Secondary IF

Switching Dr's.

edited December 2013 in Secondary IF

My husband wants to request a referral to an RE, and at this point, I agree with him. We feel like we've gone as far as we can with our OB... So far she has done all of the blood work on me, 1 blood work test on MH which was for the chromosome one... and I've had the SIS done. It showed polyps which I was supposed to have to removed but because of a suspected loss and the bleeding she was unable to do the surgery.  I'm not getting a game plan or any explanations with her and it feels like wasted time. Every month is "Okay, just keep trying and we'll see where it goes" -_- ughh, isn't that what I've been doing for the last 1.5 year? Obviously its not working. She has said more than once that "Well you have had one child..."  Uhm, yeah I did... It took losing 2 first, and then after her we lost 2, possible 3 more. Im sorry but I cant accept that because we had one all is fine in the world and it's just going to happen again so easily. Am I the only one that thinks your body can change over 6.5 years here? Im scheduled to have a repeat SIS done, if the polyps are still there she wants to reschedule the surgery. If not, (Either way it goes) I assume its going to be more of "Oh just keep trying"... Don't get me wrong, I couldn't ask for a better Dr. as far as attitude, concern, bedside manner... She's been great, I just feel like it's time to move on here... Im so annoyed with this process! So hopefully my OB will agree to the referral and set it up for me. I guess there was no real point to this other than to bring yall up to speed with where im at... We're on a break cycle so I haven't been checking in and what not!

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Re: Switching Dr's.

  • Will your OB give you a recommendation? OR you on your own to find one?



      


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  • Well with our insurance we have to rely on referrals from my PCP... If I go to someone without a referral im 100% OOP.  So hopefully she will just do the referral and save me the trouble.
  • Oh geez... Well I hope that she will.  There is no reason to think she wont is there? 



      


  • Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
  • Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    Hopefully she understands the need for an RE. I totally get the "I don't want to cheat on my doctor" guilt! You just have to do what is best for you :) Have you done any medicated/monitored cycles yet? (Sorry, I feel like I should know! But it's too easy to get confused with everyone's stories/info!)

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

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  • Jen071407 said:
    Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    Hopefully she understands the need for an RE. I totally get the "I don't want to cheat on my doctor" guilt! You just have to do what is best for you :) Have you done any medicated/monitored cycles yet? (Sorry, I feel like I should know! But it's too easy to get confused with everyone's stories/info!)


    Yeah that's exactly how I feel, like im cheating on my Dr. lol... Didn't know there was a term for that! No, we haven't had anything monitored or medicated. It hasn't even been mentioned, and that alone is frustrating... Every month we are told "Okay lets see what happens" ... She said I ovulate late? but didn't go into detail about that, so I have no idea what that means other than the obvious, "Late".

    & no worries girl, I can never remember crap. lol

  • A doctor that listens and is PROACTIVE makes all the difference. Ditch the OB and move on - you'll be glad you did. You need someone with a plan to get you KTFU. OBs deal with fertile mertiles- RE's know that it takes work! :)

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    Me: 27 DH: 33
    Married 6 years
    Conceived DS after 4 years of MFI

    TTC # 2 (not trying,not preventing ever)
    May 2013 - August 2013 Timed Intercourse = BFN
    September 2013 Timed Intercourse, Weekly Acupuncture, Herbs=BFN
    October 2013 Timed Intercourse, Weekly Acupuncture, Herbs, and "warming foods" = BFP
    Beta #1 19, Beta #2 18 Progesterone 4.6 Miscarried 11/9/13
    November 2013 - Benched, waiting for first post-loss AF.
    No longer benched per New RE/OB!
    Jan. 15 2014 - BFP. HCG 3900 - Ectopic :( 
    Jan. 16 2014 Left tube removed and D&C
    March 2, 2014 First AF


  • KC1212 said:
    A doctor that listens and is PROACTIVE makes all the difference. Ditch the OB and move on - you'll be glad you did. You need someone with a plan to get you KTFU. OBs deal with fertile mertiles- RE's know that it takes work! :)
    Couldn't agree more :)
  • CheesyPeasCheesyPeas member
    edited December 2013
    Jen071407 said:
    Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    Hopefully she understands the need for an RE. I totally get the "I don't want to cheat on my doctor" guilt! You just have to do what is best for you :) Have you done any medicated/monitored cycles yet? (Sorry, I feel like I should know! But it's too easy to get confused with everyone's stories/info!)


