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Smart mouthed comment

I work in a really, really old, male-dominated industry. In fact, one of the jobs I did, I was the only female in America doing it in my industry. So I put up with a lot of crap just being female. Then I had a baby. Tons of rumors I would quit or ask to go part-time. I didn't. I still kick butt, and now that I'm back to being a lawyer (there are other girl lawyers in my company, thank God!), I've even been promoted post-baby. So just announced I'm having Baby #2. When I got the inevitable question about coming back, my mouth opened, and to my and everyone else's shock, what came out was, "I talked to my OB, and he's assured me that even with a second delivery, he can leave my ambition intact when he pulls out the baby. It's actually quite common these days." Luckily everyone laughed, but probably not my best moment! I would like to blame hormones, but I think it was just me being myself!

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  • Awesome response! Sometimes people just need to hear the obvious.
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  • That's a funny comeback but I hope you don't think that those that converted to SAHM or went part time (like me personally) lost ambition the minute they gave birth. That's very insulting to women...
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  • Nope. I really did say it. Friends at work and I had joked about it for years. Where I work, there is no part time, and the mere rumor that you might quit has derailed a lot of careers at my company. I think what set me off was that it was asked at a management meeting, in a room full of men, no women, where every man there is married to a woman who stays home. (Only one has kids at home, so they aren't SAHMs.)

    There were 2 female attorneys in another dept in the past year who asked to go part time. Both told no. One quit, one has been labelled as "not serious or ambitious", and both are held up as proof that all women who get pregnant are an automatic flight risk. I love my company, but it is old school. And the women who work there change it very slowly and methodically. Luckily I've been there long enough that I get a pass on this one, but I shouldn't have said it. Posting here was actually kind of a confession for me.

    And I don't mean to start a mommy war. Every family is different, and there are as many variables to making the decision to stay home as there are families. The gutsiest, most ambitious broad I know is a SAHM. She will return to work when and if it's right for her family. Giving up her career to care for her child was incredibly brave.
  • MommyAtty said:

    Nope. I really did say it. Friends at work and I had joked about it for years. Where I work, there is no part time, and the mere rumor that you might quit has derailed a lot of careers at my company. I think what set me off was that it was asked at a management meeting, in a room full of men, no women, where every man there is married to a woman who stays home. (Only one has kids at home, so they aren't SAHMs.)

    There were 2 female attorneys in another dept in the past year who asked to go part time. Both told no. One quit, one has been labelled as "not serious or ambitious", and both are held up as proof that all women who get pregnant are an automatic flight risk. I love my company, but it is old school. And the women who work there change it very slowly and methodically. Luckily I've been there long enough that I get a pass on this one, but I shouldn't have said it. Posting here was actually kind of a confession for me.

    And I don't mean to start a mommy war. Every family is different, and there are as many variables to making the decision to stay home as there are families. The gutsiest, most ambitious broad I know is a SAHM. She will return to work when and if it's right for her family. Giving up her career to care for her child was incredibly brave.

    I'm just really curious what particular job you did that no other woman had done or at least what area of law you specialize in.
  • Best response ever!!!  I'm dedicating my glass of wine tonight to you!  :-)
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  • That's a funny comeback but I hope you don't think that those that converted to SAHM or went part time (like me personally) lost ambition the minute they gave birth. That's very insulting to women...
    As someone who went part time, if a female co-worker of mine said this, I would not be able to throw enough side eye. And I would assume she was seriously overcompensating.  If you are happy coming back, a sincere "I'm really excited to come back" usually does the trick.
    While I can see where you two are coming from, women should not have to constantly answer questions about whether they are returning to work. They shouldn't have to say "I'm really excited to come back" 47 times a day. Frankly, I wish I had been less polite. If I said some of the things my older, male CW's said to me to when they returned from personal or medical leave, I would land in HR. And no one asked my H if he planned to work. I don't think OP meant to insult SAHMS or women who work PT as much as she wanted her CWers to hear "hey! I'm not changing, I'm still the same as I ever was. Don't start doubting me now."

    Meh, OP didn't in any way insult SAHMs or part-time workers.  She just said that's not what she wants.  That is fine.  The comments the men in her office made were extremely inappropriate and it still baffles me that women can be treated this way in the workplace. 

    Imagine if I mentioned a male coworker's health issue and asked if he was coming back to work. I would be screwed.  Mentioning pregnancy in such a way in the same thing, in my opinion. 

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  • I I am a lawyer who works full time post bab0y.  That being said, I would probably have found your comment a little annoying.  I'm also an older mom (36) so perhaps I have a slightly different perspective due to my years on.

    To me, the greater issue in our field of work is the complete and utter disregard for work/life balance and flexibility.  I don't know what your hours are like, but mine are rough. 

  • Love this!! Sounds like something I would do :)
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  • PERFECT response!
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