF#2 - Lupron plan (set to begin on 10/28/13) (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)
Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months
CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron. (Got my calendar today! IVF#2 is a go!)
ER = 1/14/14 (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized. Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized. At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing. Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)
ET = 1/19/14 (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred! (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze. =( )
People always have a tendency to compare to make themselves feel better. You would think with them going through ivf they would know the pain is the same regardless of number of transfers. I am so so sorry
Me: 28, DH: 30
TTC since March 2012 PCO & MTHFR Homozygous/Severe MFI (undescended teste & double hernia as baby)
Thank you ladies. I'm unfortunately discovering through this IF process who my friends truly are. And sadly that has eliminated a number of people.
Me: 38 DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant DH: 34 MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012 IVF w/ICSI #1 10 little polar bears FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!! Beta 1= 276 Beta 2= 662 4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel 5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel 5/3/14 ~ D&C FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014 October 13, 2014 ~ BFN Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL Animals Interacting with Snow
I am so sorry you had to go through this! Some people are so insensitive! Honey, you grieve And cry all you want...you have suffered a huge loss. Big hugs!
TTC 2 years- Me and DH (28) with (severely) low sperm count- less than 40 total (last 2 SA showed only 5 and 6 sperm each) IVF #1: ER 1/23/13- 4 eggs retrieved,
3 eggs fertilized; ET with 1 embryo 1/28/13
2 frosties
beta #1 2/5 was 4.8- beta #2 2/7 3.5; BFN
FET #1- transferred one beautiful 4AA embie. Praying this is my take home baby. Beta 5/7/13- BFFN!!!
IVF #2: ER 7/17/13: 6R/3F- transferred 1 blast and 1 10 cell embryo 5dt. Beta hell. #1 2.5, #2 2.2- BFFFN! REALLY? IVF #3: ER 12/1 and only 2 retrieved. 1 fertilized with ICSI. Was planning on transferring one fresh and one frozen....fresh was only 14 cells at day 5...CANCELLED and devastated due to 5cm blood filled cyst in ovary and blood in uterus. IVF #4: Antagonist protocol with endometrial scratch day one of stims. ER 4/21: 6R/4M/3F- transferred 2 beautiful blasts (5dt) and one was hatching! No frosties but hoping we won't need it! Beta 5/4/14- 444(8dp5dt), Beta #2 10dp5dt 1002! THIS HAS GOT TO BE IT!!!!!!!!!! First US 5/15 we saw two of the most beautiful gestational and yolk sacs I have ever seen! ****FINALLY PREGNANT WITH DI/DI TWINS!!!!!!!
BRINLEY AND RILEY LONG. Born November 20, 2014 at 32 wks 3 days. 4lbs7oz and 4lbs5oz. 1 month NICU time for "B's" and growing and feeding. Now healthy, thriving, beautiful little girls! pg
I'm so sorry. That was a horrible thing to say. I hate people who play the pain Olympics.
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38 Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
I am so sorry your 'friend' reacted the way she did. No loss is better or worse IMO- They are just different. In my experience, and I don't think I am alone here, every failed cycle is a kind of loss. We all have hopes, imagine a future, plan little things in our heads- even when we try to be cautious. Those things are ripped away when we get a BFN. You had a spark of life within you, whether it was for one day or longer, it was there and it existed, and I am so sorry someone tried to trivialize your feelings and your experience.
TTC since 2008 Dh:34, no issues. Me:31, Endo, slightly hypothyroid, deformed ovary, paracentric inversion. 4 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, HcG, Crinone +TI cycles= all BFN Lap in 2012 to remove large unresolving cyst discovered endo and double lobed ovary. 6 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, HcG, Crinone IUI cycles= All BFN, 1st IVF w/ICSI- June '13 Antagonist: Gonal-F, Menopur, Ganirelix, HcG, Estradiol, Crinone= 7 retrieved, 4 mature, 1 unfertilized, 2 abnormally fertilized, 1 normally fertilized. 2DT of only embryo and our miracle BFP. Our beloved baby boy was born sleeping Oct. 13, 2013 due to pROM/IC/Uterine infection. 2nd IVF w/ICSI- Feb. '14 EPP/lupron/antagonist: Estrace, lupron, HGH, Gonal-F, Menopur, HcG, PIO, lovenox, doxy/dex.=21 retrieved, 16 mature, 15 fertilized!! 5dt of 1 blast/ 6 frozen. BFP! Beta 1 9dp5dt:83.9 Beta 2: 11dp5dt: 145.2 Beta 3 14dp5dt: 497 Please be our sticky rainbow baby!