    Yeah that's exactly how I feel, like im cheating on my Dr. lol... Didn't know there was a term for that! No, we haven't had anything monitored or medicated. It hasn't even been mentioned, and that alone is frustrating... Every month we are told "Okay lets see what happens" ... She said I ovulate late? but didn't go into detail about that, so I have no idea what that means other than the obvious, "Late".

    & no worries girl, I can never remember crap. lol

    I'm in the same boat.  My OB benched me for several months because she didn't think that my body could sustain a pregnancy, and then at my follow up appointment when progesterone didn't do a darn thing for me, she changed her story and said she wanted me to go ahead and try to get pregnant (we secretly had been anyway without success).  She did tell me that Clomid is up next, so that gave me something to "look forward to" (not sure that's the right term given the Clomid horror stories I've heard).  So basically, I'm just trying to say that I understand how frustrating an OB who wants to wait and try can be.

    You have to be your own advocate, so if you feel like it's time to push, I say push, and hopefully your OB will be receptive.

    November 2010 - 10.5 week loss  o:) 
    October 2011 - DS (7)  <3 
    July 2014 - Stillborn DD (24 weeks)  o:) 
    August 2015 - DD (3)  <3 
    April 2018 - 5 week loss o:) 

  • Jen071407 said:
    Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    Hopefully she understands the need for an RE. I totally get the "I don't want to cheat on my doctor" guilt! You just have to do what is best for you :) Have you done any medicated/monitored cycles yet? (Sorry, I feel like I should know! But it's too easy to get confused with everyone's stories/info!)


    Yeah that's exactly how I feel, like im cheating on my Dr. lol... Didn't know there was a term for that! No, we haven't had anything monitored or medicated. It hasn't even been mentioned, and that alone is frustrating... Every month we are told "Okay lets see what happens" ... She said I ovulate late? but didn't go into detail about that, so I have no idea what that means other than the obvious, "Late".

    & no worries girl, I can never remember crap. lol

    I'm in the same boat.  My OB benched me for several months because she didn't think that my body could sustain a pregnancy, and then at my follow up appointment when progesterone didn't do a darn thing for me, she changed her story and said she wanted me to go ahead and try to get pregnant (we secretly had been anyway without success).  She put me on progesterone for a while but stopped short of Clomid.  So basically, I'm just trying to say that I understand how frustrating an OB who wants to wait and try can be.

    You have to be your own advocate, so if you feel like it's time to push, I say push, and hopefully your OB will be receptive.


    Awe girl that really sucks :-/ Im sorry you had to deal with this crap too. We were secretly trying too on our "off" cycles, such rebels we are! lol... In the words of my husband "Fuck that, I got sperm and im using it" ..lol He has a potty mouth. So are you and YH seeking out an RE now also, or still with your OB?
  • Jen071407 said:
    Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    Hopefully she understands the need for an RE. I totally get the "I don't want to cheat on my doctor" guilt! You just have to do what is best for you :) Have you done any medicated/monitored cycles yet? (Sorry, I feel like I should know! But it's too easy to get confused with everyone's stories/info!)


    Yeah that's exactly how I feel, like im cheating on my Dr. lol... Didn't know there was a term for that! No, we haven't had anything monitored or medicated. It hasn't even been mentioned, and that alone is frustrating... Every month we are told "Okay lets see what happens" ... She said I ovulate late? but didn't go into detail about that, so I have no idea what that means other than the obvious, "Late".

    & no worries girl, I can never remember crap. lol

    I'm in the same boat.  My OB benched me for several months because she didn't think that my body could sustain a pregnancy, and then at my follow up appointment when progesterone didn't do a darn thing for me, she changed her story and said she wanted me to go ahead and try to get pregnant (we secretly had been anyway without success).  She put me on progesterone for a while but stopped short of Clomid.  So basically, I'm just trying to say that I understand how frustrating an OB who wants to wait and try can be.

    You have to be your own advocate, so if you feel like it's time to push, I say push, and hopefully your OB will be receptive.


    Awe girl that really sucks :-/ Im sorry you had to deal with this crap too. We were secretly trying too on our "off" cycles, such rebels we are! lol... In the words of my husband "Fuck that, I got sperm and im using it" ..lol He has a potty mouth. So are you and YH seeking out an RE now also, or still with your OB?

