Crib training starts tonight. It sucks!

Jessjames210 · December 2013

We had LO two month checkup today and the doctor told us we should get her in her crib. I guess the swing in the living room isn't acceptable.:( anyways, we are trying tonight, she keeps waking up after about 10 minutes.

bkeane619 · December 2013

Are u using any kind of white noise?

elllaf · December 2013

Why did your doc say that?

Jalee85 · December 2013

I thought it was recommended to have child sleep in the same room as the parent. For at least the first 6 months.

Slap8out · December 2013

We did that last night, lasted 5 minutes..... Rocked her back to sleep and put her back in her swing/chair. We started with naps during the day, she lasts between 45 mins and 2 hours. Will keep trying naps for a couple more days, then do nights again.

Mama2be12345 · December 2013

Jalee85 said:
I thought it was recommended to have child sleep in the same room as the parent. For at least the first 6 months.

This. And if LO likes the incline of the swing could you try the RNP in your room to ease the transition? I know right now there's no way LO would sleep in her crib at night and I'm okay with that. We are gradually working towards naps in the crib and she's almost 7 weeks old.

Jalee85 · December 2013

I need to start working on naps in the crib too. Problem is since LO has been STTN she takes very few naps and they do not last long.

scamberlous3000 · December 2013

Ugh. Not looking forward to this at all

bkeane619 · December 2013

I don't really get the whole 6 month thing. I have a video monitor and motion sensor and she is in crib. I think that's safer than keeping her in the PnP where the only monitoring is me getting up to check and see if she's breathing.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

Oh yes, we have a few white noise things and she just got the Musical soother aquarium for Hanukkah tonight. She's been fixated on that and falls asleep but then wakes up. We've also had her in our room but she's such a loud sleeper she keeps us up all night. I go back to work in January and i would really like to have her in her crib. So we've has to go in there 4 times, we started at 9:30 so it's going on an hour and a half. I told my husband I'm giving it two hours then she's back in the swing!

Jalee85 · December 2013

bkeane619 said:
I don't really get the whole 6 month thing. I have a video monitor and motion sensor and she is in crib. I think that's safer than keeping her in the PnP where the only monitoring is me getting up to check and see if she's breathing.

Motion sensor definitely helps, but not everyone has that. When a dr makes a recommendation it is pretty generalized.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

We are not letting her cry it out. We are giving her 5 mins of crying if that and then going in to talk, rub and calm her.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

I've been doing naps in her crib for the past week but she's not a napper. She takes cat naps but I get in her in there as soon as ahw starts cat napping.

elllaf · December 2013

@bkeane619 It's speculated that sids is linked to the inability to self arouse from sleep. Being in the same room as parents (instead of a silent room alone) and hearing them breathing, moving etc. helps them to regulate their breathing and keep from drifting into too deep of sleep.
Or so I've heard..

sooner1981 · December 2013

Maybe the pediatrician recommended sleeping in a crib because sleeping in a swing is not a safe sleep position, especially overnight? I am sure that a crib or pack n play in the parents room is ideal. But any safe sleep surface beats a swing, for safety purposes.

Palereadhead · December 2013

elllaf said:

It's speculated that sids is linked to the inability to self arouse from sleep. Being in the same room as parents (instead of a silent room alone) and hearing them breathing, moving etc. helps them to ----->regulate their breathing and keep from drifting into too deep of sleep. Or so I've heard..

I'd think regulated breathing would Promote deep sleep for baby... >.>

Jessjames210 · December 2013

Well we tried until 11:30 so for two hours and she kept waking up. I gave in so she's back in the swing. I'll give it another go tonight. Hopefully if I keep trying it'll just "click" and she'll like it.

Jalee85 · December 2013

If you haven't already, try putting a heating pad down to hear up the mattress before you lay her in it next time. Just make sure you remove it before you lay her down.

MangoMama82 · December 2013

Swaddle sleep sacks got our LO in the crib

germanpickle · December 2013

Building on the others, I think he was just concerned about the swing (at least I hope). Please learn that doctors make medical decisions and give medical advice. *You* make parenting decisions. If you can keep that in mind, your stress level will be lower as you trust yourself in your parenting, taking into account the advice others offer you (wether you ask for it or not).