The fact that we can't, or likely can't conceive naturally is a loss. A canceled cycle is a loss. OHSS is a loss. A failed fresh or FET is a loss.
Doesn't matter how many times you go through one thing or the other, it all sucks. It's all heartbreaking. I don't know what your relationship is like with this person but it doesn't sound like someone I'd want to confide in, or be close friends with. If it took her so long to conceive then she should know exactly how you feel. True we all feel the pain differently but to tell someone how they should feel is appalling.
Hugs to you, and I'm sorry you have to deal with additional pain from someone who is supposed to be a friend.
((hugs)) I am so sorry you had to hear something like that from a "friend"
I just don't have words, I would have probably punched the person who said that, friend or not.
Pretty much everyone above said what I would have.
Me: 34, DH: 32 TTC Since September 2012 Dx-PCOS, Anovulation, highly irregular cycles March 2013 Comid 50 mg+ TI #1: BFN April 2013 Clomid mg + TI #2: BFN IVM#1 Aug 2012: BFN 20 FEB 2014: CP IUI #1 Clomid 100mg 24 FEB 2014: BFN
Wow...so inconsiderate. Even if that is what they really think...which is crappy in itself...but if it is, they should at least keep it to themselves. Why do people never consider other people's feeling before opening their mouths. Everyone has a right to their own grief no matter what the situation and friends should be supportive or just shut it!!!
Me: 36, unexplained
Him: 36, slightly low count
TTC since May 2011
IUI #1 w/Clomid - 10/2012 BFN
Break for cysts
IUI #2 w/Clomid - 12/2012 BFN
Break for cysts
IUI #3 w/Clomid - 2/2013 BFN
Break for sanity and to work on health with diet, exercise, and acupuncture
That is terrible. Your friend would think I am crazy then because I am going to a candle lighting ceremony tomorrow night and lighting a candle for my "bunch of cells."
I have went to a miscarriage support group (with my sister who had a blighted ovum a few years ago) and most of the women there had losses at 17+ weeks. However none of them "judge" the women that had earlier losses. To the group a loss is a loss, whether it is at 4 weeks and 3 days like my c/p or if it is a still born like a few of the women in the group.
DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA
October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos
November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues. Converted to freeze all due to lining issues. 2 blasts frozen on day 6!
January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues
I am so sorry your 'friend' reacted the way she did. No loss is better or worse IMO- They are just different. In my experience, and I don't think I am alone here, every failed cycle is a kind of loss. We all have hopes, imagine a future, plan little things in our heads- even when we try to be cautious. Those things are ripped away when we get a BFN. You had a spark of life within you, whether it was for one day or longer, it was there and it existed, and I am so sorry someone tried to trivialize your feelings and your experience.
I completely agree with you about losses being different. I lost my dad 6 years ago and that pain was different than this pain. I would never compare the losses or anyone's loss. Additionally, we all experience grief differently, so who is to say what is right or wrong? Sadly these have been very close friends of mine and DH for many years; closer than our actual families.... So they were the last people I expected this from and I'm devastated over this now too. I don't know if it can be fixed.
Me: 38 DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant DH: 34 MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012 IVF w/ICSI #1 10 little polar bears FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!! Beta 1= 276 Beta 2= 662 4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel 5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel 5/3/14 ~ D&C FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014 October 13, 2014 ~ BFN Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL Animals Interacting with Snow
Whoa! That is not acceptable AT ALL! I am SO sorry! So incredibly rude. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your 'friend' and that she made you feel like your pain wasn't justified. Unbelievable, especially after she's experienced IVF. Xoxo
2013- 2 IVF cycles with PGD to prevent genetic disorder from being passed on. Both BFFN
OMFG. That is absolutely outrageous, I can't believe that a "friend" would EVER say something like that!!! I have never suffered a loss, so I can only imagine the pain and grief that go with it. But I do have to say, after a BFN from IVF#1, and all the rest of my embryos arresting for that cycle and IVF#2... I feel like I lost something. Big time. They may have only been two to seven cells each... but they are the closest I have ever been to a baby. Possibly the closest I will ever be to a biological child. Your "friend's" comment is insensitive. And really, really pisses me off.