    LOL, yeah why let the little men go to waste?  At least give them the opportunity to do their thing!  We're going to stick with our OB for a few more months because she did tell me we would be onward to Clomid if we aren't pregnant by March.  At least it's something.  If my LP is as short this cycle as it was last cycle (a whopping 8 days), I'm going to call back and get an appointment earlier than March.  There's no point in continuing to try unmedicated with an obviously broken body.
    November 2010 - 10.5 week loss  o:) 
    October 2011 - DS (7)  <3 
    July 2014 - Stillborn DD (24 weeks)  o:) 
    August 2015 - DD (3)  <3 
    April 2018 - 5 week loss o:) 

  • Yea, I'm not quoting all of that but my OB wouldn't treat me for anything without knowing what the issue was (which none was ever found) but I remember when she sent me to the RE she said "I'm not going to throw Clomid at you when I don't think you need it anyway and that is really all I can do. I think you need an IUI, and the RE can help you with that" 


    lol, right? IUI- SHMIUI. I fucking failed at IUI AND IVF. I want to throw that in that bitch's face. I'm just kidding, she's a nice a lady :) 


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • Yea, I'm not quoting all of that but my OB wouldn't treat me for anything without knowing what the issue was (which none was ever found) but I remember when she sent me to the RE she said "I'm not going to throw Clomid at you when I don't think you need it anyway and that is really all I can do. I think you need an IUI, and the RE can help you with that" 


    lol, right? IUI- SHMIUI. I fucking failed at IUI AND IVF. I want to throw that in that bitch's face. I'm just kidding, she's a nice a lady :) 

    HUGS!!!  I don't even know what my options would be? I can get pregnant (it takes while) and then I MC.. I don't know what they can do for that, other than "heres a pain pill, better luck next time"... GRRR FUCK 2IF -__-
  • Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    I felt the same way! I just had a yearly checkup with my OB and I guiltily mentioned we started seeing an RE (we didn't need a referral) and he said that was probably the next step and he's glad and hopes to see me soon (pregnant). I'm sure she'll understand and realize that she can't give you all the specialized care an RE can. :)
    I hope I have the same outcome when I break up with my OB, Good lord im nervous lol
  • Jen071407 said:
    Not that im aware of, I just haven't had to request a referral out before so im not sure what to expect... & I almost feel like im going offend her? lol.
    Hopefully she understands the need for an RE. I totally get the "I don't want to cheat on my doctor" guilt! You just have to do what is best for you :) Have you done any medicated/monitored cycles yet? (Sorry, I feel like I should know! But it's too easy to get confused with everyone's stories/info!)


    Yeah that's exactly how I feel, like im cheating on my Dr. lol... Didn't know there was a term for that! No, we haven't had anything monitored or medicated. It hasn't even been mentioned, and that alone is frustrating... Every month we are told "Okay lets see what happens" ... She said I ovulate late? but didn't go into detail about that, so I have no idea what that means other than the obvious, "Late".

    & no worries girl, I can never remember crap. lol

    I'm in the same boat.  My OB benched me for several months because she didn't think that my body could sustain a pregnancy, and then at my follow up appointment when progesterone didn't do a darn thing for me, she changed her story and said she wanted me to go ahead and try to get pregnant (we secretly had been anyway without success).  She put me on progesterone for a while but stopped short of Clomid.  So basically, I'm just trying to say that I understand how frustrating an OB who wants to wait and try can be.

    You have to be your own advocate, so if you feel like it's time to push, I say push, and hopefully your OB will be receptive.


    Awe girl that really sucks :-/ Im sorry you had to deal with this crap too. We were secretly trying too on our "off" cycles, such rebels we are! lol... In the words of my husband "Fuck that, I got sperm and im using it" ..lol He has a potty mouth. So are you and YH seeking out an RE now also, or still with your OB?

    LOL, yeah why let the little men go to waste?  At least give them the opportunity to do their thing!  We're going to stick with our OB for a few more months because she did tell me we would be onward to Clomid if we aren't pregnant by March.  At least it's something.  If my LP is as short this cycle as it was last cycle (a whopping 8 days), I'm going to call back and get an appointment earlier than March.  There's no point in continuing to try unmedicated with an obviously broken body.

    Exactly!
  • KC1212 said: A doctor that listens and is PROACTIVE makes all the difference. Ditch the OB and move on - you'll be glad you did. You need someone with a plan to get you KTFU. OBs deal with fertile mertiles- RE's know that it takes work! :) I think @KC1212 is spot on here! OBs are great, but I think you'll feel like your doing more with an RE! 

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

     image

  • You know what you do.... You march into her office, say i need a referral throw a POTATO at her, BOOM done referral in hand.  Make sure you carve 2IF in the POTATO so she knows you mean business... Anyone else? I suggest you do the same, or if your RE is being a douche, a nurse, or anyone... You tell them don't you fuck with us 2IF women.  