StefMurph · December 2013

Try making the crib feel smaller by using rolled up blankets under the sheet. Also, she's used to sleeping upright rather than flat so consider elevating one end of the mattress with a wedge made for that or something under the matress. The heating pad is a good idea.

Painterlady · December 2013

Screw the doc...if mine said that I'd be looking for another one. As long as your LO is safe, there's no reason that they have to be in a crib. Stupid advice from your doc, sorry.

baby101010 · December 2013

Can u try pack n play In your room? Or something like that?

Jessjames210 · December 2013

We had her in the crib for 2 hours last night but ended up putting her in her swing. She kept waking herself up in the crib, we'd go in there and run and talk to her until she was sleeping but she's wake right back up. I think she really just hates laying flat on her back. She'll sleep in the rock and play which let's her sleep in an incline but flat on her back isn't working. Also, she has mild reflux so when I lay her in the crib after eating she spits up but she doesn't do that in her rock n play or swing.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

We've tried her in our room but she's such a loud sleeper that we wake up and then I lay there a night thinking she's going to wake, it's not good for either if us. She makes crazy noises in her sleep.

SnoopyLuv · December 2013

Jessjames210 said:

We had her in the crib for 2 hours last night but ended up putting her in her swing. She kept waking herself up in the crib, we'd go in there and run and talk to her until she was sleeping but she's wake right back up. I think she really just hates laying flat on her back. She'll sleep in the rock and play which let's her sleep in an incline but flat on her back isn't working. Also, she has mild reflux so when I lay her in the crib after eating she spits up but she doesn't do that in her rock n play or swing.

So then why are your torturing her by laying her down? And CIO for 5 minutes is not cool either. Put the RnP in another room, or leave her in the swing and don't turn it on. Many pedis have told women over the years to let LOs sleep in swings, car seats, etc because of reflux. It's not a dire situation that needs fixing ASAP.

Mae208 · December 2013

SnoopyLuv said:

Jessjames210 said:

We had her in the crib for 2 hours last night but ended up putting her in her swing. She kept waking herself up in the crib, we'd go in there and run and talk to her until she was sleeping but she's wake right back up. I think she really just hates laying flat on her back. She'll sleep in the rock and play which let's her sleep in an incline but flat on her back isn't working. Also, she has mild reflux so when I lay her in the crib after eating she spits up but she doesn't do that in her rock n play or swing.

So then why are your torturing her by laying her down? And CIO for 5 minutes is not cool either. Put the RnP in another room, or leave her in the swing and don't turn it on. Many pedis have told women over the years to let LOs sleep in swings, car seats, etc because of reflux. It's not a dire situation that needs fixing ASAP.

Yep, this. It's not really important for them to be in the crib at this point and she obviously doesn't like it. And really, letting a newborn cry it out for 5 minutes is pointless.

sooner1981 · December 2013

Mae208 said:

SnoopyLuv said:

Jessjames210 said:

We had her in the crib for 2 hours last night but ended up putting her in her swing. She kept waking herself up in the crib, we'd go in there and run and talk to her until she was sleeping but she's wake right back up. I think she really just hates laying flat on her back. She'll sleep in the rock and play which let's her sleep in an incline but flat on her back isn't working. Also, she has mild reflux so when I lay her in the crib after eating she spits up but she doesn't do that in her rock n play or swing.

So then why are your torturing her by laying her down? And CIO for 5 minutes is not cool either. Put the RnP in another room, or leave her in the swing and don't turn it on. Many pedis have told women over the years to let LOs sleep in swings, car seats, etc because of reflux. It's not a dire situation that needs fixing ASAP.

Yep, this. It's not really important for them to be in the crib at this point and she obviously doesn't like it. And really, letting a newborn cry it out for 5 minutes is pointless.

It really isn't safe for your little one to sleep in either a swing or car seat when you are not actively supervising.

Although many pediatricians also do not recommend rock n plays for overnight sleep due to the increased SIDS risk, I have actually heard some pediatricians recmmend them for reflux babies (the aap absolutely does not recommend sleeping in swings/car seats).

Maybe elevate the crib mattress from underneath the mattress? That is what we do and it is really helpful. Also, maybe try Zantac if the reflux is as severe as you indicate?