Jan - March 2013: Clomid cycles, no response (aside from mood swings!)
March - May 2013: Pursued international adoption, on hold due to uncertainty and rule changes in country
July 2013: Gonal F + Ovidrel + IUI #1 = Poor Response + Poor Counts =BFN
Aug/Sept 2013:BCP to clear big cysts. IUI #2 same meds, better counts, another slow poor response. Cycle should have been cancelled.BFN.
Oct 2013: Same meds, IUI #3 cancelled due to 5 follicles...Seriously?!
Nov/Dec 2013: IVF w/ ICSI
ER on 12/5: 46R, 42M, 37F, 21 blasts, 15 normal after CCS/PGD results, FET on 1/24, transferred two hatching embryos!Super Bowl beta 2/2 - 459! 2/4 - 1465!!
wow just when i think ive heard/read it all. that is just beyond mean and insensitive. i mean with IF occasionally you'll hear non IF ppl say "oh look on the bright side" "it couldve been worse" but someone that has physcially, mentally, emotionally gone through it???? how heartless can you be! im sorry you had to deal with that.
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Me: 27 High FSH (POF?) DH: 33 Slightly Low Morphology / Married Aug '08TTC since 7/2009 6 rounds of clomid = no luck IVF w/ ICSI & AZH #1 - Jan/2011 = ET cancelled OHSS FET #1 & #2 - March/2011 & June/2011 = Chemical Preg. IVF w/ Half ICSI #2 New RE - May/2012 = BFN! May '12 - Sep '13 - Took A Break Dec '13 IVF w/ Half ICSI #3!!!!! Switched RE Protocol - Lupron trigger/Follistim/Ganirelix/Estrace/Vivelle/Crinone
12/27 - BFP! TWINS! EDD 9/3/14 ...Team PURPLE! 6/27/14 - Emergency C/S @ 30w2d - Baby A 2lb 14oz, Baby B 2lb 11 oz
Re: It's not a loss
***EVERYONE WELCOME***
I know they lost.... I know they went through hell to have their kids... But why diminish my pain? I never compared the two...
DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant
DH: 34
MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012
IVF w/ICSI #1
10 little polar bears
FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN
FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
Beta 1= 276
Beta 2= 662
4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
5/3/14 ~ D&C
FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL
Animals Interacting with Snow
Sept '11-April '13 ~ Testing, failed multiple MFI treatments, saving & TONS of praying
January 2014 ~ IVF/ICSI & PGS ~ no response to stims ~ converted to IUI ~ BFN
February 2014 ~ On to donor embyros ~ 5 blasts!!!
March 2014 ~ FET #1 ~ Transferred 2 blasts ~ BFN
July 2014 ~ Kliman's mock cycle with endometrial function test
Sample too small for EFT, HE slide showed immature cells
New protocol planned, saving for another biopsy for EFT
January 2015 ~ Considering adoption options
April 2015 ~ Privately arranged adoption of planned pregnancy
DD#1 ~ Lillyana Violet Marie born 6/15/16, Finalized adoption 12/20/16
July 13, 2018 ~ BFP....WTF?!?!
7/16 Beta #1 ~ 466...7/18 Beta #2 ~ 1,077...7/23 Beta #3 ~ 5,291
7/23 US #1 ~ 1 gestational sac seen and yolk sac
7/30 US #2 and 1st OB appt ~ 1 perfectly round gestational sac, 1 perfect yolk sac and 1 teeny tiny heart beat seen!!!
************** Siggy Warning************
Married August 2012 -- Me (40 yrs old) My husband (45 yrs. old)
RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF
IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN
Decided to do IVF... Began stimming on September 10th! Egg Retrieval 9/20/13. 19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI
3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5 Beta #2 on 10/6/13 = negative
IVF#2 - Lupron plan (set to begin on 10/28/13) (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)
Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months
CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron. (Got my calendar today! IVF#2 is a go!)