      


  • You know what you do.... You march into her office, say i need a referral throw a POTATO at her, BOOM done referral in hand.  Make sure you carve 2IF in the POTATO so she knows you mean business... Anyone else? I suggest you do the same, or if your RE is being a douche, a nurse, or anyone... You tell them don't you fuck with us 2IF women.  

    I just spit sweet tea all over my fucking computer LMFAO!!!!

    If only my OB's office wasn't at the Naval Hospital on base, lmao... Will yall come get me out of the brig?  

  • You know what you do.... You march into her office, say i need a referral throw a POTATO at her, BOOM done referral in hand.  Make sure you carve 2IF in the POTATO so she knows you mean business... Anyone else? I suggest you do the same, or if your RE is being a douche, a nurse, or anyone... You tell them don't you fuck with us 2IF women.  

    I just spit sweet tea all over my fucking computer LMFAO!!!!

    If only my OB's office wasn't at the Naval Hospital on base, lmao... Will yall come get me out of the brig?  


    I'll get'cha! They don't want to mess with freaky! B-)



      


  • You know what you do.... You march into her office, say i need a referral throw a POTATO at her, BOOM done referral in hand.  Make sure you carve 2IF in the POTATO so she knows you mean business... Anyone else? I suggest you do the same, or if your RE is being a douche, a nurse, or anyone... You tell them don't you fuck with us 2IF women.  

    I just spit sweet tea all over my fucking computer LMFAO!!!!

    If only my OB's office wasn't at the Naval Hospital on base, lmao... Will yall come get me out of the brig?  


    I'll get'cha! They don't want to mess with freaky! B-)

    8->  ahhh my night in shinning armor <3
  • You know what you do.... You march into her office, say i need a referral throw a POTATO at her, BOOM done referral in hand.  Make sure you carve 2IF in the POTATO so she knows you mean business... Anyone else? I suggest you do the same, or if your RE is being a douche, a nurse, or anyone... You tell them don't you fuck with us 2IF women.  

    I just spit sweet tea all over my fucking computer LMFAO!!!!

    If only my OB's office wasn't at the Naval Hospital on base, lmao... Will yall come get me out of the brig?  


    I'll get'cha! They don't want to mess with freaky! B-)

    8->  ahhh my night in shinning armor <3

    =))

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

     image

  • Jen071407Jen071407 member
    edited December 2013
    Side note, I always assumed this guy  =)) is rolling on the floor laughing. But is he throwing a tantrum instead? Can't decide which I prefer...

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

     image

  • Jen071407 said:
    Side note, I always assumed this guy  =)) is rolling on the floor laughing. But is he throwing a tantrum instead? Can't decide which I prefer...
    I thought he was laughing. 



      


  • Jen071407 said:
    Side note, I always assumed this guy  =)) is rolling on the floor laughing. But is he throwing a tantrum instead? Can't decide which I prefer...
    I thought he was laughing. 

    I thought he was having a seizure?

    It's hard to take us seriously with that potato's face at the bottom of our conversations lmao... the look on its face is like he is disgusted with us! lol cracks me up every time.

  • Jen071407 said:
    Side note, I always assumed this guy  =)) is rolling on the floor laughing. But is he throwing a tantrum instead? Can't decide which I prefer...
    I thought he was laughing. 

    I thought he was having a seizure?

    It's hard to take us seriously with that potato's face at the bottom of our conversations lmao... the look on its face is like he is disgusted with us! lol cracks me up every time.

    He's like WTF, you're infertile? Get your shit together and get KTFU already. (Because clearly we all have control over that!) I love him.

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

     image

  • Omg. He is totally laughing.  >-)


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



    BabyFruit Ticker
  • Jen071407 said:
    Jen071407 said:
    Side note, I always assumed this guy  =)) is rolling on the floor laughing. But is he throwing a tantrum instead? Can't decide which I prefer...
    I thought he was laughing. 

    I thought he was having a seizure?

    It's hard to take us seriously with that potato's face at the bottom of our conversations lmao... the look on its face is like he is disgusted with us! lol cracks me up every time.

    He's like WTF, you're infertile? Get your shit together and get KTFU already. (Because clearly we all have control over that!) I love him.


    Lmao, you're so right.

    Im sorry Potato im trying... LOL

    all hail potato !!!! all hail potato !!!!!     ^:)^  
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