Jessjames210 · December 2013

In only doing it because the pedi told us she won't get the rest she needs while in those places.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

I'll try her In the rock n play in her room tonight, the doctor made it sound really important to have her in her crib, that's the only reason we are doing this. She also said at this point (9weeks) she needs to start learning how to put herself to sleep, now that I'm hearing conflicting things from everyone I'm questioning letting her cry for 5 mins.

Gwyneddlesliegrace · December 2013

I think you need a new doctor.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

I took your advice and last night was more successful. I've moved her RnP in her crib (yes it's in her crib) she slept there for a 3 hour strech (which was much less than when she sleeps in her swing, she usually sleeps 4-6 hours in the swing) but that's a start. After her 1am feeding she for so upset when I put her back in there so after an hour of rocking and trying to get her in there I gave in and put her back on the swing where she slept for 5hours. I just fed her again and tried the RnP in the crib yet again and she went down with no problem. It's progress and I'm pretty sure her pediatrician would be happy to hear she's at least in something that's not rocking her all night long and in her nursery.

hlb622 · December 2013

Jessjames210 said:
I took your advice and last night was more successful. I've moved her RnP in her crib (yes it's in her crib) she slept there for a 3 hour strech (which was much less than when she sleeps in her swing, she usually sleeps 4-6 hours in the swing) but that's a start. After her 1am feeding she for so upset when I put her back in there so after an hour of rocking and trying to get her in there I gave in and put her back on the swing where she slept for 5hours. I just fed her again and tried the RnP in the crib yet again and she went down with no problem. It's progress and I'm pretty sure her pediatrician would be happy to hear she's at least in something that's not rocking her all night long and in her nursery.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just curious how this works. I'm imagining a princess and the pea situation...

:-/

sleepy33 · December 2013

hlb622 said:

Jessjames210 said:
I took your advice and last night was more successful. I've moved her RnP in her crib (yes it's in her crib) she slept there for a 3 hour strech (which was much less than when she sleeps in her swing, she usually sleeps 4-6 hours in the swing) but that's a start. After her 1am feeding she for so upset when I put her back in there so after an hour of rocking and trying to get her in there I gave in and put her back on the swing where she slept for 5hours. I just fed her again and tried the RnP in the crib yet again and she went down with no problem. It's progress and I'm pretty sure her pediatrician would be happy to hear she's at least in something that's not rocking her all night long and in her nursery.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just curious how this works. I'm imagining a princess and the pea situation...

:-/

Yeah , and how do you rock it when it's in there? I'm so confused. I think I need a pic of this.

SnoopyLuv · December 2013

I've heard of people putting the car seat in the crib, but never a RnP. Please tell me your crib is not on the highest mattress setting.

Jessjames210 · December 2013

The mattress is on its lowest setting so she's completely safe. The mattress is pretty firm so I can rock it. It's not anymore unsafe then her being in a rock and play on the floor. She is buckled in, we got a wombie swaddle blanket so it has legs which allows me to buckle her right in.

SnoopyLuv · December 2013

I just don't understand why you don't put the RnP on the floor. She can't see over the sides so she doesn't know she's in the crib...

yesthisiskim0401 · December 2013

Cat with big eyes gif all over this thread... ridiculous pedi "advice", CIO, RNP in a crib... Yikes.

sleepy33 · December 2013

SnoopyLuv said:

I just don't understand why you don't put the RnP on the floor. She can't see over the sides so she doesn't know she's in the crib...

Exactly what I was thinking. What's the rationale?

sooner1981 · December 2013

sleepy33 said:

SnoopyLuv said:

I just don't understand why you don't put the RnP on the floor. She can't see over the sides so she doesn't know she's in the crib...

Exactly what I was thinking. What's the rationale?

I would feel very uncomfortable putting baby in a rock n play when you aren't in the same room to supervise. And it is definitely not made to be used in a crib...don't understand that at all!

If you have to use a rock n play, at least sleep within earshot, so hopefully you would be able to catch any positional apnea or other apnea episodes that may occur due to the deep sleep that the rock n play can induce.

Your pediatrician would definitely not support this current plan, if that is why you are doing it. It might be a tiny bit better than sleeping in the swing, but not much at all...

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