ER = 1/14/14 (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized. Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized. At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing. Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)
ET = 1/19/14 (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred! (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze. =( )
Beta #1 = 1/28/14 (2 weeks after ER) BFP! 209 (9dp5dt) EDD 10/7/14
Beta #2 - 1/30/14 (11 dp5dt) 302
Beta #3 - 2/3/14 (15 dp5dt) 1222
Ultrasound set for 2/17/14......TWINS! Twin A - HR 124 bpm; Twin B - HR 126 bpm
Final Ultrasound with RE 3/10/14 - Twin A - HR 176 bpm; Twin B - HR 177 bpm.
PAIF/SAIF Welcome!
Me: 28, DH: 30 TTC since March 2012
PCO & MTHFR Homozygous/Severe MFI (undescended teste & double hernia as baby)
12/12: 50mg clomid= bfn
1/13: 100mg clomid= bfn
2/13: 100mg clomid= bfn
6/13: IVF/ICSI (x1 4AA)=BFFN ~49R, 44M, 33F, 14 frosties OHSS
8/13: FET #1 (x1 4AA)=First EVER BFP 4dp5dt!! d&c @ 6.5 wks, blighted ovum
10/13: FET #2 (x2 4AA)= BFP 4dp5dt! Twins!!, perfect u/s then spontaneous m/c @ 5 wks
11/13= RPL/Karotyping= MTHFR Homozygous c667t
1/14= FET #3 our 2 year anniversary & hopefully our miracle
DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant
DH: 34
MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012
IVF w/ICSI #1
10 little polar bears
FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN
FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
Beta 1= 276
Beta 2= 662
4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
5/3/14 ~ D&C
FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL
Animals Interacting with Snow
IVF #1: ER 1/23/13- 4 eggs retrieved, 3 eggs fertilized; ET with 1 embryo 1/28/13 2 frosties beta #1 2/5 was 4.8- beta #2 2/7 3.5; BFN
FET #1- transferred one beautiful 4AA embie. Praying this is my take home baby. Beta 5/7/13- BFFN!!!
IVF #2: ER 7/17/13: 6R/3F- transferred 1 blast and 1 10 cell embryo 5dt. Beta hell. #1 2.5, #2 2.2- BFFFN! REALLY?
IVF #3: ER 12/1 and only 2 retrieved. 1 fertilized with ICSI. Was planning on transferring one fresh and one frozen....fresh was only 14 cells at day 5...CANCELLED and devastated due to 5cm blood filled cyst in ovary and blood in uterus.
IVF #4: Antagonist protocol with endometrial scratch day one of stims. ER 4/21: 6R/4M/3F- transferred 2 beautiful blasts (5dt) and one was hatching! No frosties but hoping we won't need it! Beta 5/4/14- 444(8dp5dt), Beta #2 10dp5dt 1002! THIS HAS GOT TO BE IT!!!!!!!!!! First US 5/15 we saw two of the most beautiful gestational and yolk sacs I have ever seen!
****FINALLY PREGNANT WITH DI/DI TWINS!!!!!!!
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Me 28 DH 30
After 4+ years TTC
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38
Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
TTC since 2008
Dh:34, no issues. Me:31, Endo, slightly hypothyroid, deformed ovary, paracentric inversion.
4 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, HcG, Crinone +TI cycles= all BFN
Lap in 2012 to remove large unresolving cyst discovered endo and double lobed ovary.
6 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, HcG, Crinone IUI cycles= All BFN,
1st IVF w/ICSI- June '13 Antagonist: Gonal-F, Menopur, Ganirelix, HcG, Estradiol, Crinone= 7 retrieved, 4 mature, 1 unfertilized, 2 abnormally fertilized, 1 normally fertilized. 2DT of only embryo and our miracle BFP.
Our beloved baby boy was born sleeping Oct. 13, 2013 due to pROM/IC/Uterine infection.
2nd IVF w/ICSI- Feb. '14 EPP/lupron/antagonist: Estrace, lupron, HGH, Gonal-F, Menopur, HcG, PIO, lovenox, doxy/dex.=21 retrieved, 16 mature, 15 fertilized!! 5dt of 1 blast/ 6 frozen. BFP! Beta 1 9dp5dt:83.9 Beta 2: 11dp5dt: 145.2 Beta 3 14dp5dt: 497 Please be our sticky rainbow baby!
((hugs)) I am so sorry you had to hear something like that from a "friend"
I just don't have words, I would have probably punched the person who said that, friend or not.
Pretty much everyone above said what I would have.
Me: 34, DH: 32
TTC Since September 2012
Dx-PCOS, Anovulation, highly irregular cycles
March 2013 Comid 50 mg+ TI #1: BFN
April 2013 Clomid mg + TI #2: BFN
IVM#1 Aug 2012: BFN
20 FEB 2014: CP
IUI #1 Clomid 100mg 24 FEB 2014: BFN
IUI #2 Clomid 100mg 21 MAR 2014: BFN
IUI#3 Follistim & trigger 21 May 2014: BFN
IVF #1 Follistim & Menopur: 14R, 9M, 7F, transfered 2 day 3 8 cell embies
Beta #1: 7/30: 41 Beta #2 8/1: 96 Beta #3 8/4: 796 EDD:4/9/15
All Welcome
Retrieval 9/11/2013 - 31 eggs, 17 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen
That is terrible. Your friend would think I am crazy then because I am going to a candle lighting ceremony tomorrow night and lighting a candle for my "bunch of cells."
I have went to a miscarriage support group (with my sister who had a blighted ovum a few years ago) and most of the women there had losses at 17+ weeks. However none of them "judge" the women that had earlier losses. To the group a loss is a loss, whether it is at 4 weeks and 3 days like my c/p or if it is a still born like a few of the women in the group.
TTC #1 since August 2011
My Blog
September 2012: Start IF testing
DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA
October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos
November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues. Converted to freeze all due to lining issues. 2 blasts frozen on day 6!
January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues
April 2015: FET #2.1
PAIF/SAIF Welcome!
I completely agree with you about losses being different. I lost my dad 6 years ago and that pain was different than this pain. I would never compare the losses or anyone's loss. Additionally, we all experience grief differently, so who is to say what is right or wrong? Sadly these have been very close friends of mine and DH for many years; closer than our actual families.... So they were the last people I expected this from and I'm devastated over this now too. I don't know if it can be fixed.
DX: Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant
DH: 34
MFI due to Testicular Cancer
Married March 2012
IVF w/ICSI #1
10 little polar bears
FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN
FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
Beta 1= 276
Beta 2= 662
4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
5/3/14 ~ D&C
FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
Fur Children: Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y
January 2015 Siggy Challenge TTCAL
Animals Interacting with Snow
WHAT THE F??????
That "friend" sounds like a serious bitch that you don't need in your life!
It is absolutely a loss! When I had my first IVF and my 5 embryos didn't even make it to transfer, that was a LOSS.
Your friend needs a smack in the face.
***hugs****
**Siggy/Ticker Warning**
TTC #1 since May 2012
May 2013: First R.E. appointment
DH: SA is good
May 2013: CD3 Blood work-normal
June 2013: Hsg-Right tube blocked
July 26, 2013: Starting Follistim for IVF #1
August 2013: IVF #1 Cancelled- Abnormal embryos
October/November 2013: IVF #2 w/ICSI
November 8, 2013: Transferred two early blasts (no frosties)
November 18, 2013: First EVER BFP!
Beta#1: 91 Beta#2: 288
1st U/S- 5w2d Saw yolk sac!
3rd U/S- 7w4d HB of 157bpm!
TEAM BLUE!
http://movingtolight.blogspot.com/
6 rounds of clomid = no luck
IVF w/ ICSI & AZH #1 - Jan/2011 = ET cancelled OHSS
FET #1 & #2 - March/2011 & June/2011 = Chemical Preg.
IVF w/ Half ICSI #2 New RE - May/2012 = BFN!
May '12 - Sep '13 - Took A Break
Dec '13 IVF w/ Half ICSI #3!!!!! Switched RE
Protocol - Lupron trigger/Follistim/Ganirelix/Estrace/Vivelle/Crinone
6/27/14 - Emergency C/S @ 30w2d - Baby A 2lb 14oz, Baby B 2lb 11 oz